2018 CONCACAF Champions League [Multiple R]

Discussion in 'CONCACAF Champions Cup' started by Paul Calixte, Dec 22, 2017.

  1. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Who are you trying to impress by writing in Spanish? Is that some how supposed to show me you are Mexican? And "acomplejado"? You live your life based on emotions and feelings but that is not how the world works. Mexican is a NATIONALITY not a race. You can claim you are Mexican all you want but unless you have proof you were either born there, became by naturalizing or other than you are just more than likely a descendant of Mexicans, not a Mexican per se. It doesn't make you one unless you go through the process. That is the law and law doesn't change because of your feelings or emotions or because of what you think you are. When I travel to the interior of Mexico I need to show proof of my US Passport and permit given by Mexican Immigration to travel in Mexico. A real Mexican all he needs is his voter registration card which you can get with your Mexican birth certificate. Mexican immigration doesn't care either about what you "think" you are or how you look or if your "name is Mexican". (that's assuming Mexican immigration does their job and doesn't ask for the usual "mordida" just to let you pass). No proof, no go. So keep on being driven by emotion and feelings but that is not how the real world operates.
     
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  2. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Dang. Tigres just broke MLS undefeated streak in like the last minute. Makes me a bit sad.

    I kid, I kid! The LMX champions are out! Xolos are out! Bring on Chivas!
     
  3. asoc

    asoc Member+

    Sep 28, 2007
    Tacoma
    No, Seattle fielded pretty close to 100% lineup across both legs.

    They only lost to Santos Laguna 2-1 in the next round though.
     
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  4. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    lmao, you're Mexican, full stop. No need to add anything, everyone will see you as just Mexican, because you are. Trump would call you a ******** to your face.

    eddygee needs to reveal what he is, btw.
     
  5. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Ah, with Tigres out, this is another year for Club America. Anyway, good for MLS to have (maybe) 3 teams in semifinals
     
  6. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Ignorance is bliss. Can't argue with stupid. Mexican is a nationality. There is no such thing as "looking" Mexican because Mexicans are very diverse. Saying someone looks Mexican is just ignorant but what can I say, we have ignorant people everywhere. But whatever floats your boat, man. I don't want you too emotional. I'll just stick to facts you stick to your feelings.
     
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  7. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Toronto really surprised me. I really thought Tigres was going to pass to the next round. But the way America is playing I think they have enough to beat Toronto.
     
  8. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    Needed Tigres to commit a stupid red card offense to do it though. Could chalk that up to arrogance or inexperience. Tigres had them mostly outplayed til that point. The opening ties were definitely different this year and roster depth showed in addition to confidence which was not lacking and even apparent with how they played at home.

    Even before last night, I was a bit miffed by our MLS fans who said that they were worried bc MLS home sides needed a bigger cushion to go thru. If you play expecting to get pummeled away, then you're not good enough yet. You have got to be able to get necessary results away. If you want to win these types of tournaments then you cannot expect to not compete away and only go thru if you win big at home. That puts too much pressure on the home leg and that's possibly why MLS began to struggle at home in the past few seasons. This year, all three sides have been loose, relaxed and played their own game in both legs. Nothing gimmicky, no reliance on cards or last minute miracles, just good solid and confident football. Smart tactics and managing results. That's how you win. You don't expect to get drilled away. Just get results and the rest follows.
     
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  9. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    Yes. Let's not cede who is and who isn't American to ppl who have no sense of decency. We'll win in the end if we don't start playing that game too.
     
  10. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There you have it, the semifinals are set (first team listed hosts second leg):

    New York Red Bulls (USA) vs. Chivas de Guadalajara (MEX)
    Club América (MEX) vs. Toronto FC (CAN)
     
  11. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    I never said he wasn't American, he is by blood first and foremost. Nor did I say he looks Mexican either, he misunderstood.

    Just pointing out that colloquially, people are labeled by nationality and race, it's not a big deal. Found it funny that he needed to differentiate, which isn't done generally unless someone has identity issues, which he clearly has.

    No big whup, back to CCLFever. If Giovinco's diving gets rewarded again, we may have a problem.
     
  12. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Identity issues? Lol. The one that has an issue here is you. You are the one asking if I was Mexican, not me, as if it makes a difference. But I know why you asked. You asked because people like you think because you are "Mexican" or of Mexican descent, you MUST buy in to the same rhetoric of everyone else. The rhetoric of the hate America, white people don't like us, this was our land that white men stole. And God forbid I say anything bad about Mexico and don't support anything Mexican because people that drink the same kool-aid as you will label me as a "nopalero", "coconut", "te crees gringo" etc. It never fails. The people that cry racism and discrimination are the ones discriminating and being racist. I've seen this BS many times. I mean that's why you sent me a PM a while back saying for me to be in the Mexican forum because I am Mexican (Isn't that Racist or is different because the only racist are white people?), all this BS that you said that this is "our land", that white men are evil and my personal favorite which I LMAOL was the "Aztec blood" (is there such a thing LOL). Worry about yourself, of what you do and don't do. Don't worry what other people do. This is a soccer forum not a place to be looking out which members should be where and who should not. You believe you are Mexican, well more power to you. For all I care you can claim to be a woman in a man's body and I don't care. And I didn't need to diffirintiate, I say it from personal experience in Mexico.
     
  13. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Is the away goal rule still in effect in the final @Paul Calixte ?
     
  14. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yup - same tiebreakers throughout the tournament. Away goals, then straight to penalties (see: the CONCACAF League Final last fall).
     
  15. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    @jared9999
    Did some of your posts disappear? It says you have 10,809. I thought I saw you with over 13,000.
     
  16. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I guess so. Didn't know my tally
     
  17. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    I think the CONCACAF Rivalry thread is deleted from the archive, that's why posts were reduced
    Nope.
    Wtf. lol. Mexicans love America. A lot of whites like us, but not all. The last part was right, I'll give you that.
    lmao. Aigh **********, do you, but you'd be comfortable in the MX section since you are Mexican. Go post there if you want.

    You do look weird with that avi since you have the cactus right on the forehead, but whatevs.

    Such a long wait till CCLFever resumes...
     
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  18. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    What looks weird and homo is someone else telling me what I should do and how I should think. Nah, you make a better fit in the Chicano forum where everyone can hang around and cry that white people don't like you LOL, and that this country is so racist. Man, worry about your own damn self or if you have kids worry about your kids not what another grown ass man does. That just sounds full blown homo telling someone else how to think or live because you pretend to care about someone you don't even know.

    And you just proved my point with that comment of cactus. Your narrative, as the brown shirt Mexican KKK cult, is all the same. You can't support or be pro America because here come the sheep getting all racist calling you names because you are not pro Mexican. Which that was the point in asking "aren't you Mexican?" as if I need to follow, support and drink the same brown power Kool-aid as you do. The funny part is that is mainly the Chicanos/Pochos bringing all that shit up because Pochos think they are considered by real Mexicans as Mexicans Lol.
     
  19. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That would explain it.
     
  20. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico

    So that explains my 3,000 posts gone! JAJA
     
  21. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #96 EvanJ, Apr 3, 2018
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2018
    Toronto FC leads 3-1. Imagine a final between clubs from two countries other than Mexico. The 11 CONCACAF Champions Cups that happened in were:

    2000: Los Angeles defeated Olimpia of Honduras in a 1 game Final.
    1995: Saprissa of Costa Rica won a final group of 4 without any Mexican clubs. Municipal of Guatemala was second.
    1988: Olimpia of Honduras won both legs against Defense Force of Trinidad and Tobago.
    1986: Alajuelense of Costa Rica got a win and a draw against Transvaal of Suriname.
    1985: Defense Force won the aggregate 2-1 over Olimpia with each club winning at home.
    1981: Transvaal got a win and a draw against Atletico Marte of El Salvador.
    1979: FAS of El Salvador got a win and a draw against Jong Colombia of Curacao.
    1976: Aguila of El Salvador won both legs against Robinhood of Suriname.
    1974: Municipal won both legs against Transvaal.
    1972: Olimpia got a win and a draw against Robinhood.
    1967: Alianza of El Salvador got 2 wins and Jong Colombia got 1 win, with all games won at home. Alianza won the second leg, and the aggregate wasn't tied, but Wikipedia says it was replayed at Alianza without giving a reason.

    There have been 52 CONCACAF Champions Cups or Champions leagues before this one. My list includes none of the last 16, 2 of the last 28, and 9 of the first 24. There were seasons where every club other than the champion withdrew and once three clubs were tri-champions.

    Edit: It ended 3-1. Here were the first leg probabilities based on the Intertops odds:

    Toronto FC win: 38.8%
    Draw: 30.4%
    Club America win: 30.9%

    It adds up to 100.1% due to rounding. When the home club is favored by that little, the odds for the aggregate (if they made odds for that) would have favored Club America before the first leg.
     
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  22. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    It also happened in these CCL finals:

    2014-15: Club America beat the Montreal Impact, 5-3, on aggregate

    2010-11: Monterrey beat Real Salt Lake, 3-2, on aggregate

    Your list leaves off the 1998 CONCACAF Champions Cup final which was DC United 1-0 over Toluca.
     
  24. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I believe when EvanJ said "from two countries other than Mexico" he meant that neither country involved was Mexico, i.e. there have been only 11 instances in the CCC and no instances to date in the CCL where a Mexican team wasn't involved in the final. All the other finals in both competitions, including the three you listed, do involve Mexico.
     
  25. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Ah. You are correct. I misread the post. That is completely my fault.

    I can't delete my post any more. Sorry about that.
     

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