Son Heung-min @ Tottenham Hotspur FC 2017-2018 [R]

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  1. killaorca

    killaorca Member+

    AFC Ajax
    May 11, 2010
    Pacific Ocean
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
    Wouldn't say PJS was a key player.
     
  2. TaegukWarrior

    TaegukWarrior Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Miami
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    a bit unfair on Kim Do-Heon. I remember he was rated quite highly by the wba faithful until injuries marred him from the 1st team

    i still laugh thinking about cho won-hee at wigan. that shit came and went before I even got the chance to process that we had another kpa in the pl
     
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  3. batumchange2

    batumchange2 Member+

    South Korea
    May 6, 2015
    kim duhyun wasnt a waterboy either. started all of the preseason matches as a starter and had a good debut, but busted his kneecap few matches later. he was never the same after (even after his return to korea) so who knows what could have happened had he not gotten injured
     
  4. hanul21

    hanul21 Guest

    Those are some fighting words bud.

    Fair point but I'm focusing more on the player's actual contribution to their club. My labeling of him as a Waterboy was just to poke fun but I agree that it is a bit unfair in light of his injury.

    Point is that you wouldn't necessarily put Ko Jong-Soo in memorable KNT players category simply because of what could've been.
     
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  5. nmssis

    nmssis Member+

    May 21, 2011
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC

    score that many times vs Wenger...yer a Key Player in my book :thumbsup:
     
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  6. Deleted Users

    Deleted Users Member+

    Nov 25, 2001
    Lets redefine "failure" because Park Ju-young was the best #9 this country has ever had. I would even say the best #9 AFC ever had (although I must assume that Ali Daei would have a fit). And Park is not even a natural #9. So basically, I think everyone needs to calm down, instead of dropping nonsense of how Kim Du-hyeon, a thoroughly mediocre player, was somehow better than Park Ju-young.
     
  7. The Hyphen

    The Hyphen Member+

    Jun 29, 2014
    This is great for all the people who enjoy living in a bubble.
     
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  8. kennypowers

    kennypowers Member

    Nov 3, 2010
    NYC
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Ki was key player. He was voted player of the year for them, at least for a season.
     
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  9. Kanuck

    Kanuck Member+

    Feb 11, 2005
    La Belle Province
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    sorry but Cho Won-hee is PJY's waterboy.
     
  10. chook90

    chook90 Member+

    South Korea
    Jan 2, 2015
    Al Khor, Qatar
    Club:
    FC Seoul
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Whatever happens to JDW, I'll never forget when I watched him dodge a cross (or perhaps the opposition keeper's fists) on live TV.

    But a nice goal vs. Man City

     
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  11. batumchange2

    batumchange2 Member+

    South Korea
    May 6, 2015
    jumens prime years lasted exactly 2 and a half years and his contributions to the national team is overstated. he did no more than the strikers from previous generations. asian cup? never even participated, twice he missed out because the consensus was he wasnt good enough for the team. world cup qualifiers? showed up once against uzbeks in his debuting year and silent after that. world cup? recorded a freak goal that bounced off the defender in 2010 and in 2014 was a net minus just by being in the squad

    if he ever played like he gave a ******** and took his career seriously he could have accomplished more but hes a player whose tail of eulogy comes from a glorified underage tournament. at best hes even with other forwards
     
  12. toohyper

    toohyper Member+

    Mar 23, 2004
    MI/NJ/NY
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Nobody ever said Kim Do Heon > Park Ju Young.

    We're talking about their impact in the Premier League. There's no doubt that Park JY had absolutely zero and KDH had close to zero. But as someone said, KDH was playing well before he got injured.

    PJY I would say probably sucked in training thus Wenger decided not to give him minutes. Would a manager waste minutes on a player that he deems as a reserve player? And not like PJY was a young prospect either at that time.

    In terms of the impact PJY had on our KNT, no doubt he is one of the best #9s we ever had. This was never a debate.
     
  13. nmssis

    nmssis Member+

    May 21, 2011
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Don' forget that he also had a nice goal vs Chesley earlier
     
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  14. toohyper

    toohyper Member+

    Mar 23, 2004
    MI/NJ/NY
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I remember watching that on Live TV when he dodged like a p*ssy. I had never seen that from any footballer, ever.

    That's when I realized Ji will never be much of a player.
     
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  15. chook90

    chook90 Member+

    South Korea
    Jan 2, 2015
    Al Khor, Qatar
    Club:
    FC Seoul
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    That was really pathetic though.
     
  16. wetcrispy

    wetcrispy Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 5, 2007
    hollywoo
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Idk if I've ever been more embarrassed for/by a pro player
     
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  17. Kanuck

    Kanuck Member+

    Feb 11, 2005
    La Belle Province
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    he'll never live that down. not for me anyways. recently up there for me as well is Kang Jung-ho.
     
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  18. toohyper

    toohyper Member+

    Mar 23, 2004
    MI/NJ/NY
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Kang Jung-Ho was an idiot but in terms of being an idiot on the playing field...three things will always stick with my mind:

    -Mark Sanchez butt fumble (I'm a Jets fan)
    -Ji Dong-Won p*ssying out on a cross and dodging (I have never seen anything like that, it really tells you what type of person he is)
    -Leon Lett's fumble in the Superbowl
     
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  19. Gravesen the Wizard

    Gravesen the Wizard New Member

    Oct 15, 2015
    Club:
    Zulia FC
    Is there a way to see that Ji Dong Won fail?
    I mean, it's talked about a lot but I've never seen it.
     
  20. toohyper

    toohyper Member+

    Mar 23, 2004
    MI/NJ/NY
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    It's easy.

    JDW is probably the most polarizing player here in BSK. Some are anti-JDW (me included) because he doesn't score any goals, while others here think JDW is an intelligent and technical player.

    In American football term, JDW to me is a "tweener" and in NBA term, "positionless". Not a true forward because he doesn't score goals. He might be relatively tall, but he's not someone who will win tons of headers for a guy his size. He certainly doesn't score many goals and this includes goals from headers. He doesn't have the pace to be a winger nor do I think he's much of a crosser. Doesn't have the ability to score from long-range (his only long range goal I can think of is U-23 Olympic against Brazil (?)). He doesn't have the killer dribbling ability or persistency you want in a CAM. Can't be a CM when his passing isn't that much more superior than other CMs we have.

    He doesn't bring much to the table. And he doesn't score goals. So yeah, he's a failure imo.
     
  21. skimmilk

    skimmilk Member+

    Apr 22, 2010
    Texas, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    #1471 skimmilk, Mar 23, 2018
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2018
    He led the Bundesliga for large portions of last year.

    He does everything a CF or 2nd Forward does at a high level besides score. If you rate CFs only by goals, he's terrible recently but again, his scoring rate has been good at times. If you rate CFs by how they bring other attackers into the game, he's great.
     
  22. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Ji fanclub against Ji haters :D part 56990
     
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  23. Gravesen the Wizard

    Gravesen the Wizard New Member

    Oct 15, 2015
    Club:
    Zulia FC
    Sorry guys. I didn't phrase my question correctly.

    I've been searching for footage of Ji Dong Won dodging that header since it happened but I have never seen it or been able to find it. I want to see how pathetic it really was.

    If somebody can help me find this footage it would be great :)
     
  24. toohyper

    toohyper Member+

    Mar 23, 2004
    MI/NJ/NY
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    We can have this argument all we want, but it's super telling that a bottom tier Bundesliga 1 club loaned him out to the second division. To me, that's more than enough to tell you what he really is as a player.
     
  25. Deleted Users

    Deleted Users Member+

    Nov 25, 2001
    Ok, good.
     

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