2017-2018 NBA season thread.

Discussion in 'Basketball' started by benni..., Oct 24, 2017.

  1. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    My bad. I counted all the series in adding up the 5 losses but for some reason typed "6 series". So yeah... its 5 losses in nine playoff series, a 36-5 overall record. That's Chicago Bulls' 72-10 pace. Quite remarkable for a team averaging about 28 losses in the regular seasons of those same years.
     
  2. zohee

    zohee Member+

    May 28, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Slovenia
    I don't understand what you're getting at.

    I think the narrative on his game has changed. It's been changing since 2016, when they won a chip, but him leaving a contender to join a team on the brink of contention and making that team better, proved a lot of people wrong. Also a lot of people changed sides, just to piss on Lebron.

    The situation with the Pelicans is obviously unrealistic, but doesn't change the fact I would love to see Lebron play with Boogie and Davis. That would be AWESOME!
     
  3. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    The narrative changed because he's playing on a well run, well coached team.
     
  4. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I still dont think he is the guy that people think he is (meaning I dont think you are a legitimate perennial contender if Kyrie is your best player), but he is a hell of a Robin to someone else's Batman. And every team needs that. This isnt college one and done during March madness, in which a hot Danny Manning or Pervis Ellison can carry a team to a championship. You need a high level 2nd player, at the very least, to compete. That was Kyrie.
     
  5. os_mutante

    os_mutante Moderator
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    Aug 8, 2003
    City of Bad Carls
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The game for LeBron is well past "go somewhere with a shot at winning a Finals." He's done that. I can't say I know where he's expecting his narrative to go next but it's going to be something extra. Maybe he expects to be on a Lakers or Knicks team in 4/5 years when he breaks the scoring record.
     
  6. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
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    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I honestly have no idea what LeBron's going to do in the summer. I can't see him staying in Cleveland; that team is capped-out, old, and not strong at all. I also can't see him coming to the Lakers unless he's just absolutely determined to be in LA next year and he conspires with George or Cousins to team up; the Lakers are a young team in rebuild mode that'd have to clear out Randle and Clarkson to make that happen. To me, the 6ers are the most natural landing spot. You already have a superstar big man, a bunch of solid tertiary pieces, and Simmons/Fultz. LeBron goes there and Philadelphia is instantaneously an awesome team.

    Another under-the-radar team I could honestly see is San Antonio. If they wanted to, and if the interest is mutual, the path is relatively simple to clear the space to sign him. Depth might be an issue, but Popovich is a wizard, and he can throw together a bench of vet-min guys and they'd be enough for him.
     
  7. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok, so the Cavs just got blown out by a Spurs team without Pau, Kawhi, Ginobili, and with a half-speed Tony Parker. 114 points conceded to that cast of characters. This team is flat out atrocious defensively. Unless the Cavs can trade for Anthony Davis, you can pretty much stick a fork in them.
     
  8. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I heard kawhi wants to leave?
     
  9. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
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    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Strange report TBH.
     
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  10. zohee

    zohee Member+

    May 28, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Slovenia
    He was playing great basketball, before he joined the Celtics.
     
  11. zohee

    zohee Member+

    May 28, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Slovenia
    I disagree. I think two high end players aren't enough anymore. Atleast not in the Golden State era. That's why neither the Cavs or Celtics stand a chance against the Warriors. Though I understand what you meant...

    Though that doesn't change the fact that people are gonig nuts at how Kyrie's departure has left the Cavs in shambles, which IMO isn't true. Forget their record for a second - we know Lebron's team's don't put in everything in the regular season and we've barely passed the halfway mark of the season .There's a lot of games to be played and I seriously think they can walk to the Finals again.
     
  12. zohee

    zohee Member+

    May 28, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Slovenia
    Come on, while Philly is insanely talented and really fun to watch, they're far from a contender, even with prime time Lebron. My guess is, we could be seeing the ''Banana boat'' team up during the summer. I honestly don't think he stays in Cleveland, because him and management seem way apart, otherwise that Brooklyn pick would've been on it's way.
     
  13. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
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    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
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    Germany
    Embiid is legit. I think they'd be an instant contender with LeBron. Who could facilitate the banana boat though?
     
  14. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
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    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Nah. I think the Celtics will give them a run for their money this year.
     
  15. zohee

    zohee Member+

    May 28, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Slovenia
    Doesn't really matter. NBA executives have a knack for finding ways to make it happen. Nobody thought OKC would land George and Anthony in the same window and they did. Also Philly has zero playoff experience. Now to be fair, neither did Cleveland (or Love), but they've been in the league for atleast 4 years untill that point. Simmons and Embiid both have barely more than a season under them combined. I just don't see it happening. Lebron is going to chase another ring and eternal glory (scoring record).

    I just don't see them stopping playoff Lebron. Again, a shake up is bound to happen with the Cav's and usually those types of meetings end up having a positive effect on them. I think they'll be alright. Boston just doesn't have the star power. It's the same as Atlanta (albeit with Kyrie).
     
  16. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    I think he is becoming more well rounded. Before this season, he was just a scorer. This season he's making a lot of smart team oriented plays/decisions. He's also far less if a liability on defense. Thats probably down to the system.

    I think with more time with Stevens, he wil continue to excel.
     
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  17. zohee

    zohee Member+

    May 28, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
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    Slovenia
    Oh come on, he was improving every year, ever since he joined the league. He's always been a good decision maker. I won't take anything away from Stevens, because that team is well run as hell, but Kyrie has always been this type of player.

    About his defence, I've always been an advocate that he isn't too shabby defensively, since he's always had quick hands and could steal it or knock it out of the attacker's hands. Boston's defensive system, might make him look better, but even Isiah could cooperate in it. So I don't think it's much his improvement, than it is the system Stevens built.

    Saying he made some sort of leap, after joining the Celtics... I'm not buying it. The biggest improvement I saw from him, was the season Lebron joined the Cavs.
     
  18. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    At Cleveland he could only play one way, especially with LeBron on the court. He had to be an assassin. A scorer. He is opening up more of his game imo.

    About the defense, Celtics had to hide IT. He waa checking 3 and D wing players who couldn't create their own offense. They dont have to hide Kyrie.
     
  19. Haole

    Haole Member

    Feb 14, 2005
    costa mesa, ca
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kuzma tore up the Celtics in 4th qtr last nite. Uncontested from downtown and some slick moves. C's look a couple clicks less than last time I saw them In Boston. Lakers got nothing from Ingram and Ball was missing - still more than enough for the win.

    East not exactly on fire these days. See 5-6 Western teams that would lay to waste the East.
     
  20. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I saw the game. Big difference to me ... Kuzma just went unconscious. But the Celtics were still still hitting the floor for loose balls and putting in effort on D. The Cavs have been atrocious for 3 or 4 WEEKS now. And look worse every game on defense. The problems they are exhibiting are not fixable from within. That is the real issue.
     
  21. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This Clippers v Celtics game should be good. Celts struggling and Clips on the rise. One thing I can agree on is that the East is pretty much a mess right now. If Fultz had turned into even a Jayson Tatum type player this year, the Sixers would be dangerous in the Eastern Conference.
     
  22. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
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    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Speaking of Fultz, I'm legit concerned about that young man. The injury is fully recovered as I understand it, he just straight forgot how to take a jumpshot.
     
  23. zohee

    zohee Member+

    May 28, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Slovenia
    Meh, the Clippers have kind of cooled off. With DJ and Evans out, the roster is pretty thin. Our defensive woes are pretty evident. Still like this team though, fun to watch.
     
  24. os_mutante

    os_mutante Moderator
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    Aug 8, 2003
    City of Bad Carls
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Pfft. Puh-leeze like as if behind closed doors somebody was more about keeping it secret than LBJ.
     
  25. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Man, the Pelicans are fun to watch when they come out ready to play.
     
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