Rochester Rhinos Thread

Discussion in 'Rochester Rhinos' started by Rhinonews, Dec 4, 2009.

  1. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was in Rochester this past week when the announcement was made. It was the first time in a while that the D&C covered the team.

    If you want Rhino gear, this might be the last time to get some. So sad.
     
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  6. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Complimentary beverages and light snacks will be provided. #ROC
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  7. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  8. UxSxAxfooty

    UxSxAxfooty Member+

    Jan 23, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  9. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    • The Hampton Roads Mariners took off 1997 and came back in 1998*.
    • The North Jersey Imperials took 1998 off and came back in 1999.
    • The Lexington Bluegrass Bandits took 1998 off and came back in 1999.
    • The Greensboro/Carolina Dynamo took 1998 off and came back in 1999.
    • The Pittsburgh Riverhounds took 2001 off and came back in 2002.
    • The Wilmington Hammerheads took off 2010 and came back in 2011.
    There were several amateur clubs back in the primordial soup days who took a year or two off. But Pittsburgh and Wilmington are the most recent examples.


    *And, kinda, took 2001 off. The franchise went away and then owners bought Nashville's A-League rights because they were contractually obligated to provide a team to the SportsPlex and fielded a team in 2002, which later folded.
     
  10. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Montreal actually took a year off as well
     
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  11. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Montreal’s sabbatical was a feud between Saputo and Marcos, not business difficulties.
     
  12. NORML

    NORML Member+

    Aug 9, 2002
    Lake Wobegon, MN
    Club:
    NSC Minnesota Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thats a bummer. Hopefully the Rhino's are able to get everything in order and can come raging back good as new.
     
  13. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My take on this is that here is what will happen. They will play about 6-8 friendlies during the season with a mix of USL/NASL(if around)/PDL/NPSL teams. Just enough to keep the name out there. The players will mostly be local players and not of real high quality.

    I think that they will end up in USL 2 if the budget works out. In the rally that was held a few weeks ago now, Pat Ercoli mentioned that their budget was already one of the lowest in the USL. The major benefit of staying USL from a budget standpoint was the really limited travel for their division. TFCII, Ottawa, RBNYII, Pittsburgh, Harrisburg. That is a really tight footprint. If there are enough USL2 teams in the NE, I bet they end up there.

    I think the late wrench that Clark threw into the mix, and the ongoing legal issues helped push this decision.
     
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  14. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here is a podcast where Mark Washo, the CFO of the Rhinos talks about the decision to take the season off.

    Interesting stuff.
     
  15. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    apparently an incorrect link provided...
     
  16. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry all - here is the correct one.

    Interesting discussion about possible rebranding for 2019.
     
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  17. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rhinos will play at least 4 matches this year. It also appears that there will be a few USL matches in Rochester as a neutral site.
     
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  18. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One interesting thing from the USL schedule is that Toronto FC II does not have a home location listed. Could these be the ones played in Rochester??? Nothing has been announced yet.
     
  19. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And to make things even stranger the city of Rochester has stated that by not having a team this season, the Rhinos have violated the terms of their lease, and are being kicked out of the stadium. The team is fighting this decision by the city.

    So here is a list of issues
    1. Rob Clark still claims all of the "stuff" is his, not the clubs.
    2. City of Rochester has stated that the Rhinos must leave the stadium by the end of Feb.
    3. At least 4 USL matches will be played in 2018, teams have not been announced.
    4. Rhinos still plan on their Youth Academy teams to play, etc.
    5. Rhinos are planning on returning in 2019.
     
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  20. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    4 Toronto FC II matches will be played in Rochester
    Pittsburgh Riverhounds on May 5
    Indy Eleven on June 16
    Nashville SC on July 28
    Bethlehem Steel FC on August 16.
     
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  21. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rochester Lancers, the NPSL team, have announced that they will play their matches this season at Capelli Sports Stadium. They will be the secondary tenant, with the Rhinos staying as the primary one.

    Still lots of discussion on the local Rochester airways about the city trying to end the lease with the Rhinos. Lots of speculation as to the real reason for this.
     
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  22. UxSxAxfooty

    UxSxAxfooty Member+

    Jan 23, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Care to summarize? I haven't seen anything in the D&C yet.
     
  23. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So the Dworkin's have been pretty open about their belief that they are following the terms of the lease. They both made their money in real estate and I would hope know how to read a lease.

    Interview with Jeff DiVeronica, Soccer Sam and Dave Dworkin here, interview starts around 21:00. See the player at the bottom of the page and move ahead to 21:00.
     
  24. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Essentially the city of Rochester has not made known their intentions for the stadium. If you are going to evict someone, I would hope there is a plan in place.
     
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