2017-18 Roster Movement Thread

Discussion in 'Sporting Kansas City' started by vividox, Oct 27, 2017.

  1. lukeD

    lukeD Member+

    Jul 7, 2011
    Olathe
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is what I was getting at. Maybe PV sees him as a long term player that could step in should Besler leave. Either way, low risk since it's a loan.
     
  2. lukeD

    lukeD Member+

    Jul 7, 2011
    Olathe
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hold on a second. We didn't add a CM, we replaced one, selling our most influential player to do so. Midfield depth is piss poor. Besides Gerso, none of the forwards in the roster are legit starters for pkayoff level teams. Unless things change dramatically, they managed to make one of the leagues most moribund attacks worse.
     
  3. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I do not disagree, but we did add a CM, the net result in numbers is a break even, but still...
    As for fowards, I agree, which is why I said we need a wing and a striker. However, if we add those as starters I am not displeased with our depth, with Salloi, Rubio and Shelton capable depth.
     
  4. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Well, we all know for a fact they're trying to sign at least a striker. Lack of news is annoying. But I think it's worth realizing that center backs are a lot less specific in terms of what the team needs. Also they're a lot cheaper and less in demand. Getting a great forward at a reasonable price point is way more complicated than getting a great defender at a reasonable price point.
     
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  5. Anderson11

    Anderson11 Member

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe it’s my bias towards young American talent, but Emerson Hyndman is looking for an MLS move. I think he would fit pretty well with our squad. He could push Croizet out wide and then a striker is the only thing we’re missing.
     
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  6. BenDover

    BenDover BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 4, 2010
    Rio Verde, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    SKC picks a GK for their first round selection. Looks like they are picking to fill out the Rangers roster.
     
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  7. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was always what was gonna happen with where we were drafting. With 18th pick we took another center back.
     
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  8. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    It's like they listened to me!
     
  9. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Kind of surprised we didn't get Omsberg at #13 if we wanted another defender (not that pre-draft talk is necessarily worth anything, but the analysts sounded like it was mildly shocking that he was still available).

    Oh well, SPR Draft Day was fun I guess.
     
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  10. BenDover

    BenDover BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 4, 2010
    Rio Verde, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    :confused:
     
  11. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Murty is talking as if the loan to Rangers is happening, but if it isn´t he would be a nice addition. Frankly, so would Green, IMO, or Boyd, both of whom could be had.
     
  12. MtMike

    MtMike Member+

    Nov 18, 1999
    the 417
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think it's ever a bad time to have a nice tactical discussion. But I'm a bit of a nerd.
     
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  13. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    apologies if this is a repeat link, but the video highlights look very nice. Problem with any defender highlights is that highlights are nice, but not how they are judged. It is rather the one mistake a game that costs a team, etc. Still, looks most excellent and against some very good teams, from Boca to Newells etc...
     
  14. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
  15. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    The kid is fricking huge
     
  16. kcfooty

    kcfooty Member

    Feb 16, 2011
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did you get paid for its use?
     
  17. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Okay, a bit of a whine. Accam was affordable and he fit a need on the wing. Gerso and Accam running at people would have been transformative. I get that his high pressure might not be up to Vermes standards, but last season we put Salloi out there, who also is a bit light on his defensive duties, is three or four steps slower and, well, a threat to score but nearly as much of one.
    He´s a head case in that he likes being the big man on campus, but he would have been here. He is useful as a tip of the triangle runner, as well.
    I really hope this means we are really really close to announcing a new striker and wing.
    If not, Meram has to be cheaper than Accam. I know this is spending other peoples money which is easy to do, but the MLS arms race is leaving us behind. MLS is getting better every year but this off season is a sea change, and we can not count on a boat with no engine.
    edit to apologize for wildly mixing metaphors
     
  19. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Use - probably not. I assume the league uses my photos as handouts. Not all of the shots on that page are mine, though. There's usually anywhere from 20-50 people crowding around trying to get a shot as well.
     
  20. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    The Accam move is hugely perplexing to me. I understand he wants out of mls. So did Philly just pony up all that money for a session or so plus the hopeful transfer fee? And if the guy wants bigger than Chicago, in terms of mls teams... he went to one of the few teams that's smaller and suckier. The move would have made sense of he ended up in Seattle or LA or somewhere, but Philly? Especially as they're a conference opponent to Chicago, I just can't somehow fathom that they're the team that made the best out only offer. Feels like there's more going on.
     
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  21. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    I got two possible strikers for you from the Danish Superliga, both of them have done well in the past, but then, (like Fanendo Adi who now play in MLS) moved to FC København where their career got derailed, simply because they have plenty of good expensive strikers and so you only get few games to prove your worth or you are out .. which has just happened to their Austrian striker Martin Pušić, who was Danish Superliga top-scorer back in 2014–15, playing for FC Midtjylland before being sold to FCK, but now has been left out of their training camp and been told to find himself a new club.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Pušić

    It should be said that he is earning at least around $500k a year at FCK, as just about all their players do as a minimum... but he has turned 30 and need to find a new club, so I guess you could get him to play for less now.

    Another posibility is the German striker Marvin Pourié who was put on sale by Randers along with Perry Kitchen ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Pourié

    Yet another striker who has done well in the past but did not quite make it at FC København, but I think he would be a great and not all too expensive signing by MLS ... He signed a 2-year contract with Randers 8. August 2016, so they can hardly get more than "small change" when they sell him now ... as for his wages, I don't really know, but my guess would be around $300k a year. ... he's rather selfish though and can be an ill-tempered loudmouth, like a "Zlatan Ibrahimović" kind of guy,.. and he is unhappy and want to leave Randers which is also why they want to get rid of him, considering that they have enough problems on their hand as it is...
     
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  22. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think it's transfer fee related because early in the contract Chicago would get the majority of the transfer fee the teams would split, it's not until year 3 that Philly gets the majority.
     
  23. kckicker23

    kckicker23 Member

    Jun 10, 2003
    KC
    Here's a great piece from SB Nation's Kevin McCauley on MLS salaries and revenue streams. I had never seen a comparison of salaries as a % of revenue from other leagues, but it's striking how far MLS lags behind other leagues. Obviously, much of that is by design in how MLS was constructed, but I think it shows that it's definitely time for MLS clubs to shed their miserly ways. At the very least, Atlanta is showing that there's really no excuse not to.

    https://www.sbnation.com/soccer/201...ord-transfer-fee-15-million-atlanta-united-fc

    As far as SKC is concerned, our wages as a % of revenue comes in at 18.8%. This is a pretty stark example of why I barf every time I see "No Other Club" used without any irony.
     
  24. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    That's painful! Jeez. We have to have one of the worst ratios in the league.
     
  25. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I`ve been making this case all year. For 2016, SKC revenue according to Forbes was $36m. Our player spending at 44 percent would be $15.8m, but at actual spending was $6.7m.
    The standard rule for clubs is that going over 50 percent is a bit risky but it is done. Still, 50 percent at clubs our size is not uncommon. At 50 percent our spending would have been $18m.
    Our revenue has been increasing every year, as has our player spending, But the baseline was set too low.
    In the past we have discussed on here whether or not the club gets a break on the years after the purchase and I think the first five years were fair game for focusing elsewhere.
    But we`re now in a position where we can double our spending and still be safe.
    That is why I don´t get letting Accam and Kamara slip by and being inactive on Meram.
    We need upgrades to keep up with a league that is upgrading fast this off season. We have the revenue, we have the cap room, he have the slots and we have the tam and gam to be flexible about it.
     

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