The Red Baron: Josh Sargent at Norwich City

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Oct 11, 2016.

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  1. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Doubt it- problem is getting him registered before the window closes, and seems that cannot happen because of his birthday.
     
  2. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    sure I have, I coached HS varsity for 6 years. Josh is pretty thickly muscled - I'm not doubting his age (we only do that for players born in Africa here) - he's just clearly (to me) more physically mature than his peers.
     
  3. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kicker magazine quotes
    Werder head coach Florian Kohfeldt:
    “He moves very well, makes plays well and just has an intuitively good striker instincts.”
     
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  4. Gacm32

    Gacm32 Member+

    Chelsea
    Switzerland
    Nov 28, 2010
    Geneva
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Like I said, this kid has got it. I'm not too worried about him just playing friendlies and training with the first team. By the time August comes around, I think he'll be in a situation where he is a legitimate option for the first team.
     
  5. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    <said in teenage girl voice>

    OMG, his first post is going to be awesome!
     
  6. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Moderator
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    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's already posted three times. :)
     
  7. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
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  8. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    If Werder Bremen are relegated, will it be a disappointing move for Sargent or will it open up a quicker path to the first team? I’m worried this turns into a bad move for him if he’s stuck on a 2 BL team.
     
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  9. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    I've been thinking about this too. I'm telling myself that he's young enough and good enough that it won't matter. If they're relegated, he'll have a very good chance of breaking into the first team, and if he's as good as we think, he'll have a good season, either helping them bounce back up or getting transfer interest from Bundesliga teams. Wood was around 23 (right?) when he had has big goal scoring season in the 2nd B. and got the transfer to Hamburg, so if Sargent does something similar as an 18-year-old, I'm sure other teams will notice.
     
  10. WheezingUSASupport

    Dortmund
    United States
    Aug 28, 2017
    Ugh what the heck I thought this guy had a chance with the first team this season.

    If he was already 18 and registered Feb 20th as a free agent would he be eligible?
     
  11. chrome_vapors

    chrome_vapors Member+

    Oct 15, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's nothing disappointing about beginning a pro career as an 18yo in the 2 Bundesliga. It might even have its advantages relative to starting out in the first division.

    At 18yo in literally his first pro season, he wouldn't be stuck there.
     
  12. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's disappointing because he's good enough to play for the first team right now and probably would be if not for the eligibility rule. So he'd be slumming it for a year and a half at least relative to what in all likelihood he's already capable of.

    I'm optimistic they stay up though because they are in form and have some quality in their lineup. Who knows if Sargent has a release clause too if they get relegated. He should have that option considering he chose them over a host of suitors.
     
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  13. TheFalseNine

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    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  14. chrome_vapors

    chrome_vapors Member+

    Oct 15, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
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    #414 chrome_vapors, Jan 19, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2018
    There's nothing factual about this statement. It's entirely conjecture.

    I've grown into as big of a Sargent fan as anyone, and I get that there have been a couple of sexy seconds of video and line or two of quotes circulating the past 48 hours, but Sargent is a yet to be 18yo who's never played a professional game at any level.

    He's not good enough for the Bundesliga or the Bremen first team based on a stellar youth international career or observations of him competing against youth players.

    I don't think there should be anything disappointing about the prospect of him taking his first step into the pro game in the 2 Bundesliga.

    Need to see him play against adults before he's labeled too good for that level i.e. slumming it.
     
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  15. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I put a qualifier in there and it's conjecture by the people deciding whether he'd play for the 1st team or not seemingly. Couldn't be much more effusive in their praise. It seems many are bigger Josh Sargent fans than you (not that it should be a competition, just saying), including his own coaches and teammates. He was arguably the best player playing up a few years against young men in the u-20 World Cup and I'm confident he'd succeed against older men in the Bundesliga (as he's doing in practices) by a similar token. Kid's got it. Don't worry be happy.
     
  16. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    His salary will probably drop significantly, so for Sargent himself it will probably be a pretty big disappointment.
     
  17. chrome_vapors

    chrome_vapors Member+

    Oct 15, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm very happy, especially when it comes to Sargent's pro prospects.

    Your post doesn't take away from anything I've said though.

    He's not too good for the 2 Bundesliga based on a youth career.
     
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  18. TheFalseNine

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    Jul 15, 2014
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  19. kba4life1

    kba4life1 Member+

    Jul 14, 2010
    Irvine, CA
    Lucious locks
     
  20. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Moderator
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    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
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  21. chrome_vapors

    chrome_vapors Member+

    Oct 15, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
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    It's been what 10 or so days now?

    It's certainly a good thing Kohfeldt is still having a look.
     
  22. justinpaul10

    justinpaul10 Member+

    Sep 2, 2013
    Anybody read anything recently? I didn’t see him in the u23 game so maybe still with the first team.
     
  23. TheFalseNine

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    Arsenal
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    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
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    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe you’re correct. It’s my understanding that now that the season has resumed, he is ineligible to play in any official first team or Bremen II matches until the start of next season. Only training and friendlies. I honestly don’t know about his eligibility for the U19s.
     
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  24. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    Bremen's U19 team resumes league play this Sunday after their winter break.
     
  25. justinpaul10

    justinpaul10 Member+

    Sep 2, 2013
    No sargent in the u19, nor the u23, wonder if he he is still with the first team.
     

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