I’ve heard rumor in other threads their first choice is the nascent NISA. Not USL. Which frankly seems odd given they’ve previously said it’s D2 or nothing so take that with a grain of salt. MLS however does not seem to be in the offing since they’re not the designated MLS group in SD. My money at this point is on if they’re not down for USL, would be they simply fold before they start. Last we had heard they’d stalled their stadium plan due to the NASL mess, which certainly isn’t the action of a team that is planning to play in another league if NASL folds. As it is their start, should NASL survive, will be delayed until May as NASL has already cancelled March and April until they get the judge’s ruling on the injunction.
There's never really been much of a punch to that attempted argument imo. California's population is 1/10th of the entire USA. But sure, let's agree that Sacramento (or any other prospective bid) faltering is good for SD.
A friend of mine who knows things told me that Ricardo Campos and Nick Stone have a scheduled phone call next week. Could be peace talks. Could be more rumormongering. I've also heard they're pushing forward with their stadium. Where did you hear they'd stalled?
Oceanside’s mayor last I’d heard had said nothing had been formally submitted to the city about the stadium. The UT ran an article on it a month or more back. And good news on peace talks. Of he teams left attached to NASL, SD would seem the best one to save (NY and Miami come with their baggage owners who seem to want to go down with the NasL ship anyway, PR is geographically and financially in a pickle, Jacksonville is not in the most appealing position, and Cal United wouldn’t be let into USL due to OCSC).
Won’t dull the pain of the wait for MLS (that may never come) but the Xolos are playing Toronto FC at Torero Stadium on January 31 at 6pm. Tickets available here. It was a great time last time they visited.
I've been out of te country for half a month, but did Cosmos wind up folding? Either way, any more news RE 1904 or anything else pertaining to SD.
Cosmos and whole NASL are supposedly in a holding pattern until fall. Reality is NASL is dead, Jacksonville and Miami have retreated to NPSL, Cal United to UPSL, and PR, Cosmos and SD 1904 remain in limbo...
SoccerCity making a comeback? They've filed a lawsuit to disqualify the SDSU West measure from the vote, clearing a path for a straight up/down vote if the lawsuit is successful. https://www.sdchronicle.org/home/2018/4/18/lawsuit-filed-to-repeal-sdsu-west-signatures-iica7
Might help to have SDSU West off the ballot. Might hurt in that people will be spiteful now that SocCity is attacking SDSU legally as well as on the PR front.
Don't mind it one bit, if SoccerCity uses their legal elbows a bit as well, especially since I think having the Friends of SDSU off the ballot will increase their chances.
I've gone from a Soccer City supporter to a SDSU West supporter because I'd rather have an expanded university that will add millions if not billions of economic impact to the region than an MLS team (which isn't even guaranteed if they win). Plus all this petty crap they pull pisses me off since they try to act sincere but then pull this sh*t behind the scenes.
honestly not sure which I prefer. Will vote for them both on the ballot because I'd rather have one of them succeed than neither and the land just be turned into apartments and retail without a stadium. I'm leaning towards your argument but my concern is I don't see how we get a MLS team out of this deal? The official expansion bid is the soccer city guys and I don't see them continuing it if they don't get the land to develop as well. With the bad blood going in both directions I don't see any possible deal. The only way I see MLS coming with the SDSU west project is if state can get a wealthy investor to put together a different expansion proposal, paging John Moores, but would MLS go for that? We know they are more than willing to change the rules for preferred markets, and San Diego is a preferred market, but Soccer City seems to have close ties to MLS, Garber being at the launch and all, so I don't see MLS bending over backwards for a group that "screwed" over their guys. Unless I missed something it seems like we are forced to choose between an expanded SDSU and a home for the Aztecs vs. MLS.
I was really behind Soccer City for a while, but now I just don't care. I feel like I'll be most informed and able to make a decision when it is indeed decision day. My main thing is that, as much as an SSS would be cool, I don't want the taxpayer to foot any of it. As far as SDSU goes, I feel like the campus should all be in one place as far as the student is concerned. This SDSU west almost feels like a new university, or that it should be. Not that I'm against that, per se, but give it a new name and full autonomy within the CSU.
Why should it be a new university? Its less than 5 miles away, it wouldn't have enough housing or classroom as a standalone university and where would the funding come from (no new CSU's are in the books for quite a while).
Because you’re picking one over the other, thus they’ve divided your vote. Rather than being a supporter of the whole concept (ie: either stadium plan) you’ve selected sides. And you’re not alone. Many voters will pick one or the other rather than both. And that’s going to divide the electorate that would have voted for a single stadium plan (and might have barely eeked out a majority given the opponents of any stadium plan in SD will at worst make up 40% of the total electorate). Neither stadium plan is going to get 50.01% with the pro stadium vote this divided.
Well to be honest I am a Chula Vista resident so I won't be able to vote on it But seriously, if Soccer City would just cede the land except for the stadium, the hotels (2) (they could get Murphy Canyon as a sign of good faith for all I care) then this would be a done deal as it would show that it really isn't about the land but about the soccer. However that isn't the case so in my opinion I'd rather go with the sure thing than the almost guaranteed but not 100% thing.
It’s not just about soccer though. This is about land and soccer, or land and football if you’re SDSU.
Exactly. My point being that if Soccer City would just cede land to SDSU, they would get more than nothing but they want everything. So its about money more so than the land. At that point I (and San Diegans more specifically) have to think what is best for San Diego in the long run. SDSU West can fail this year but go again on the docket next year. It can wait out Soccer City but Soccer City needs to win this year or early next or its a no go (unless MLS delays their announcement again).