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Discussion in 'Portugal' started by ---Z---, Dec 11, 2015.

  1. vaiamerda

    vaiamerda Member+

    Feb 27, 2011

    Don't forget that Salvador owns or is part owner of a construction company that has bid and has done work for Benfica-Seixal.
     
  2. OndaVerde

    OndaVerde Member+

    Sporting
    Portugal
    Feb 18, 2016
    Eu vou lá estar
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Structural damage AND a gas leak would probably be grounds for the stadium to be shut down for good
     
  3. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
  4. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
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    Benfica vs Sporting Lisbon postponed after parts of ROOF start falling onto pitch
    League president admits there could have been a "tragedy" at the stadium, which hosts this season's Champions League final

    The Lisbon derby between Portuguese giants Benfica and Sporting Lisbon had to be postponed after strong winds blew debris from the roof down on to the pitch.


    Pieces of glass and other debris fell onto the pitch and into the stands and the game had to be abandoned shortly before kick off.

    The iconic stadium will be hosting this season's Champions League final.
     
  5. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto
    To all of those who were more concerned that Porto was robbing Estoril and not the lives that were put at risk, the 2nd half will be played on February 21.

    Not sure on the location.
     
  6. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    So you think it's fair that Brahimi gets to play the second half? How do we know Estoril's stadium wasn't crumbling when other teams played there throughout the year? How do we know there weren't any other "lives at risk" from previous games? No one got hurt, so why does FCP get to benefit from this?

    I am simply looking at the interest of fairness. Portugal is a shady country with a shady league.
     
  7. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto
    How do you know if Brahimi will play? Will Aboubakar or Marega play? Will Estotil lose a couple of players via injury until the game or will a couple of their injured players be fit for the game?

    The big issue is that the stadium is falling apart. Good thing it was caught or who knows if a tragedy would happen in the near future. What do you mean by why is Porto benefiting? The stadium is falling apart, does it matter who was playing? If anything, if this was vs a smaller club, they could of swept this under the rug.

    This 2nd half will benefit Estoril a lot more if you think about it. These teams can't keep that parked bus in tact for a full 90 minutes due to stamina. Now they have fresh legs for a full 45 minutes of defending their hearts out. If Brahimi plays, he will just cross the ball in for 45 minutes.
     
  8. theFOOTBALLlover

    FC Porto, SC Freamunde & Fraser Park FC
    Jan 17, 2015
    Sydney
    You are ridiculous and should be embarrassed about what you just said. People had to get hurt for us to benefit? The most important thing was the safety of the supporters.

    You do realise that Porto didn't make up the rules? The rules apply for everyone so if Sporting played in those conditions, they should have complained. Maybe it was due to the earthquake that reportedly accorded the day before the game.
     
  9. nbstriker8

    nbstriker8 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 10, 2008
    new beige
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No it probably had something to do with emails
     
  10. vaiamerda

    vaiamerda Member+

    Feb 27, 2011
    #5135 vaiamerda, Jan 16, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2018
    Sorry but you sound like a little bit ch when say stuppid sh it like this.
    Please tell me you are being facetious.

    Like I said, you preach transparency and fairness but one of your major shareowners is Álvaro Sobrinho, approxiamately 30% ownership. The same man who led to the downfall of BES, stole millions from BES and then left thousands of pensioners in Portugal with jack shi t in the bank. Due to the BES going tits up, millions of dollars of loans were mysterious written off on Zabordem's behalf.

    Your whole team is financed on stolen money but you have the balls to preach. Give me a fuc kin break.
     
  11. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I am being incredibly insensitive, sure, but I don't trust a goddam thing in that joke of a country. And I have the right not to.

    Look, we are all grateful nothing happened. Nobody wants anyone to get hurt and to avoid a potential tragedy always puts the best interests of everyone involved.

    I'm just skeptical of the decision-making process when it comes to soccer in Portugal.
     
  12. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    First off, when have the "rules and transparency" ever benefited Sporting? There are no "rules or transparency" in Portuguese soccer.
     
  13. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Looks like Porto is really concerned about the safety of their fans LOL. This is what I'm talking about. Porto trying to take advantage of the fact that they were about to lose to Estoril, so now they have to find a way to exploit Estoril

    FC PORTO QUER VENCER ESTORIL NA SECRETARIA
    LIGA 10:25

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    Redação
    A Liga de Clubes marcou para dia 21 do próximo mês a segunda parte do Estoril-FC Porto interrompido na segunda-feira devido ao abatimento da bancada norte do António Coimbra da Mota mas, segundo A BOLA apurou, o FC Porto vai avançar em breve com uma queixa junto do Conselho de Disciplina invocando o ponto 1 do artigo 94.º do Regulamento de Disciplina, que prevê pena de derrota para o clube da casa, no caso o Estoril, caso se prove que o recinto não esteja em condições por «facto imputável» ao visitado.
     
  14. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Why didn't you include the website that you got that article from? Let me take a wild guess, ABOLA.PT? LOL I rest my case. A new date has already been decided and approved by UEFA.

    Porto should follow the rules and ask for the 3-0 victory but then you guys would cry all over the place. I guess a stadium in risk of collapsing is a clubismo issue and not a safety issue. A strong message needs to be sent or this BS will continue to happen.

    How were Porto about to lose to Estoril? because they were down 1-0 at half time? LOL Have you been watching Porto this season? Porto would of smack 3 or 4 past Estoril in the 2nd half.
    Estoril will benefit from having to play a 2nd half with fresh legs to defend the crap out of the game.
     
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  15. theFOOTBALLlover

    FC Porto, SC Freamunde & Fraser Park FC
    Jan 17, 2015
    Sydney
    The rules are the rules. They apply to everyone.
     
  16. vaiamerda

    vaiamerda Member+

    Feb 27, 2011
    Of course not. You can continue with your narrative of Zabordem being the victim and that's fine.

    HOWEVER, the lack of transparency has benefited your club in spades.

    Do I need to remind you that your club was a wisker away from going bankrupt and it was because of Álvaro Sobrinho that your club exists today (period) A fact is a fact is a fact,. mismanagement, the lack of transparency and Álvaro Sobrinho led to BES going bankrupt. Álvaro Sobrinho fleeced BESA and when BES went bankrupt many companies who had loans with BES, essentially had their loans forgiven. To be fair, SLemails had more loans with BES than Zabordem. To add insult to injury, especially if your one of the many 100s of Portuguese depositors that got 'FUc KED', Álvaro Sobrinho took the money he stole and invested it in Zabordem, 30% owbnership in fact.

    And that's how the lack of transparency has helped your sorry as s club.
     
  17. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    You're a smart dude. Now provide some reliable sources to back up your claims and we're good.

    Besides, coming from a club that got busted for match fixing but was given slap on the wrist, yet local rivals were relegated, this is rich indeed.
     
  18. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I agree that Porto would likely still find a way to win, but there's a reason why other clubs would and should complain. It's not a even playing field. Whatever happens on the benches does not influence the normal course of the game. Period.

    Hilarious though that you try to make it look like Porto is doing Estoril and the rest of the league a solid.
     
  19. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto
    #5144 BatatasFritas, Jan 17, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2018
    So you propose the all the fans should of just gone home and the game should of continued as planned?

    That didn't happen due to safety and security concerns by various governments officials. The choice is having the 2nd played at another time or a 0-3 win for Porto.
    I want the 2nd half played, what do you want? Where did you get the idea that I think Porto is doing the league a solid?

    Are you translating and copy/pasting abola.pt comments on here?
     
  20. theFOOTBALLlover

    FC Porto, SC Freamunde & Fraser Park FC
    Jan 17, 2015
    Sydney
    You do realise that Porto didn't write the rules? If it wasn't in the rule book, we wouldn't even bring it up.
     
  21. vaiamerda

    vaiamerda Member+

    Feb 27, 2011
    #5146 vaiamerda, Jan 17, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2018
    Look, you're a smart guy. There's tons of articles online such as

    http://www.jornaldenegocios.pt/empr...imentos-sobre-posicao-de-sobrinho-no-sporting

    http://www.jornaleconomico.sapo.pt/...desviar-500-milhoes-de-dolares-do-besa-127656

    https://desporto.sapo.pt/futebol/pr...-alvaro-sobrinho-no-sporting-sob-investigacao

    http://www.jornaldenegocios.pt/empr...imentos-sobre-posicao-de-sobrinho-no-sporting

    Here's one in English https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/22/world/europe/angola-portugal-money-laundering.html Scroll to the end of the article.

    And last but not least http://tribunaexpresso.pt/multimedi...ias-entre-Alvaro-Sobrinho-e-Bruno-de-Carvalho

    As for FCP getting busted for match fixing, when did this happen?
     
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  22. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Appreciate the sources. Very suspicious indeed. Although, to be fair, Sobrinho hasn't been charged and the misappropriated funds haven't been linked to SCP. But there does look to be some shadiness there.

    Not so much match fixing on Porto's end, but for corrupting and attempting to corrupt referees.
     
  23. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    No translating or copying anything. As far as the idea of Porto doing the league a solid, that me referencing your reply. You made it seem as though Porto is doing the league a favor by playing the second half of the game rather than campaigning for the 3 points without playing the second half.
     
  24. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto
    #5149 BatatasFritas, Jan 18, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2018
    Still don't see how I implied Porto is doing the league a solid and don't even see how that matters. I already told you I want the 2nd half. What option do you want? 2nd half or 3 points to Porto?
     
  25. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

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