That doesn't apply to North America though. Here, soccer is barely on the radar, and not many people will support a team year in and year out that has no realistic chance of winning. It's not like Europe.
Clarifying "Investment" Of $500M In The New Canadian Premier And Spitballing Budget Numbers https://www.forbes.com/sites/bobbym...-and-spitballing-budget-numbers/#5de1cd945bdd "That puts player salaries in the $1.12M to $1.5M range. Spread across a pool of 20 players that works out at an average salary and benefits cost of $56,000 to $75,000."
Organic team identities, team contract options, single table: What CanPL can learn from MLS https://the11.ca/organic-team-ident...s-single-table-what-canpl-can-learn-from-mls/
True. In the beginning the crowds came despite the bad teams. But despite the numbers that were reported, attendance was clearly down during the later lean years. I've sat in half empty BMO stadiums and the announcer would declare a sellout. Plus they had to reduce their ticket prices in 2012 back to 2007 levels. Ticket prices and crowds went way up when the team started to be competitive. Another example is Montreal. Their crowds are dwindling now.
TSN interview with CPL Commissioner David Clanachan https://www.tsn.ca/radio/montreal-6...create-a-professional-soccer-economy-1.972475 The goals are to create a soccer economy & develop Canadian players, coach and administrators No official affiliation with the CFL Cities in Quebec that are interested : Quebec City, Montreal & Sherbrooke, won't say who else. Criteria to join the league: Business plan, Stadium available (between 6k to 30k seats), Attendance between 6 to 10k peoples per game, passionate owners building the league for the long term League founders will invest $500M over 10 years Soccer specific stadium will be built News for 2018: Within 6 weeks, they will announce CPL key staff, cities that will be granted clubs
That's fine. If certain teams share ownership groups (like Ottawa does now) they will still see the benefit in those markets, which is what matters. I like Quebec City. I think Sherbrooke is too small and, as has been previously discussed, I think they'd be best staying away from the MLS cities (especially to start). Ultimately this is what is going to make or break this league. Are there enough markets that will support attendances of 6000 to 10 000 over the long haul? This is an interesting and useful point. The presence of a soccer specific stadium would make it a lot easier for someone else to continue with a team in that market even if the CPL ultimately failed. If, say, Halifax did well but the league didn't it would be easy to shift to the USL. Finally!
I like Sherbrooke as a Division 2 team, perfect market for that scope. A Quebec City team wouldn inevitably draw interest from Montreal investors. Montreal's biggest rivalry isn't Boston or Toronto, it's Quebec City. I think the league should take the immediate suburbs of the 3 Metro areas like they are doing in Vancouver and GTA. Montreal is trickier as I'd see Laval and South Shore (Longueuil) as Division 2 as well. The 3 main cities getting CPL clubs is inevitable and I think they are team #14-15-16. Since the league wants 16 teams before starting Division II, it makes sense to talk to investors in the main 3 cities ahead of time. I have inside info on potential ownership for the city of Toronto and we're talking very deep pockets and foreigners investors as well. Absolutely. If Regina (a 230k+ pop) can sellout CFL and draw over 15k for Lacrosse, there are lots of cities with more population that can do the same for CPL. As pointed out in the interview, there's a huge demand for soccer in Canada but MLS aren't willing nor capable to satisfy it. Anyway we put it, we need our own league The odds of the league failing looks smaller and smaller. The CSA and ownership are in this for the long haul. Going back to USL or USSF isn't happening, the CSA turned the page on that chapter.
If that's the case then I honestly don't see D2 happening in the foreseeable future. I just don't see there being 16 cities where the CPL will draw a minimum of 6000 fans long term. On a related note, I'm eager to learn the details on how the league hopes to balance using a franchise model (not single entity) with some sort of sharing arrangement to support smaller/struggling markets. Not to quibble but the CFL team is in Regina and the NLL team is in Saskatoon. I agree that there is more demand for pro club soccer in Canada than three MLS teams will ever satisfy. I also think that the thing about an example like the Saskatchewan Roughriders is that they are an exception. They are the smallest market in the CFL and had the highest average attendance in the league in 2017. The CPL could certainly end up with a unique team like that but it would be just that - unique. Having it be possible in one special case doesn't translate into something that will work league wide (or else the CFL would have nothing but sold out stadia as everyone simply copied the Roughriders). So I still think the CPL is going to have problems finding ten stable teams rather than worrying about how to arrange a second division for teams 17-30. But I guess we'll see.
Maybe a variation of pro/rel could occur if at 16 teams the teams play a single round robin tournament in say July to October.(15 games) Based on those standings, these teams are split into a top8/bottom 8 to play between April to June. Just a thought.
CPL fixed the minimum at 200k for an area to be suitable for a club Top 20 fallls under that and large cities can accommodate more than 1 club https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_census_metropolitan_areas_and_agglomerations_in_Canada https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_100_largest_municipalities_in_Canada_by_population I don't see Division 2 happening before 2030. CPL said 16 clubs within 10 years which bring us around 2030 before CPL II could be explored. A good model is an hybrid of what the NFL and CFL are doing. Revenue sharing to help smaller markets while clubs retain their independence. We're just in uncharted territory so that might explain why they put the bar so low for their long term goals. CPL has been very conservative on their planning and expectations. Its not unrealistic to say that they could meet their targets sooner than expected which would accelerate the growth of the league. We'll see. Just waiting to put my name down for season tickets for the York team if it's in Vaughan
When we got info from Beirne that they wanted pro/rel, for the longest time we thought that it was what they mean (splitting the 16 teams in 2 divisions) However they did clarify it would be 16 (division 1), then accepting bids for Division 2. I wouldn't be surprised most of the teams comes from the big metro areas. The big news we got from last week is that they even want to occupy Division 3. This would be big for regional football. It's within the CSA plan to the D3 into a CHL type of system. Since the provincial bodies have no clue what their doing except Quebec and Ontario, CPL/CSA taking over will be long overdue in this country.
Last year, I wrote about what the #CanPL should and shouldn’t do when it launched. Earlier this month, I asked commissioner David Clanachan what he thought of each of my ideas: https://t.co/lPYC2Skmn3 #canMNT— Daniel Squizzato ⭐️🇺🇦 (@DanielSquizzato) January 22, 2018 Let the Commissioner of Canada's New Soccer League Sell You on It https://sports.vice.com/en_ca/artic...r-of-canadas-new-soccer-league-sell-you-on-it
@Robert Borden, stop copying and pasting entire articles into forum posts. It is a copyright violation and could get BS in a lot of trouble if it gets out if hand..
Its official! @Paulbeirne has been named #CanPL President… https://t.co/zjcJTU86Eh pic.twitter.com/XPQ5tAa3l7— Canadian Premier League (@CPLsoccer) January 24, 2018
Halifax "Wanderers" seems set to announce that they will be part of the inugurational season of the Canadian Premier League. Halifax group seeks to join pro soccer league when it debuts in spring of 2019 https://t.co/e95J0iaesD— The Chronicle Herald (@chronicleherald) January 30, 2018
500 M is really the only way I can see this league working. They will need to really support for the first little while and hope either TSN or Sportsnet takes the bull by the horns and promotes this thing. I think people underrate that part of it. TSN literally on its own created the WJHC championship and made it into a Canadian holiday season classic. Pre-1990 the tournament was largely irrelevant. the CPL will need similar support.
Episode #165 21:30 mark Interview with David Clanachan https://www.rawmikerichards.com/ Confirms new information: Additional 3 potential group of ownership has approached the league for a club. So we're now at a number of between 15 to 18 groups.
Early reports James Easton named head of soccer operations for #CanPL— Duane Rollins (@24thminute) January 31, 2018 James Easton will be the v-p who handles on-field/competiton affairs for #CanPL. Author of the Easton Report.— Steven Sandor (@stevensandor) January 31, 2018 958781810363813888 is not a valid tweet id He's the author of the Easton Report https://www.canadasoccer.com/canada...ivision-ii-soccer-viability-in-canada-p153255
James Easton Named Head of Soccer Operations for the Canadian Premier League https://t.co/Vp52MH81mi #CanPL pic.twitter.com/loyCdcUBcH— Canada Soccer (@CanadaSoccerEN) January 31, 2018 More at: http://canpl.ca/article/james-easton-named-head-of-soccer-operations-for-the-canadian-premier-league As Vice President of Soccer Operations for the CPL, Easton is responsible for all on-field matters including competition standards, player management and development, officiating and scheduling. He will work closely with regulatory groups to ensure all aspects of the CPL are in full compliance to FIFA, CONCACAF and Canada Soccer standards. Easton holds an MBA in Executive Management from Royal Roads University and was previously the head coach of the Capilano University men’s soccer team.