NASL Files Federal Antitrust Lawsuit Against US Soccer

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  1. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can you update Wikipedia please?;)
     
  2. asoc

    asoc Member+

    Sep 28, 2007
    Tacoma
    No.

    I will tell you though the D2 standards made them move up the process of moving to Tacoma.

    Will be interesting playing on a baseball field for a few years untill they can get a stadium built. And that isn't guaranteed yet.

    At least it's grass though...
     
  3. SierraSpartan

    SierraSpartan Member+

    Jan 25, 2007
    Placer County, CA
    Club:
    Sacramento Republic FC
    To be fair, being forced to move from Vancouver to Fresno is just a wee bit of a relegation.
     
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  4. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Nonsense. Everyone knows that Fresno is the Vancouver of the Central Valley!
     
  5. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fresno is a new team.

    Vancouver has opted to affiliate with them rather than support its own “2” team.

    Not a relocation. Fresno was announced and Yallop hired before they decided to mothball WCFC2.

    Same thing as when Ottawa entered the league and Montreal shuttered FCM in favor of affiliating with the Fury.
     
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  6. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

    Aug 12, 2012
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    I stand corrected.
     
  7. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Might those Sunil rumors have legs ...

     
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  8. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999

     
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  9. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    Sunil learned so much at FIFA. This is Blatteresque.


    FIFA having to deal with a woman in a Fed as lucrative as the US. LOL.....oh what fun that would be.
     
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  10. Cavan9

    Cavan9 Member

    Nov 16, 2011
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And a woman who 1) gets business and 2) represents her home FA's interests rather than being some loudmouth lickspittle for the corrupt, reactionary old guys that Sepp enabled for all those years.

    Not a bad choice. I just hope she gets a soccer person to do player development improvements while she handles the business side.
     
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  11. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kathy Carter: successful, well-connected, respected business person who understands the game’s economic realities.

    Eric Wynalda: used to score goals. Believes 80% of our problems could be solved by having MLS play in December, January and February instead of May, June and July.
     
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  12. El-ahrairah

    El-ahrairah Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
    Wanker County
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As long as Kathy Carter doesn't want to move the MLS to a fall schedule either.
     
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  13. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would imagine she understands the realities. In any case, the benefits of such a switch (aligning with transfer windows and...well, I don’t know what else, quite frankly, because Waldo is exaggerating) are outweighed by the problems.

    And it’s not “the MLS.”
     
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  14. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    Eric Wynalda: believes he can convince MLS owners to adopt pro/rel because of the lucrative financial opportunities.
     
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  15. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or, barring that, he will just impose it.

    Because Eric may not be clear on how lawyers work.
     
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  16. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    He's not going to impose it. Check out my podcast with him. (We covered pro/rel first because pro/rel zealots tend to have short attention ...)

    Carter was a D1 college goalkeeper back when there weren't a lot of D1 women's soccer players. Still, hiring a GM of the national teams is an interesting idea.
     
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  17. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So say that NASL survives and Wynalda gets elected and implements pro/rel. I can’t see NASL being content that they’ll forever be stuck as a D2 or D3 league. Commisso and Silva would throw a fit even tvough the system would be open.
     
  18. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    I thought the brief discussion of the legal difficulty of implementing pro rel in the USA with Neil Morris in the previous podcast was quite good, and certainly something you don't hear enough about.
     
  19. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did he not just recently tweet that there was a process for doing it if MLS balks?
     
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  20. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Then they should have spent the last seven years finding better owners than Rayo and the techbros and the guys who were running the Strikers, making their clubs relevant in their markets, developing infrastructure and signing D1-level players.

    There has been nothing stopping them lo these many years from building a league that could actually operate like a D1 league, regardless of what USSF calls it. But they've spent the last seven years blustering and, now, suing.
     
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  21. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think that even if they elected Ted Westervelt he couldn't "implement" p/r. Fed President is not a crown.
     
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  22. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank you.

    The NASL/NeoCosmos/Traffic Sports weasels spent years spouting gibberish about how the reason they wanted an NASL team rather than an MLS team is that they could spend whatever they wanted, build a great team without all those pesky roster budgets and rules and such. They used to say that rather than spending a hundred million bucks on an expansion fee they'd "rather spend that money building a team"

    OK, fair enough. Makes some sense. But then they went out and fielded teams of MLS castoffs, third division South Americans and the occasional creaky-jointed ex-Euro 40 year old.

    As you say there was never anything stopping them from building superb teams - at least as good as MLS sides. The chose not to.

    So they skipped having to pay the MLS extortion fee AND skipped buying a strong roster.

    If I was trying to make the point they felt they wanted made, I'd have built a real team and made MLS look small and petty by comparison.

    Instead they built cheap lower division caliber teams and then demanded their own CONCACAF Champions League slot (among other things)

    Soccer is about the product. They had a lousy one and all the lawyers in the world can't change that..
     
  23. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    Had a night to mull this over.

    Sunil....man did he learn.

    He pretty much flipped the switch on all of the candidates bashing him.

    Qualified, experienced, female, pragmatic. He waited until all showed their hands, saw which way the leaves were blowing, let his opponents mouth off....and bam!

    Like I said...Blatteresque. I'm sure may see that as a negative when I say Blatter.
    No different than JK....mediocrity as a coach, terrible leader but what a politician (to the mob), salesman and opportunist.

    Blatter, like it or not, if you know anything about him (other than bein a corrupt scumbag).....was a shrewd politician and maneuverer. Never cross Blatter or move against him, as all of his opponents learned over the decades.

    This was a shrewd move by Sunil and I am all for it, of course Sunil will come with the package, whether you want to believe it or not....each person can be as naive as they like on that one.

    I am not saying we will have a patsy as President.....it's just we will have one that
    is going to be "kind" to Sunil. Don't doubt he will stay on to finsih the 2026 job, and I am sure he will be more than willing to share his thougts on issues and people....and it will be willingly accepted and heard.

    If that makes folks uneasy than it's on you and you will learn over time how things like this work everywhere, or you can kee living in fantasy world.

    I would be all for keeping the part time prof on to deal with FIFA with regards to 2026. Makes sense. Any smart leader would be willing to draw on his experience....in a very "unexperienced" US Soccer landscape, and I love Carter's the Nat team GM role idea.

    Old FIFA farts having to deal with her.....just awesome. I love that more than anything.
    Shieks having ot deal with here.....love it.

    The US Woman's Sorority having to deal with a woman....watch it girls....someone may finall call you out on your hypocrisy and shenanigans. Love it.

    Waldo getting beaten by a woman who din't play in the Bundesliga! That would crush his soul. Love it.

    I'm liking it. Go Kathy,
     
  24. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    I do wonder what he meant by that.
     
  25. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It may just have been EBE.
     
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