Full of Bologna: Giuseppe Rossi back in Série A

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  1. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Some Italian fans would agree with you. They never forgave him being born in NJ, so there was relief each time he was not selected for a World Cup squad. In a way, Giuseppe ended up not belonging here nor there.
     
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  2. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
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    He had already made his choice and had to prove the tifosi Azzurri that he was a vero italiano, not some yankee di merda. That's why the celebration.

    Fans do influence player selection for NTs. And soccer is tribal as hell, true ooga-booga stuff. Mexican managers have lost their job for relying on duals (or "mercs" as styled over there).
     
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  3. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    can anyone recall what Italian thoughts were when he wanted to represent them? did he get critics from their side wondering why they should have an American playing?
     
  4. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
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    Yeah, I had never felt any ill will towards the guy, until that moment.

    And it was especially grating when you compare it to how other players in that situation celebrated ― or rather didn't celebrate ― scoring against the country of their birth/ancestry. Like Juan Pizzi scoring for Spain against Argentina, or Podolski scoring for Germany against Poland.
     
  5. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
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    You are right. Sadly, it is incredibly comprehensible that people will do this. It's silly and petty and ridiculous. But that's the deal.

    We insist professional athletes give up their happiness for ours and then we call THEM selfish if they don't.
     
  6. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

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    Most seemed to think that 2006 team was one of our best going into the Cup, didn't they? (At least, the 0-2-1-and-out was not expected.) In hindsight, sure, it could have possibly been different had that been handled differently.
     
  7. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Part of the reason why artists and sportspeople get paid so much is because their lives come into the public domain.

    Frankly, I rather be poor than subjected to fame. Sounds like the sort of burden that would drive me suicidal within a year.
     
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  8. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
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    I lived in Italy for over a decade, spanning Rossi's pro debut with Man Utd through the last World Cup that he missed out on, and I never noticed any kind of sentiment like that directed towards him. His being born and raised in the U.S. was viewed as something more of a novelty than a sign of foreignness, and I think that's mainly because both his parents were Italian immigrants here, along with the fact that he speaks accent-free Italian. So his "Italianness" was never brought into question, or not that I ever saw.

    There's also the fact that Italian citizenship is based on blood; that regards both their citizenship laws and the way ordinary people there tend to view what makes an Italian. So Rossi was always covered in that regard. It's also the reason why Balotelli has frequently been subjected to the "You're not Italian" abuse, despite being born and raised in the country.

    What you're describing is much more the case with the South Americans who represent Italy, and that's because their connections to the Old Country are far more tenuous. Guys like Camoranesi, Osvaldo, Motta and Schelotto, for example, all qualified to play for the Azzurri thanks to a single great-grandparent who emigrated over 100 years ago. And Camoranesi didn't exactly endear himself to Italy fans when he admitted he didn't sing the national anthem because he didn't know the words.
     
  9. Suyuntuy

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    Jul 16, 2007
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    There was plenty of it online, but then online people tend to be completely different of how they present themselves in real life, so who knows.
     
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  10. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Its one thing to feel Italian or Irish or Israeli due to your parents but due to your great-grandparents? Thats weird that nations still make such exceptions.

    Weird. Balotelli is a douche but I feel bad for him and others in his situation. I think at 18 their lucky if they get Italian citizenship.
     
  11. BostonRed

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  12. keller4president

    Jan 5, 2006
    Rossi to MLS? We really could have used him last night in Trinidad.
     
  13. BostonRed

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  14. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    surely he's taking a paycut?
     
  15. sakibomb523

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  16. ArsenalMetro

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    Desperate times for Genoa. Not quite as dire as Benevento, but still stuck in the relegation zone.
     
  17. GiallorossiYank

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    Next Stop Genoa....in bocca al lupo pepito
     
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  20. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    He has a vacation home in Jersey City. Helps him get away from Genoa.

    (Pretty sure him mom and a sibling still live in NJ - at least his mom did till recently far as I know. Have some friends from that teaneck of the woods.)
     
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  21. Rahbiefowlah

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  22. Ger90

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  23. ArsenalMetro

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  24. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

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    This guy...:rolleyes:
    First he celebrates scoring against the US like he won the World Cup singlehandedly, then he allows his agent to inform us of his decision to grace MLS with his presence when he is 33. Thanks man. I've never wished ill on anyone, but man, you're pushing it.

    I certainly don't see him at the level of a DP contract in 2 years. If he wants to come back home and play for a sheckle or two, fine. Just don't expect a retirement contract like his paisano Giovinco got. He's got a few too many miles on his tires.
     
  25. Suyuntuy

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