Dit is mijn club. - Ajax 2017/2018

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  1. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I got some grief about this over on the Ajaxtalk board as well. Maybe I need to go have my eyes checked. Perhaps the wingers should be Kluivert and Neres from now on. I really like the way Neres is developing, he has a great eye for the field. Nothing much is going to change until there is a complete clean up of the current management structure.
     
  2. Ajax – FC Utrecht 1-2
    Ajax: Onana 7; Veltman 6, De Ligt 6,5, Wöber 5 (63. Sinkgraven -), Viergever 5; S. de Jong 5 (77. Van de Beek -), Schöne 5 (63. F. de Jong-), Ziyech 5; Neres 6, Dolberg 5, Younes 4.
    FC Utrecht: Jensen 6,5; Klaiber 7 (86. Troupée -), Van der Maarel 6,5, Leeuwin 6,5, Janssen 7, Emanuelson 7; Strieder 7, Ayoub 7, Van der Streek 7; Labyad 8, Kerk 7 (88. Willock -).
    Arbiter: Kuipers 6
    Man of the Match: Wie namens FC Utrecht twee keer scoort tegen Ajax kan in de Domstad maar weinig fout doen. Wat dat betreft heeft Zakaria Labyad na vanmiddag een hoop krediet opgebouwd, want dankzij zijn twee doelpunten won FC Utrecht voor het eerst sinds 2012 weer eens in de hoofdstad. De oud-PSV’er kwam één goal tekort om de tweede Utrecht-speler ooit te worden met een hattrick op naam tegen Ajax: dat lukte in het verleden alleen Adil Ramzi in 2006.

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  3. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    How could they give Velyman a 6? He was so bad on the match winner!! I guess I was way off on Younes
     
  4. Actually I was more surprised by the 6.5 for de Ligt, as he was acting so clumsey when the goal was scored by the guy behind him, that it looked more like an 18 year old in an amateur team than a listed top 10 youth by France Football.
    But it can be worse. For those who have watched the goal scored by Chelsea against ManUnited must have the biggest laugh at those claiming defending in the epl is far better than with the Eredivisie. The Chelsea bloke was all alone near the penalty spot (think the nearest MU wa about 6 meters away) while the ball was kicked into the box from the side.
    Probably it wasnot such a good idea to leave Blind out after all.:ROFLMAO:
     
  5. Rinus127

    Rinus127 Member

    Sep 8, 2015
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Mundo Deportivo once again linking Ajax's Matthijs de Ligt with a move to Barcelona. He is "The chosen one" to strengthen their defence.
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  6. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    ^^^^ that would awesome, but I think he's still too young
     
  7. Rinus127

    Rinus127 Member

    Sep 8, 2015
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Ajax bindt rits talenten

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    Ajax is erin geslaagd een rits talenten langer aan zich te binden.

    De club bereikte mondeling overeenstemming met de tweeling Quinten en Jurriën Maduro (16), Jasper ter Heide (18), Liam van Gelderen (16) en Sven Botman (17) over hun eerste contract, terwijl ook Ryan Gravenberch kan tekenen zodra hij in mei volgend jaar 16 wordt.

    De broers Maduro speelden eerder in de jeugd van Feyenoord en zullen een driejarige verbintenis aangaan. Ter Heide was als rechtsback lang een twijfelgeval, maar pikt het bij John Heitinga in Ajax onder 19 goed op als controlerende middenvelder. De boomlange Botman kan als linksback en linker centrale verdediger uit de voeten. Ook zij tekenen tot de zomer van 2020.

    Centrale verdediger Van Gelderen en middenvelder Gravenberch worden als de grootste talenten uit de opleiding beschouwd en stonden al internationaal in de belangstelling. Mondeling is overeengekomen dat zij hun eerste (driejarige) contract bij Ajax tekenen.
     
  8. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    ^^Really good news. Let's hope management keeps this up and contracts all the good players to avoid the Fosu-Mensah debacle again.
     
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  9. pfloyd

    pfloyd Member

    Mar 18, 2012
    Varna, Bulgaria
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Why is he insisting on starting Schone instead of Frenkie? And Wober on the bench? I'm not sure anymore Keizer is the man.
     
  10. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Ajax put a big hurt on NAC tonight. Hat trick from van de Beek and a brace by de Ligt led the scoring. Defense was a little sloppy but it didn't matter as Onana saved everything that was hit at him though most of them were very easy saves. Good to finally see a bunch of goals put up even though the NAC defense was quite shoddy. Don't know if that was really a correct penalty call when Frenkie de Jong went down in the box but Schöne left the keeper hung out to dry. I thought it was a strange double substitution when Huntelaar and Frenkie came on but it looked like Ajax were going to a 3-5-2 as de Jong stayed in the MF and the LB (Sinkgraven and then Wöber) moved up as a wingback with Veltman, de Ligt and Viergever manning the backline.

    Player Ratings:

    Onana (7) - only flaw was a very week pass early in the first half that was easily intercepted but the NAC player shot weakly on goal
    Sinkgraven (6.5) - didn't have much defending to do at all and did press forward quite well throughout the match
    Viergever (6) - really sloppy defending allowing the NAC player to get in on goal but Onana came up with the best save of the match
    de Ligt (8) - pretty much flawless in all aspects of the game
    Veltman (7) - pushed up hard since he didn't have to defend
    Schöne (7) - very good on the ball with some nice passing
    Ziyech (7) - forced a couple of good saves and unfortunate not to get on the scoreboard
    van de Beek (8) - any thought of Siem de Jong ever getting a start this season should be settled
    Kluivert (7.5) - some really good wing play and a nice assist on one of the van de Beek goals
    Dolberg (6) - more active in the center and decent on the ball
    Neres (7.5) - his field awareness is perhaps the best of any of the starters, always playing under control and knowing where the open man is
    Huntelaar (6.5) - on for Dolberg and a great header for a goal
    Frenkie de Jong (6) - came on for Kluivert was OK, needs to get more playing time
    Wöber (6) - on to finish the match for Sinkgraven

    PSV away to PEC tomorrow and let's hope for some spilled points. Ajax home next Sunday to Roda in an early match
     
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  11. NAC Breda – Ajax 0-8
    NAC Breda: Birighitti 3; Sporkslede 3, Mets 3, Mari 3, Angelino 3; Verschueren 3, El Allouchi 3, Korte 3 (46. Meijers 3); Garcia 3; Vloet 3 (75. Sprangers -), Ambrose 3 (66. Enevoldsen -).
    Ajax: Onana 7; Veltman 7, De Ligt 8, Viergever 7, Sinkgraven 7,5 (81. Wöber -); Van de Beek 8, Schöne 7,5, Ziyech 7,5; Neres 7, Dolberg 6,5 (60. Huntelaar 7), Kluivert 6 (60. F. de Jong 7).
    Arbiter: Makkelie 7
    Man of the Match: Twee goals, een clean sheet en de jongste Ajacied ooit met vier goals op naam in de eredivisie: Matthijs de Ligt beleefde in Breda een uitstekende zaterdagavond. De Oranje-international werkte naast zijn twee treffers ook nog vijf ballen uit zijn eigen defensie weg en maakte met Nick Viergever een goede indruk in het hart van de verdediging. Nóg een goal in het Rat Verlegh Stadion had voor De Ligt betekend dat hij de eerste Ajax-verdediger ooit zou zijn geworden met een hattrick op naam.
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    Ajax met vier spelers in Elftal van de Week

    De acht goals van Ajax zaterdagavond zorgden voor acht records. Zo werd er bijvoorbeeld nooit eerder met dergelijke cijfers een uitwedstrijd gewonnen door de Amsterdammers. Deze recordzege zorgt er dan ook voor dat vier Ajacieden terug te vinden zijn in het elftal van de week.


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    Donny van de Beek © ANP Pro Shots
    Donny van de Beek maakte zijn eerste hattrick in het betaald voetbal en kan de grote man aan de zijde van Ajax genoemd worden. En die treffers komen op het juiste moment, want de middenvelder werd in het vorige eredivisieduel nog gepasseerd ten faveure van de makkelijker scorende Siem de Jong. Van de Beek was niet de enige Ajacied met een 8 voor zijn optreden, ook Matthijs de Ligt (tweemaal trefzeker) kreeg een dergelijke beoordeling. Buiten de twee Amsterdammers, was er nog één speler met een 8: Ryan Thomas
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    I personally think this is exegerated, given the woefull "resistance" of NAC.
    PSV fought a far better PEC Zwolle and got worse numbers. So when you wack an opponent that might as well not be on the pitch you get better numbers than a team that has to fight a real opponent.
     
  12. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I agree with you 100%. NAC were horrible on defense. How can Huntelaar be on the team of the week if he only played 30 minutes. His goal was OK but not exceptional and he didn't really do much else. Maybe no other striker had a good game. Sinkgraven was OK but team of the week????
     
  13. Antario2

    Antario2 Member

    Jan 29, 2012
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    It's worrying that such results are possible even when Ajax hasn't really played a stable game yet this season. Still the news media will be shouting halleluja again for a week or two.
     
  14. Puts those ratings in perspective...They're only right if they match my impression, and then still we both could be wrong:D
     
  15. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    The only one I trust with my ratings is me! Even then I usually have to watch all the games on an Internet stream and seldom get the opportunities to watch replays often enough to make some critical judgements.
     
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  16. I just watched the highlights of jong AZ - Jong Ajax.
    Why do you have that Cassiara guy still there? He doesnot seem to improve his play.
    Was another whopping. After a lead of 0-2, Jong Ajax was lucky the score stopped at 4-2.
     
  17. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    They are not very good this season and it's surprising that they are in 2nd place. It is hard to tell about Casseria and whether he will make it or not. I guess he ultimately will battle with Serhuis (suspended for yesterday's match) for striker. Eiting is probably the only other player from this group that has a chance. There is far more talent at the u-19 level.
     
  18. pfloyd

    pfloyd Member

    Mar 18, 2012
    Varna, Bulgaria
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Bijleveld has lots of talent but only time will tell if he will develop into a class player. Getting enough playing time is key so a lot depends on how often and in what role Reiziger will use him. Haven't seen much of Serhius but it seems he has what it takes to become a good striker. Other than these two plus Eiting there isn't much to write home about.
     
  19. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
  20. Rinus127

    Rinus127 Member

    Sep 8, 2015
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
  21. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  22. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Guys any comments on sam Hendriks. He seems to be doing good in ereeste divisie for Go Ahead eagles. He was also at jong ajax.any spotlight on him .
     
  23. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I think he played in one or two first team matches, maybe Beker games. He was just not good enough for the first team.
     
  24. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    The kids led by a Kluivert hat trick pulled Ajax out of the first half funk and it ended with a comfortable 5-1. If the club can only find a way to come out at the beginning of matches we might all breathe a little easier. the lone Roda goal came on a free kick which traditionally seems to always be an adventure for the Ajax defense. Silly foul, followed by a weak clearance and finally a defender beaten in the air. There was some sloppy passing and some give aways but Roda were never likely to threaten from open play. Onana was ready to snuff out any shots on goal. Keizer's decision to take off Zeefuik and move to a 3-4-2 with Frenkie de Jong coming on at the half was the correct one.

    Player Ratings:

    Onana (7) - sharp on all the shots headed his way
    Wöber (7) - solid game at LB
    de Ligt (7.5) - weak header on the set piece and a missed finish on a nice cross late in the match were the only things to complain about
    Veltman (7) - yes, he was weak on the Roda goal but pretty decent otherwise
    Zeefuik (6.5) - OK in his first team debut before coming off at the half
    Schöne (6.5) - did not put much of an imprint on this match
    Ziyech (6.5) - some really good passing and some really awful passing; is he really interested in playing for Ajax?
    van de Beek (6.5) - silent and without a touch for long stretches but a wonderful goal on the cut back pass
    Kluivert (9) - would have been higher but for a couple of wild shots on goal [​IMG]
    Dolberg (7.5) - got the match winner and forced a couple of good saves from the Roda keeper
    Neres (7.5) - has the best field awareness of anyone in an Ajax kit these days
    F. de Jong (7) - should be starting every match
    S. de Jong (5.5) - late sub for Schöne
    Johnsen (NR) - on for Kluivert late

    Off to Enschede to take on FC Twente next week and then the big match with PSV
     
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  25. Ajax – Roda JC 5-1
    Ajax: Onana 6,5; Zeefuik 6 (46. F. de Jong 7,5), Veltman 5, De Ligt 6, Wöber 6; Van de Beek 6,5, Schöne 6 (81. S. de Jong -), Ziyech 6; Neres 5,5, Dolberg 6,5, Kluivert 8 (86. Johnsen -).
    Roda JC: Jurjus 5,5; Götz 6, Kum 6, Auassar 6, Vansteenkiste 5; Ndenge 5,5 (72. Vancamp -), Gustafson 6,5, El Makrini 6; Engels 5 (79. Milts -), Schahin 6, Van Velzen 5,5 (64. Rosheuvel -).
    Arbiter: Nijhuis 7.
    Man of the Match: Een uitblinkende Justin Kluivert zorgde er tegen Roda JC vrijwel hoogstpersoonlijk voor dat Ajax voor eigen publiek geen nieuwe zeperd opliep. De buitenspeler, bij afwezigheid van Amin Younes in de basis gestart, draaide Roda-back Ashton Götz bij vlagen tureluurs en tekende in de Johan Cruijff Arena voor zijn eerste hattrick ooit in de eredivisie. Iets waar vader Patrick in het verleden nooit in slaagde.
     

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