But i did order one of these today! I love novelty/joke t-shirts! bought one of these today @CanadianPremLge pic.twitter.com/1Vl5jp0Hws— Toarea Fan 🇨🇦 (@TOareaFan) November 10, 2017
If that's the case, we have a good handle on what the teams for a 2019 start to the CPL will be: Surrey, FC Edmonton, Saskatoon, Winnipeg, Kitchener-Waterloo, Hamilton, Ottawa Fury, Halifax. There's your original eight.
Perhaps CPL related: 📰 | https://t.co/kDwS2HTTSY | #CanPL | “BCFC” Trademarked by Vancouver based company for merchandising and operation of a soccer team.— CanPL FC 🇨🇦⚽ (@CanPL_FC) November 16, 2017
CBC reporting (radio, so no link) that a group has approached the CFL about putting a team in Halifax. No word on who they are, just that they are quite credible. I'm assuming not the soccer group because there's no way a CFL team would play out of a 6000 seat stadium. If it goes ahead it could impact on Halifax CPL in two ways. First, negatively, it would impact on available dollars and take away the "only game in town" status for soccer. Second, positively, maybe the two groups could link up to their mutual benefit.
BREAKING: CFL looking at Halifax for home of new franchise: @TSN_Sports https://t.co/YfQH7H94Ar pic.twitter.com/XTiABRIthP— CTV Atlantic (@CTVAtlantic) November 16, 2017
Assuming CPL will stay clear of days when there's CFL games going on, the city can handle 2 sports in the summer. Halifax and Nova Scotia has a healthy economy so I'm not worried about available dollars. Happy for Halifax. It's a great city that deserves exciting stuff like this and it's been overdue. Another reason for university students to stay as they usually all leave when school's over. Add: Heard the stadium would be across the river in Dartmouth. So CPL being on the Wanderers Grounds Downtown Halifax works well for them. Good choice for both teams For those who are more visual: CPL would be near the citadel (downtown), CFL across the river in Dartmouth
Regarding the BC FC story: Address of the BCFC trademark is listed as 388 - 1111 West Hastings Street, which is the address of Knightsbridge Capital Group. President of Knightsbridge is Dean Shillington, who follows just about every CPL related account on Twitter (https://twitter.com/DeanShillington) and is followed back by Rob Friend, Joe Belan, and Lee Genier. Looks like the Surrey Group. The profile of CPL ownership so far has been consistent and that a great thing. The money behind the league seems very legit.
Regarding CFL & CPL in Halifax From the CPL group twitter: Lots of questions re: our position on CFL in Halifax story so here you go: 1 - We have had some discussions with the group but are not currently part of it. 2 - We believe a rising tide lifts all boats so we support any effort to bring more sports & ent options to Halifax. (1/3)— Derek Martin (@WandererDerek) November 17, 2017 3 – We believe the global sport of soccer is on the upswing and has a bright future in Canada. We also believe the soccer fan demographic aligns very well with the emerging identity of Halifax as an urban dense, youth and immigrant friendly, international city. (2/3) https://t.co/H7DNlPisRK— Derek Martin (@WandererDerek) November 17, 2017 4 – We believe our accepted proposal for a right sized, privately funded, modular stadium located in the heart of downtown on the historic Wanderers Grounds is the best option for our downtown and our community right now but we are excited to see what the future brings. (3/3) https://t.co/AAgoPTvLXG— Derek Martin (@WandererDerek) November 17, 2017
The importance of CPL successfully occupying the top 2 Divisions: The Vancouver Whitecaps have folded their feeder team and have signed a new affiliation agreement with USL expansion club Fresno FC. https://t.co/lGg3V23Qeo pic.twitter.com/Ft2K1CCtpu— Sportsnet (@Sportsnet) November 17, 2017
Perhaps some insight on the inner finances of CPL: Someone posted this on twitter: How about we just get rid of all of the ridiculous MLS rules and play with a single hard salary cap? Life would be so easy. #MLSing https://t.co/YSRp3cwpRO— 𝕲𝖑𝖆𝖘𝖘𝕮𝖎𝖙𝖞 (@GlassCityFC) November 21, 2017 Selling players for cash within MLS would be a win-win, keeping top players and money inside the league: https://t.co/PpDBvqkmr6 pic.twitter.com/rbkHay06NM— Paul Tenorio (@PaulTenorio) November 20, 2017 Someone who said to have had talks with the Saskatchewan Ownership replied this: From conversations I've had w the SK ownership group, it's clear they want to avoid this garbage as much as we want it to be avoided.— CanPL Sophisticated Sports Fan (@JeffDSalisbury) November 21, 2017 Duane Rollins added this: There’s going to be a salary cap of some kind, but I suspect it will look more like CFL than MLS— Duane Rollins (@24thminute) November 21, 2017 Seems like CPL is heading towards a hard cap instead of all the complex rules MLS has at the moment. Also, it seems almost a certainty that clubs will own player's contracts, not the league.
A hard cap would be simpler and would be a great way to start the league. Recall that MLS had a simple system to begin with and began tinkering later as the league sought ways to foster growth while maintaining stability. Without more details on the financial structure it's hard to say if having the clubs hold the player contracts instead of the league would be good, bad, or indifferent. There are pros and cons to each model in any case.
Seems like FC Edmonton believes in a 2019 CPL Season: Hearing that FC Edmonton will not participate in a 2018 #NASL season and will likely take a year off before CanPL launch. SF Deltas also unlikely to participate unless a new investor is found. Potential NASL 2018 would feature 12-13 teams.— Chris Kivlehan (@kivlehan) November 21, 2017
^hope they are right that it is just a year off......more than that could kill off any "running start" they have and turn them into a cold start situation.
What the single entity, league owns contracts brought MLS is a league with far more franchise/club stability than any other league in north american history......it would be a shame to discard such a lesson just for the sake of clinging to some notion of simplicity.
I just like the single entity system....it means one owner can't create as much instability.....i find the machinations of MLS cap/salary rules crazy confusing....so that could be simplified (ie. no need to directly copy MLS) but I really do like the idea of league ownership of contracts/players/clubs.
^ I'm wondering if we couldn't see the best of both systems. Have a salary cap for survival. Have the clubs hold the contracts so that clubs have the incentive to develop players as they will see the pay off for doing so. Have a single-entity-style revenue sharing arrangement for most other sources of revenue like tickets, uniforms, media, etc. for parity.
Every league that I am aware of that has tried to do this has found teams willing to try and work their way around the cap for some sort of competitive advantage....and that has often led to instability.
I doubt CPL goes down the Designated Player (DP) path. That's a very obvious way to escape the cap and the league has other mechanism that most people don't understand. Something like the NHL is doing where clubs owns the contract with some sort of formula for revenues redistribution. As frustrating as it is when you see Gary Bettman being on TV with his stupid grin saying there's no problem in cities with low attendances, we know that the league's system of collecting from very rich teams to help poorer teams works. Hardly perfect but not so bad either granting clubs more independence under a strict league structure. I don't know how CFL operates but I don't think they are doing that, nor do they need to do that.
teams in leagues have gotten into financial trouble by trying to circumvent the cap in the hope being better will bring bigger crowds and pay for the extra expenditure....also, teams with deeper pockets will always try and circumvent the cap which breeds despair in the fans/supporters of other teams giving them less reason to attend. How long has the CFL had a salary cap? How many of their 8 or 9 teams (at various times during that span) have had their financial backs up against the wall at various times.
^ Ah, I understand what you're saying now. There are examples where a salary cap works well (NHL) and where it has at least ensured survival (CFL) without single entity. To me, its not lack of single entity that puts CFL teams at risk from time to time so much as that the league isn't as well resourced in total because it isn't as popular overall as the bigger leagues. Single entity will have a limited ability to help that - which is actually one of my worries about the CPL. Whether single entity or revenue sharing, strong teams can only help float weak teams if the strong teams are themselves strong enough. Marginal teams trying to help weak teams won't work. Regardless of what model they ultimately use, I hope the CPL at least tries to mimic the parity aspect of MLS. I don't want to see an European style league with permanent winners and losers.
MLS single entity worked in the early years not so much because there were strong teams.....there were strong owners, some of whom really wanted the league to succeed and were willing to keep writing cheques...without the Hunts and AEG the league would not have made it through the early seasons......if the CPL has two owners of relative strength but they are only able to save their own teams...what is the point? That is the real strength of the single entity.....before MLS bottomed out, how many teams were owned by those two groups?