PBP: U.S. U17s vs. England, QF Round, 10/21/17, 10:30 a.m. ET

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by TheFalseNine, Oct 17, 2017.

  1. USSoccerNova

    USSoccerNova Member+

    Sep 28, 2005
    Halftime thoughts:

    I almost posted before the game that I didn't have a good feeling about Booth starting given his physical limitations against an athletic team. Will watch to see how his body develops in the future as he's relatively good technically/tactically by our standards.

    England is a much better team to project how Carleton's game translates to higher levels. He's been decent enough thus far, but not the difference maker many hope he'll ultimately be.

    Assuming no injuries, I agree with others that wrote that Dest should be starting over Watts.

    Lastly, we have to get better at all levels at playing with some composure when pressured. Starts with better youth coaching and an emphasis on ideal spacing, shielding the ball and better first touch. Perhaps have kids play up in age or against adults, or focus on practicing more against high pressure. Something's got to change as we are too soft and panicky across the board.
     
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  2. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    He's a whipping boy for a reason (although I doubt I have commented on him more than twice this tourney) he is selfish around the 18 and poor to middling everywhere else. As for the play, you may be right. I saw it differently and commented in jest.
     
  3. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Yeah, he's really good. Only '01 on the field on a field with many very good 00's, and he's been one of the standouts, IMO. The first goal he actually took the ball away from Foden, but England got a little lucky that he poked it to a place where we had no defender, so Foden was able to retrieve the ball. That was in general a very poor sequence by Gloster who should've been there to retrieve the ball, and then got beat by Foden.

    I get that we could use a more physical presence in there like Durkin, but Booth is far from a problem, he's actually one of the team's best players. Would've liked to see Durkin in there with Booth with another CB, but Hackworth doesn't trust Shaver to play him, and left the other good CB's at home.
     
  4. beerslinger23

    beerslinger23 Member+

    Jun 26, 2010
    My alarm got me up 5 minutes into the match and I went directly from bed to computer#1 so my mood has improved significantly since then and perspective is oozing in. I'm not even upset anymore. Oatmeal is boiling and the coffee is warming.

    This has actually been a nice display of attacking under a press. The finishing has been poor but everyone looks capable at least on the attack.


    Ferri has been a big problem. Maybe Hackworth is waiting until dead legs before bringing on Acosta but he will unlock the England defense. Question is what to do about the fullbacks and defensive midfield. We could use Dest but it seems like he would be hurt if he's not starting here. Entertaining game win or loss and I am still pretty stoked about the attacking talent that is growing at this age level.
     
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  5. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Acosta instead of Ferri would be the same problem. Maybe a little smarter with better decision making, but he'd get overrun. England's players are almost all good athletes, Ferri is a mediocre player as is. Put him against a team that can really take advantage of his biggest weaknesses, he'll really struggle.
     
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  6. didi11

    didi11 Member

    Dec 13, 2013
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Hack will put in Acosta
     
  7. eainterplay

    eainterplay Member

    May 11, 2008
    Alabama
    Club:
    Rangers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I don't know if it was nerves or what, but in the first 10 minutes he was running around like a chicken with his head cut off, and was running out of position and was leaving passing lanes in the middle 3rd wide open.

    After that he calmed down or something, and has been a lot smarter with his positioning and off the ball movement and along with Carleton has been one of the big reasons the build up play for the US has been so successful in the first half.
     
  8. beerslinger23

    beerslinger23 Member+

    Jun 26, 2010
    Of course Acosta would add nothing defensively but he would unlock the defense. We are missing a little touch of class in the area. I just don't see what Ferri is adding defensively so might as well go all out in the right moment and we do have an extra day's rest.
     
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  9. didi11

    didi11 Member

    Dec 13, 2013
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Oops, I’m no Hack
     
  10. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    This.
     
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  11. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    Rep’d for owning up.
     
  12. Techsan111

    Techsan111 Member

    Jul 8, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Sure looked like a clean tackle by Booth to me
     
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  13. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    Especially since he’s not even watching the game.
     
  14. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    Taking all the outside shots in the first half can work to the team's advantage. England will step up sooner now and faking shots can lead to getting inside and maybe even cause defenders to pull down the US players.
     
  15. beerslinger23

    beerslinger23 Member+

    Jun 26, 2010
    Hudson Oduy is fun. He looks like Pulisic in form. Looks like he is moving at a normal speed and everything around him is moving in slow motion.
     
  16. Techsan111

    Techsan111 Member

    Jul 8, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Lucky whistle saves the game for now
     
  17. napper

    napper Member+

    Jan 14, 2014
    Fullerton
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. napper

    napper Member+

    Jan 14, 2014
    Fullerton
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What happened?
     
  19. Techsan111

    Techsan111 Member

    Jul 8, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Booth out for Dest? What?
     
  20. Susaeta

    Susaeta BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 3, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whatever Hackworth says to these kids in the locker room puts them to sleep for the first 15 minutes of the half.
     
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  21. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Dest coming in!
     
  22. PalmettoSpur

    PalmettoSpur Member

    Oct 21, 2015
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Dest has been available this whole time?!
     
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  23. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Dest in y Booth out
     
  24. Gacm32

    Gacm32 Member+

    Chelsea
    Switzerland
    Nov 28, 2010
    Geneva
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Wow..Hackworth is a tool. He could have started arguably our best defender in this tournament, but decides against? What a fool.
     
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  25. beerslinger23

    beerslinger23 Member+

    Jun 26, 2010
    NO one can complain about biased officiating in this one.
    He might not be 90 minutes fit. Maybe he can only go 60.
     
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