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Discussion in 'Chivas' started by DGreat, Nov 10, 2013.

  1. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    not going to happen, this team needs to get healthy again it is too depleted
     
  2. Emigomez

    Emigomez Red Card

    Dec 15, 2012
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Cisneros is really shining , his speed and dribbling is getting better every day .
     
  3. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Honestly, today’s loss was expected but the way we lost was total bullshit

    How is it that in a span of 2 min we gave the game away?
     
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  4. El_LatinLover

    El_LatinLover BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 27, 2007
    The Poorside
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Like the fellas above were saying: injuries. Salcido asked for his change and a couple of minutes later two goles are scored.
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    So, if you guys needed more proof of why Cota needs to get the f out, there it is. ALso, it's like 8 mil to keep him. Lulz. I wouldn't take him for 1 mil.

    Injuries really decimated this team, and couldn't really gel or score. I'm glad we lost, because I could not take another effing tie. We need better physical trainers; and we need to start promoting more youth. We'll see the difference of next week's team(Copa) to this one...even though this is probably the best chivas has played all year--well, until Salcido exited, anyway.
     
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  5. Neymadres

    Neymadres Member+

    Jan 29, 2013
    So CaL
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Brizuela looked really good as a LB
     
  6. El_LatinLover

    El_LatinLover BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 27, 2007
    The Poorside
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    I still don't know why Aris was out there. You could see the difference between Aris and Brizuela/Cisneros. I was glad Brizuela finally showed us that he is back from his injury. It took a while, but this game was a promising sign. Next season we need Aris and--well, we have cota one more season so I guess he is staying--one of the injury prone defenders needs to be sold/traded/cut/benched.

    There are plenty refuerzos available that are not splashy, so you can easily get one for Aris or a couple for our MIA defender from cruz azul...he's missed so much time I forgot his name. Just need a defender and, as always, a forward. The rest we got plenty of depth.

    I would even consider trading or selling gallito to some desperate descenso team for some players. He's already hit his plateau and falling in quality.
     
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  7. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
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    Mar 6, 2002
    I was at the stadium last night. Chivas did really well but they wasted a lot of chances and they were done after the Cota mistake and the 2nd goal. It really looked like they gave it their all. In the press conference Almeyda looked relaxed, like he finally had the team playing well and where it went wrong.

    Also of note that this is the 3rd Superclasico I've seen in Azteca and for the first time Chivas was clearly outnumbered. There were a lot of Chivas fans but it was clearly a Pro America crowd.
     
  8. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
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    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    considering the team had a bad season, I am not surprised.
     
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  9. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    From Campeon to last place in less than a year! I expected Chivas to have a poor season but not this poor. The team can't even win at home. This is my only criticism of Almeyda -- he has never been able to turn Chivas stadium into a fort.

    Higuera blames the dismal season on EGO, I blame it on poor planning. If there was a time to go after a few players [2-3] to maintain the squad competitive that would of been in the summer transfer window because it will be very difficult to negotiate a top caliber player in a world cup year.

    While I expect the club to recover by next season the uncertainty of Matias Almeyda remaining at the helm could pose another set back. If the coach wants to leave, which has been made clear by his agent, then I wouldn't be surprised if Vergara/Higuera lose patience with the coach and sack him if there is another poor start -- which he has had more than once now.
     
  10. El_LatinLover

    El_LatinLover BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 27, 2007
    The Poorside
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    on your 1st paragraph: I am not really surprised. Even last season we had trouble scoring, so when your top scorer goes down for most of season, then it is even more expected to have big trouble scoring. Injuries are still a significant nuisance.

    2nd paragraph: Eh, I don't really care for Higuera, so I will not talk about him. When are you going to let go of that transfer mentality? If you think two players would have switched this season around, you are missing some analytical reasoning ability.

    3rd: If you think Vergara would fire him you are insane. Just an opinion. He is definitely looking for his replacement right now. Almeyda is the next tri coach. Bad starts are irrelevant. This was a bad season.
     
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  11. Neymadres

    Neymadres Member+

    Jan 29, 2013
    So CaL
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
     
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  12. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    lip service
     
  13. Neymadres

    Neymadres Member+

    Jan 29, 2013
    So CaL
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Think so? then again he was trying to shut reporters up. Faitelson was calling for Almeyda's head the other day.
     
  14. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    From Mediotiempo stats: Pulido only scored 7 goals last season; 5 in league play and 2 in Liguilla. Pizarro was in second with 6 goals followed by Zaldivar with 4 goals. Overall it was an average goal scoring production, even teams that did not make the playoffs scored the same amount of goals.

    Not counting on Pulido obviously hurt the team but we shouldn't overlook the fact that Almeyda has not been able to get the most out of his other attacking players. Either it is his system of he is not playing them in their best positions.

    I would not like to care either but there is no way around it -- JLH has been in control of the club since he booted the De la Torres. He is the one that negotiated with Grupo Pachuca, brought the likes of Almeyda and Pulido, and even went to the FMF meeting to vote for Televisa to have the national team broadcasting rights [backstabbing GP]. Vergara has pretty much stayed out of the spotlight.

    Missing Pulido, who only scored 5 regular season goals last tourney, has really hurt the team. Imagine having a player that would of been able to scored those goals. How many defeats would of been ties or ties been wins by now?

    Chivas should have just brought back Gullit Pena. He did after all score 7 goals in his first season with Chivas. A veteran midfielder to take over Salcido's role would have also worked well for the club.

    This is from June first of this year: Santiago Hirsig, representante del técnico, ha confirmado a el diario mexicano El Financiero que el entrenador seguirá al menos seis meses más en Chivas.

    How would you feel as team owner/manager if your DT, who still has 3 years left on his contract, is negotiating with other clubs? Then follow this up with a sh'te season. Why would you have so much patience for someone that wants to leave and is just waiting for something better to come along?
     
  15. Phenom

    Phenom Member+

    Apr 9, 2007
    Oregon
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I tried to tell everybody but no...ya'll wanted him back. You know who you are.
     
  16. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    I was always against Salcido with the NT and I think he's old and should be as hyped but he was the best defender in the superclasico imo.

    The fact of the matter is that Chivas just doesn't have that good a squad. People talk about how Chivas is a big team and it can spend a lot of money but it spends a lot because their only mexican policy means teams just sell them the players at above what they should cost. The team won the title because of the liguilla but their best attack was with Pulido and Zaldivar doing well. Pulido has been injured and Zaldivar has been pure shit. I think Almeyda has overachieved with a team that is good but nowhere near the top teams. If Chivas doesn't start producing players at a huge level, they will suffer because they just don't have the market wit their Mexican only policy than those big clubs who are throwing money around like those Monterrey teams and can get a lot more for their buck.
     
  17. El_LatinLover

    El_LatinLover BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 27, 2007
    The Poorside
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    1st point: Yeah, like I said when your top scorer goes down you know we are in for a long haul. Lulz, Almeyda has not been able to get the most out of his players? He won us a championship, and you are complaining he can;t get the most out of his players? That's laughable. Mexico does not produce goalscorers, dude.

    2nd point: What player would have gotten us those goles? Pulido cost us 15 mil. Who else you got that we would have been able to buy? Please. Be realistic in this. Gullit? Dude, be serious here. Your points are becoming a joke with you saying Gullit would have helped. When he was here he didn't help. A vetran midfielder? We have Gallito. You are delusional wanting another vetera defensive mid. ALso, on Higuera: he's a joke.

    3rd point: So, you want to fire Almeyda? That is what you are saying. Dude this is where people can see how delusional you are. You are...literally saying, "Why would you have so much patience with a coach who just won you a championship?" Dude, at least try to hide the delusion and lack of logic.
     
  18. El_LatinLover

    El_LatinLover BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 27, 2007
    The Poorside
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Salcido has been our best player(at least defender) these last two games. When Salcido got subbed out this last game, they scored 2 goles on us. He's on his last legs, but be objective about this one.
     
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  19. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    I should have been more clear...out of his strikers. An example: with Chepo as coach Bravo had an excellent season and became the clubs all time goal scorer. Using that same example La Chofis was sidelined but won a spot in the first team under Almeyda whilst Bravo suffered. Darwin at Ame is another good example...he seemed like a lost cause until Piojo came along.

    Hugo, Hermosillo, Pelaez, Blanco, Borgetti, Bravo and Oribe would like to differ...

    Gullit is capable...

    More like $20M and out of the clubs desperation and the players broken relationship with Tigres.

    Yes, he is a national team caliber player.

    He was our leading scorer the first season. Overall, the way the player was negotiated and handled wasn't ideal.

    And what other player at his level...team depth is important. As for JLH...he is in charge of Mexico's most popular club. He deserves credit.

    No, but he wants to leave. So, I won't hold on to a coach that no longer wants to be here.

    Not with a coach that just won a championship but that made it clear that he wants to leave and not finish his contract. And He benefited from Pulido acquisition and shite referee mistakes.
     
  20. El_LatinLover

    El_LatinLover BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 27, 2007
    The Poorside
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    #4120 El_LatinLover, Oct 21, 2017
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2017
    All replies are in red except the last reply, which I will answer here on your last comment. You contradict yourself again. You will not fire a "coach that just won a championship" but then say you will fire a coach that won a championship. Lulz. Now you credit our championship on Pulido and ref mistakes...but wait, if Pulido was a reason we won a championship, wouldn't that mean that ALmeyda aprovech and got that out of Pulido? Yes? No? Which is it?

    Wow.
     
  21. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    There is no contradiction. I simply pointed out that Almeyda wants to leave.
     
  22. El_LatinLover

    El_LatinLover BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 27, 2007
    The Poorside
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    No you didn't. "Why would you have so much patience for someone that wants to leave and is just waiting for something better to come along?"<--this is not just pointing out he wants to leave. You know that; I know that; everyone who reads this knows that.

    Oh, and I love that that's the only thing you have to comment on. Maybe you are learning something. I am glad you saw reason not to continue defending your other 9 or 10 non-points.
     
  23. Neymadres

    Neymadres Member+

    Jan 29, 2013
    So CaL
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I hope Almeyda stays dude is a solid coach. One shit season and we have peeps asking for his head. We still have Concacaf Champions League next year as well :thumbsup:
     
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  24. El_LatinLover

    El_LatinLover BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 27, 2007
    The Poorside
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    I think he will be out when the femex offers him the job for qatar '22. It's in his clause that he could/will leave for a national team--specifically Arg or Mex.

    Yeah, it is retarted that some want him out when he is still the champion coach.
     
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  25. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
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    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    which concerns me. this team is thin again going into another season of 2 tournaments
     
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