Racism...Forever?

Americans being online dicks about a topic like this (or not considering it a topic that deserves better than dickishness) is part of the America I'm referring to along with the earnestly conservative posters on the given link.

Of course, this is the Internet and not all those dickish posters are American, so there's that.

 

They aren't? I thought the court could appoint them, whether they wanted it or not?

 

Not a lawyer, so maybe they can.

In any case, I can't imagine a judge appointing a Jewish lawyer and an Indian lawyer to represent this defendant. Maybe it's a list --next man up, or something-- but I'd sure try to accommodate the defendant's assumed wishes in advance. Just find him a White lawyer up front and assure the lawyer he won't be blamed for doing his best.

This is the kind of bureaucracy that would make me take my name off the list. I'm not going to defend this man for money, sure as shit wouldn't do it for free.

 

You only need to do this if you have a faulty memory.

 

FYP

 

Just an FYI. Looking at the tuition costs of Transy (35K) and where this guy is from (Harlan County...poor even by Ky standards) it's a safe bet this guy had scholarships or came from money.

 

Probably a descendant of Mags Bennett...

 

It is part of the process of getting certified to practice before a court, isn't it? And it seems to me that I've read something to the effect that judges keep a rough tally of the load that each lawyer is carrying and tries to hit the guys without so much on their plate? Though I don't think it is the same in all venues.

And I don't see any reason why the ethnicity of the lawyers should be a consideration for the court simply because of Roof's preferences-- the responsibility of the court is to see that he is competently represented, not to cater to his prejudices. If these guys are up next, or not busy, or whatever, he gets them.

But it has been a long time since fifth grade civics... maybe somebody else here actually knows...

 

Kind of weird, but a stereotype is a stereotype.

Manchester United fans urged to stop singing racist Romelu Lukaku song https://t.co/zF3KdxdFY6

— JoelBiden (@JoelBiden) September 19, 2017

 

Well, I suppose it could be argued they're quite clearly not representative of any given community, by definition, because the vast majority of people DON'T comment on published articles, do they. They're an incredibly small subset of a much larger group.

It's a bit like the old advert about, '8 out of ten people who expressed a preference...'. Not the same thing, is it.

Whether the much larger group is better or worse, that's another matter.

 

Isn't the point about lawyers that they don't 'defend' the plaintiff, they 'represent' them.

I understand it may be considered a conceit but it's an important point IMO. So it's reasonable to represent someone regardless of who they are so justice can be seen to be done. In that way we prove we're better than murderers like that arsehole.

 

Man U's blackness this season is certainly being noticed. I've read several comments and jokes already.

The fact that they're doing great is certainly keeping most of the abuse at bay so far. Just gotta wait until they hit a bad stretch for the real gems to come out.

 

Can't say.

This isn't a typical case- it's a hate crime. He doesn't want them to defend him (he's a defendant, that's all I meant) in the same way he didn't want his victims to live. The lawyers would probably pass, given the chance. I see no problem reassigning.

I'm surprised nobody with real legal training has been here yet to help us out.

 

I cannot comment about South Carolina, but Judges generally can appoint counsel and counsel has to come up with a pretty compelling reason to refuse. It happens way more frequently in smaller or rural jurisdictions, but I have been "appointed" in Cook County, IL a few times, particularly for elderly clients. However, since I work in legal aid (specifically representing low income seniors and people with disabilities), that is not a surprise. We have had a couple of recent situations where the senior would not even qualify for our services, but if the judge appoints us, we will serve.

I have also been asked to stay in court after I have withdrawn from cases as an "officer of the court"...in case the judge has questions about the case from which I had just withdrawn.

Finally, the ethnicity of the lawyer should have NO bearing whatsoever on whether or not that lawyer should be appointed. I think if the judge decided to pick and choose the lawyer based on ethnicity, that would be a major problem.

 

Wow. I checked the Prem table two days ago, but that was the first time I'd looked for anything related to other leagues* so I'm just now hearing about this... Googled the lyrics

"Romelu Lukaku,

"He's our Belgium scoring genius,

"He's got a 24 inch penis,

"Scoring all the goals,

"B*****d to his toes."

Part of me is like, "Yeah, that's gotta go..." and the other part is convulsing on the floor in laughter. I'm not sure I can get too worked up about that one, other than it might lead to much worse stuff if the bolded happens.

*Man, having a top-flight team so close is totally new to me and it's taken up most of my footballing time. Now that I have AUFC/MLS, I get what that guy in the Fight Against Modern Football thread is talking about. I couldn't care less right now about how the big clubs are doing ATM. I'll check in on everything else soon enough, but having a dog in the fight just matters a lot more, even if it's a small dog in a small fight.

 

No, this is not the case at all.
There is really no "certification" to practice before a state court.
In most states, one graduates from law school, passes the Bar Exam, passes the Multi-state Professional Responsibility Exam (ethics exam) and passes a "character and fitness" review and then is sworn in to the practice of law (usually sworn in by the Supreme Court of the state).
Once that happens, one is allowed to practice in any state court in that state.

I am licensed in Illinois and have practiced in about 6 or 7 different counties.

There is a requirement in federal court that one is sponsored (even though I have 15 years of practice, I had to be sponsored this year, as I had not practiced in federal court previously).

This might happen in really, really rural jurisdictions, but not in a major locale at all.

 

Well we know some stereotypes that have proven out:

There's just one Wayne Rooney
His drunk driving is kinda looney
He's a mick
Can't drive a stick
And he might end up a toonie

 

Two things to note here:

1 - the wholesome, All-American smile and look of the girl on the left as she casually holds a racist sign at a pep rally.

2 - you'll inevitably find a Trump sign or MAGA hat at events like this all over 'Merica.

The massive assholery unleashed by TrumpCo in the past couple of years is astounding and who knows how long it'll last. Why if I was a billionaire I'd be funding antifa groups all over the place.

 

When a teenage kid does something stupid assed, that does tell us a whole lot about the parents.

 

Why is bellend blurred?

 

Sometimes the kid manages to go stupid on his or her own (or more likely, under the influence of friends) but that's a lot less common than carrying parental stupid into the next generation...

 

Tote up all the stupid I did in my high school, and you'd think my parents were complete idiots. And I was a good boy, all things considered.

Perhaps you're saying this is a different kind of stupid, that hanging around with people brandishing Hispanic-bashing signs is a different and more meaningful level of stupid than getting drunk and driving dad's car into the curb (raises hand), or getting stoned and driving on the sidewalk at 2 AM (raises hand). I don't know, maybe.

 

There are a lot of ways to be stupid. More ways than we can count. And given human nature, there will always be those who innovate. It's all here in this classic book...