The Other Teams Thread

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  1. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    VAR sure does have a thing for Inter. How many calls/non-calls have gone in their favor now and we're only in week 3.
     
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  2. scirea6

    scirea6 Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    And yet the inbred c*nts are still claiming that there's a conspiracy favoring us...
     
  3. scirea6

    scirea6 Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    I know it's only three games into the new season, and that their entire backline/team still have to gel and will probably improve significantly, but...

    Goddamn this was fun to watch. Even if they do improve, I'm so gonna bask in the schadenfruede while it lasts. Especially after the peelanisti mocked us after the Super Coppa. This is nothing less than those c*nts deserve.
     
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  4. juventino13

    juventino13 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2005
    Caribbean
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    So satisfying watching Milan get their shit kicked in.
     
  5. IcEWoLF

    IcEWoLF Member+

    Juventus
    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bonucci really improved that Milan defense.:rolleyes:
     
  6. scirea6

    scirea6 Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Especially after all the shit they talked throughout the summer and after the Super Coppa. Motherfuckers have been all talk and no walk for years now.

    You'd think that they'd have learned by now to actually win something before they started talking shit about other clubs, but obviously not.
     
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  7. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    And one new one in particular.;)
     
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  8. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Napoli has more penalties in today’s game than Juve have this short season. Their first was the definition of soft. But remember, we get all the calls.
     
  9. scirea6

    scirea6 Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    And still, they've won jack dick for all these years...

    That's why they need to believe that we get all the calls. It has nothing to do with truth. Even when they're shown objective statistics that demonstrably prove that we don't get all the calls they claim we do, they still refuse to believe it; or they just dismiss them outright because they don't wan't it to be true.

    Because if they admit that Juve don't win because of favoritism, they're also admitting that Nipoli lose because they are inferior to Juve. If Juve only win because of official favoritism, then Nipolitani can still convince themselves that they are our equals, and would have the silverware to show it if not for conniving referees.

    But if they admit that Juve don't get all the calls, then they have to admit that Juve win because they are simply, inherently better. And how f*cking useless is a club that can't win anything despite the soft calls that Nipoli enjoyed today? Really f*cking useless.

    Which is exactly what Nipoli is, and their pathetic fans know it, but will never admit it.
     
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  10. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    LOL at Inter getting another , ahem, "soft" penalty to save their azzzes.

    But we get all the calls!

    What is going on with VAR?
     
  11. phat

    phat Viking

    Feb 13, 2006
    Montreal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Var is destroying the sport slowly but surely.
     
  12. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    VAR has been terrible in Serie A so far, how many times has it helped Inter this season?
     
  13. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    There is more inconsistency now that there was before it was introduced.

    They need rules like they have here on when a call can be reversed, nit simply impose the opinion of the VAR ref on the filed ref.
     
  14. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    I see Moratti is coming back to Inter supposedly buying back shares from Thohir.

    And now they are after our President again with more trumped up charges.

    Now VAR saving Inter bacon week in and week out.

    I smell a rat!
     
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  15. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Although VAR was not used to make the call (it appeared that the ref may have gotten confirmation of his call), it influenced it. The defender was stupid extending his arm but Eder ate it up in the dive. I think the ref lets it go except now that he has someone looking over his shoulders, he makes the questionable call. Refs are inconsistent in the NFL & that same uncertainty will creep into our game because of video review.
     
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  16. Italy-Azzurri-Fan

    Nov 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Guys the ref signaled a penalty even before he checked VAR.
     
  17. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Read my post.
     
  18. scirea6

    scirea6 Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    I know I'm probably getting ahead of myself, but I'm really excited to see Mattia Caldara at Juve next season.

    Atalanta "only" played Crotone today, but so far it seems like the young defender has continued right where he left off last season. That's the kind of maturity and development you want to see from a defender at his age. Further evidence that his talent is genuine, and last season wasn't just an aberrant year of good form from a player the rest of the competition was unfamiliar with.
     
  19. IcEWoLF

    IcEWoLF Member+

    Juventus
    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like Costa is being sold and going back to Madrid for about 55 mil... not bad. Chelsea didn’t work out for him and he had some injury history.
     
  20. scirea6

    scirea6 Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    I'm starting to wonder if it wasn't a mistake for us not to have sold Bonucci years ago.

    It's still far too early in the season to make sweeping judgements, but up to now it's like watching the player we saw under Del Neri. How much of his quality was (is?) determined by the players who flank him and the team's defensive system?

    Is he, on his own, a world class defender?

    Obviously, all CBs are aided by systems and teammates, but a team should not have to play one formation and one formation only (the 3-5-2) in order to get the best out of a truly world class defender. I'm starting to really question if we should have sold him 2-3 years ago, even if he was considered "the best defender in the world" at the time, which would have allowed the squad to evolve, tactically.

    Because so far all his donkey performance have done is to highlight that he's nothing without Barza/Chiello/Gigi and Juve's tactical system, just like his first season under Del Neri.
     
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  21. Italy-Azzurri-Fan

    Nov 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I really wonder this to. I mean look at the mistakes he made vs Real Madrid in the final? He was at fault for Ronaldo's first goal actually. He also made numerous mistakes for the Azzurri in the Euro 2016 qualifying campaign.
     
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  22. scirea6

    scirea6 Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    And that's the thing. He's always been defensively error-prone, and we've known that since we first signed him.

    Our formation and tactical set-up had to be constructed in part to compensate for Bonucci's defensive liabilities. Did we stick with the 3-5-2 for so long because, at least in part, that was the only way to get the best out of Bonucci? And did Bonucci's problems with the management start when Allegri began to adjust and change the formation, so the club could tactically evolve, especially in Europe?

    I don't know, but based on what all parties have said to the media regarding Bonucci's departure, it seems that it was around the time when Allegri started to seriously push for a change in tactics that Bonucci began to feel less and less "important" (boo f*cking hoo) to the club, until being sent to the stands sent the player over the edge.

    If that's true, the timing can't be a coincidence. And again, if that turns out to be true, then the biggest mistake the management made regarding Bonucci was not selling his ass sooner than they did.
     
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  23. thinredline10

    thinredline10 Member+

    Juventus
    Apr 2, 2017
    I dont understand why they did not just add another 2 refs and put them right next to the goalkeeper sticks, that way you have a pair of eyes right there like how the NFL has their refs under the uprights for field goals.

    Note: There would not be a ref on each side of the goalie, just one ref at one goalie box and the other ref on the opposite side of the field next to the other keeper's sticks.
     
  24. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    The NFL with all their refs and umpires sets of eyes still can't get it right and their replays prove it.
     
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  25. thinredline10

    thinredline10 Member+

    Juventus
    Apr 2, 2017

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