News: Revolution Fire Jay Heaps

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  1. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

    Feb 16, 2000
    Woburn, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Would be shocked if Tom Soehn isn't named the interim coach for the rest of the season.
     
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  2. Feldspar

    Feldspar Member+

    Nov 19, 1998
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Finally.

    I'm sure Soehn will be in charge the rest of the season. But it was a necessary move regardless.

    Burns next.
     
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  3. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

    Feb 16, 2000
    Woburn, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Followed immediately by Brian Bilello.
     
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  4. Feldspar

    Feldspar Member+

    Nov 19, 1998
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Baby steps. Getting Burns out is probably a fantasy as it is. (Regardless, it wouldn't happen before season's end. We'll have to be patient.)
     
  5. Doublecard

    Doublecard Guest

    Well, if this plays out, I might actually watch a game again. Just to see how the players play differently. A lot more needs to be done, but this would be a start.
     
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  6. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

    Feb 16, 2000
    Woburn, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Screw baby steps. Name an interim Team President and clean freakin' house.
     
  7. Feldspar

    Feldspar Member+

    Nov 19, 1998
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm for it, but I ain't holding my breath.
     
  8. Soccer Doc

    Soccer Doc Member+

    Nov 30, 2001
    Keene, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unless they have someone already lined up and ready to step in.
    Rather than an interim from the current coaching staff I'd rather have the new coach be in place before the end of the season so he can evaluate what he's inherited before the off season starts

    "Gio S, your car and driver are waiting at the curb{
     
  9. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Brad Feldman's turn
     
  10. MrSangster

    MrSangster Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Duxbury,MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Burns baby burns
     
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  11. nsa

    nsa Member+

    New England Revolution
    United States
    Feb 22, 1999
    Notboston, MA
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    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Where's the neg rep button when you need it?
     
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  12. nsa

    nsa Member+

    New England Revolution
    United States
    Feb 22, 1999
    Notboston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #HeapsOut - mission accomplished

    #FireBurns - TBD
     
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  13. Andy_B

    Andy_B Member+

    Feb 2, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting that this happens right on the day where an article comes out saying that Arthur Blanc's management of Atlanta is embarrassing some of the other owners like Kraft...
     
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  14. Andy_B

    Andy_B Member+

    Feb 2, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So who would be an inexpensive coach we could hire?

    I have heard Gio Saveresse's name being tossed around on twitter. That would likely fit the minuscule budget the team has for a coach.
     
  15. REV IT UP

    REV IT UP Member

    New England Revolution
    United States
    Jul 12, 2004
    San Francisco
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can't tell if wanting Brad fired or promoted to coach ;)
     
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  16. Brian in Boston

    Brian in Boston Member+

    Jun 17, 2004
    MA & CA, USA
    One down, two to go. Bilello and Burns also have to be shown the door, ASAP.

    The President, General Manager, and Head Coach of the New England Revolution have ALL been equally culpable when it comes to "blowing smoke" and making excuses for the piss-poor performance of this club... and for far too long.
     
  17. pwykes

    pwykes Member

    Apr 18, 1999
    Auburn, MA
    About time - that took way too long. Agree that this should be the first step in a thorough house cleaning.
     
  18. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Firing Heaps is like changing clothes on the manikin in the window unless Burns goes too. The new coach be it Soehn, Llamosa, Ralston or Vinnie Boombatz they will all be hamstrung by having an incompetent in charge of signing players
     
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  19. NFLPatriot

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    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Corroboration from Brian O'Connell:
    http://nesoccertoday.com/?p=46768

    After losing 7-0 in what was built up as the most important game of the year, after getting 3 red cards and a mass confrontation warning in the last 2 games, the Revs almost had no other choice.

    Glad they finally made the move, let's see what comes next.
     
  20. BrianLBI

    BrianLBI BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 7, 2002
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was about time. That said, thanks to Jay for his part in getting us to 2 cup finals. If he lacked a few things as head man, it wasn't dedication or passion. Good luck to him.
     
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  21. VTSoccerFan

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    New England Revolution, Vermont Catamounts, NCFC
    United States
    Jun 28, 2002
    Cary, NC
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From the article....

    With Heaps gone, the pressure will now be on general manager Mike Burns to help turn things around for an organization with a widespread reputation for frugality, unpopular treatment of players and a dismal track of player acquisitions. Burns has been the team's general manager for the past six seasons — he was named to the position at the same time Heaps was hired as head coach — and was the vice president for player personnel for four seasons prior to that. Burns will now be tasked with appointing the team's first new head coach since 2011.
     
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  22. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    They can, no doubt, do better than Burns, but the squad he has provided to Heaps is capable of much, much more. A lot of what Burns has assembled is "too little, too late", but there is quality (finally) in cdef, dmid, gk and pretty much all of the attacking positions.

    What we don't have:

    - young, developing players who will turn into MLS players
    - real quality depth
    - a serious playing opportunity for bench players (i.e., loan programs that work, a USL team, etc.)
    - real quality, two-way midfielders
    - a world-experienced, take charge player who will inspire his teammates to a world-class mindset (most MLS teams now have at least one)
    - Latin-American players: how can an MLS team in this day and age not have any? And, don't give me the child of Leominster, he's as American as Andrew Farrell.

    The answer to the LA player question is that the coaches the Revs have hired (Nicol, Heaps) haven't known how or been able to coach the acquisitions they have gotten. So, in my mind, the first thing I want in a new coach is someone who understands Latin-American play and and players and how to utilize them in MLS competition.
     
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  23. VTSoccerFan

    VTSoccerFan Member+

    New England Revolution, Vermont Catamounts, NCFC
    United States
    Jun 28, 2002
    Cary, NC
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is a good list of what we don't have/can be improved. I would like to add scouts/a more mature scouting department/organization.
     
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  24. a517dogg

    a517dogg Member+

    Oct 30, 2005
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    The rumormill says Greg Andrulis is being interviewed for the position. Currently head coach of George Mason (2-12-2 last season). Former assistant (5 years) and then head coach (4 years) at Columbus Crew (a period of time when they won absolutely nothing). That'd be a real puzzling hire to me.

    Hopefully they consider more guys on this list: https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/08/30/sabetti-10-coaches-who-would-be-good-fit-mls
     
  25. goussoccer

    goussoccer Member+

    May 23, 2001
    Avon, CT
    That quote is from a Goalusa article here: http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/sources-heaps-out-as-revolution-head-coach/stj4ykfssiiq1htrj2716mhhw

    What is INCREDIBLE about that quote is that all the bolded stuff is about Burns!! How does firing Heaps address any of that!!! And Burns is the one tasked with turning it around. The author of the article really hits the issue on the head, seemingly by accident.

    I read an article in the New York Times (of all places) about how American owners of Premier League teams in England have had a tough time of it. It reminded me a LOT of the Krafts, here's the quote that hit me the most:

    "In soccer, U.S. owners outsource the running [of the team] to people who seem to have the right experience. The problem for many American owners - especially at first - is in establishing who, exactly, that might be."

    Article here: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/16/sports/soccer/premier-league-american-owners.html?mcubz=1&_r=0

    In reading about how MLS started and the lack of understanding of the soccer culture of most of the American owners, and seeing how the Revs are run, this just seems to all fit the same model here. Firing Heaps may have been necessary, but not firing Burns means nothing will really change.
     
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