The assignments for Week 28 of the 2017 MLS season: 09/13/2017 Atlanta United v New England Revolution Mercedes-Benz Stadium (7:00PM ET) REF: BALDOMERO TOLEDO AR1: Gianni Facchini AR2: Jeff Muschik 4TH: Marcos DeOliveira VAR: Ted Unkel Vancouver Whitecaps v Minnesota United BC Place (10:00PM ET) REF: DAVE GANTAR AR1: Ian Anderson AR2: Canada CSA 4TH: Drew Fischer VAR: Juan Guzman 09/16/2017 Atlanta United v Orlando City Mercedes-Benz Stadium (4:00PM ET) REF: JAIR MARRUFO AR1: Frank Anderson AR2: Corey Rockwell 4TH: Allen Chapman VAR: Edvin Jurisevic Vancouver Whitecaps v Columbus Crew BC Place (7:00PM ET) REF: SILVIU PETRESCU AR1: Oscar Mitchell-Carvalho AR2: Anthony Vasoli 4TH: Alex Chilowicz VAR: Matthew Franz Montreal Impact v Minnesota United State Saputo (7:30PM ET) REF: TED UNKEL AR1: Brian Dunn AR2: Peter Blaciunas 4TH: Nima Saghafi VAR: Geoff Gamble FC Dallas v Seattle Sounders Toyota Stadium (8:00PM ET) REF: HILARIO GRAJEDA AR1: Nick Uranga AR2: Andrew Bigelow 4TH: Daniel Radford VAR: Guido Gonzales Jr Chicago Fire v D.C. United Toyota Park (8:30PM ET) REF: ISMAIL ELFATH AR1: Kermit Quisenberry AR2: Phil Briere 4TH: Sorin Stoica VAR: Kevin Terry Jr Sporting Kansas City v New England Revolution Children’s Mercy Park (8:30PM ET) REF: JORGE GONZALEZ AR1: Jose Da Silva AR2: Ian Anderson 4TH: Alejandro Mariscal VAR: Jon Freemon Colorado Rapids v New York City FC Dick’s Sporting Goods Park (9:00PM ET) REF: CHRIS PENSO AR1: Jeremy Hanson AR2: Danny Thornberry 4TH: Younes Marrakchi VAR: Drew Fischer Real Salt Lake v Portland Timbers Rio Tinto Stadium (9:30PM ET) REF: ROBERT SIBIGA AR1: Kevin Klinger AR2: Mike Kampmeinert 4TH: Ricardo Salazar VAR: Dave Gantar LA Galaxy v Toronto FC StubHub Center (10:30PM ET) REF: KEVIN STOTT AR1: Jeffrey Hosking AR2: Adam Garner 4TH: Baldomero Toledo VAR: Henrik Karlsson San Jose Earthquakes v Houston Dynamo Avaya Stadium (10:30PM ET) REF: ALAN KELLY AR1: Cameron Blanchard AR2: Jonathan Johnson 4TH: Baboucarr Jallow VAR: Christina Unkel 09/17/2017 New York Red Bulls v Philadelphia Union Red Bull Arena (1:00PM ET) REF: JOSE CARLOS RIVERO AR1: Logan Brown AR2: Peter Manikowski 4TH: Marcos DeOliveira VAR: Mark Geiger http://proreferees.com/2017/09/12/mls-assignments-week-28/
Two VAR reviews in Atlanta vs. New England, both resulting in red cards. The first was a challenge with studs to ankle, reviewed and red card given. Second was a handling offence in the box where the defender took a risk by lunging forward with his arms straight up. Toledo was screened at the wrong moment and didn't call it. VAR triggered, PK awarded, and a red card for DOGSO, as the keeper wasn't between the posts.
hi Bradley The dog so-h call is impossible to argue, and I'm not sure why baldomero didn't have it without VAR. Thing is, when you lunge forward with one leg, your arms naturally go up and out. So, the defender's hands aren't really in an unnatural position.
Looking at the replay, Toledo was staring through the body of another attacker at the wrong moment. That's the only reason he missed it. It looks like he *suspected* it, but wasn't sure.
Both good and proper uses. But with the way NE came out for this match, it didn't make things easy! Two other early cautions plus a penalty. I will say that VR is not helping to curb dissent, which is unfortunate. Toledo also correctly reassigned a caution prior to a restart--the first Atlanta one. Seemed like something VAR would catch but given the signal wasn't shown and Toledo was looking to the technical area, got to assume it was the 4th who helped unless we hear otherwise. At the beginning of this process, didn't Webb or Walton say that VAR would likely change a decision once a week or so? Maybe twice? I need to find that quote.
Toledo has already given 10 red cards this season. He has to be on pace for some kind of record. What is the most red cards given in a single season by an MLS referee @ManiacalClown
Encodenated for easier scrolling... Code: REGULAR SEASON 1996: 4 (Frank GOROG) 1997: 6 (Rich GRADY) 1998: 7 (Rich GRADY) 1999: 6 (Rich GRADY & Noel KENNY) 2000: 10 (Noel KENNY) 2001: 7 (Kevin TERRY) 2002: 6 (Kevin STOTT) 2003: 5 (Alex PRUS) 2004: 6 (Alex PRUS) 2005: 6 (Terry VAUGHN) 2006: 5 (Brian HALL & Kevin STOTT) 2007: 8 (Baldomero TOLEDO) 2008: 10 (Baldomero TOLEDO) 2009: 11 (Baldomero TOLEDO) 2010: 7 (Jair MARRUFO & Alex PRUS) 2011: 7 (Jasen ANNO) 2012: 10 (Mark GEIGER) 2013: 12 (Baldomero TOLEDO) 2014: 9 (Edvin JURISEVIC) 2015: 7 (Chris PENSO, Sorin STOICA, & Ted UNKEL) 2016: 7 (Chris PENSO & Baldomero TOLEDO) PLAYOFFS 1996: 2 (Joshua PATLAK) 1997: 1 (Rich GRADY & Kevin TERRY) 1998: 1 (Tim WEYLAND) 1999: 2 (Ricardo VALENZUELA) 2000: 1 (Rich GRADY, Brian HALL, & Paul TAMBERINO) 2001: 3 (Ricardo VALENZUELA) 2002: 1 (Gerry CORRIE, Brian HALL, Kevin TERRY, & Ricardo VALENZUELA) 2003: 1 (Brian HALL) 2004: 1 (Michael KENNEDY)* 2005: 2 (Terry VAUGHN) 2006: 1 (Hilario GRAJEDA, Michael KENNEDY, & Abbey OKULAJA) 2007: 2 (Baldomero TOLEDO) 2008: 1 (Jorge GONZALEZ & Jair MARRUFO) 2009: 1 (Jorge GONZALEZ) 2010: 2 (Kevin STOTT) 2011: 2 (Alex PRUS) 2012: 3 (Mark GEIGER) 2013: 3 (Mark GEIGER) 2014: 2 (Ismail ELFATH & Armando VILLARREAL) 2015: 1 (Mark GEIGER) 2016: 1 (Robert SIBIGA) *Also the only red card given in an MLS Cup final So the answer is apparently 12. Baldo's chasing his own record. Also of interest: in 2012, the year Geiger had 10 reds, Toledo only had 1 in 21 games, a career low.
Chris Wattam was AR2 in Vancouver last night. The "glitch" seems to be fixed going forward for MLS matches, however. I suspect you'll see Rudolf's and Barrie's names on the PRO site the rest of this year for their VAR assignments.
Simply a great referee. The way he issued and managed those first two cautions was really world class. Should be shown in clinics. Probably the best or second best referee MLS has ever had. Stott probably should get the nod due to sheer longevity.
Never really thought about it--at least not recently--but in retrospect Toledo was probably the right guy to push for WC 2010. He would have done well in CONCACAF, at the very least. And if guys like Brizio Carter and Rodriguez were liked by FIFA, then he was a natural for that sort of spot.
https://web.archive.org/web/2007092...vento=1055&ano=2007&dv=1&flt=A&id=7&slangab=E Didn't Toledo go to the Copa America in 2007 in Venezuela and did one game? I think he should have been pushed as well, but it was just bad timing with everything. The '06 mess with Hall and Stott where where it allowed two Mexicans to go was always going to make it an uphill battle for an American to go to South Africa in 2010. Also, during that between '06 and' 10, MLS was at a real low point and on the bring of collapse. Didn't have a lot of credibility. It also didn't help that Toledo got his FIFA badge in 2007 so he really wasn't able to go through a full WC cycle. There was also the fact that Jair went to the Olympics in '08 and did fairly well and that he was the Chosen One of US Soccer. He was younger and they thought he could go to multiple World Cups. I think Toledo is a really good referee who kind of got squeezed between the sides. The timing was not right at all for him. Just the way it is in international refereeing. Similar to what could happen between Elfath and Villarreal. Both good referees, but probably only one will have a chance at the World Cup.
Yes. Marrufo also got his badge in 2007, though. So while age might have been a factor, the length of time on the FIFA list wasn't. Right, but he was chosen for 2008 precisely because he was on the radar for 2010, not the other way around. Right, I agree with all this. Marrufo was the longer-term bet and probably the smart move politically in 2008. I'm just saying in retrospect, Toledo might have been the better choice. Hindsight is not 20/20 here, but still speculative. Maybe Toledo does well enough to get to 2010 or to set himself up for 2014--in which case the Geiger rise to the top probably doesn't happen. Or maybe he fails for 2010 and then USSF moves onto Marrufo and Geiger, anyway. No real way of knowing. Also don't forget that Terry Vaughn went to the U20 WC in 2007 so, if anyone had a leg up when WC2006 ended, it was Vaughn. Things just didn't go his way and they moved onto Marrufo. Maybe, though it seems or seemed pretty understood that Villarreal starts as the 2022 WC candidate. If he performs, it seems like it would be hard to displace him. But as the Vaughn-Toledo-Marrufo battle from 2006-2008 shows, things change.
Both active VAR situations I'm aware of thus far--penalty in Montreal and red card in Kansas City--seem like good, accurate and relatively effective uses. Impossible to argue against the ultimate decisions. More importantly, impossible to say they are inconsistent with anything we've seen thus far. I think if VR sticks around we should reach a point where the VAR is capable of simply telling the CR both calls needed to be changed, thereby cutting 45 seconds or more from the process. But we aren't there yet and those aren't the instructions right now.
Is it even worth linking the garbage that is the play of the week? I grow more disillusioned by the week.
Yeah...so many things wrong with what they said. I'll take a stab. While, a no foul call can be defended and understood. The defender did a get a touch on the ball, I don't understand how they can say any contact is purely "incidental." The defender's cleat clearly makes contact with the attacker's foot/ankle. It is clearly a foul and probably a reckless foul at that. Anymore force and you can argue a red card for SFP. If they want to defend Marrufo not calling a foul there, I can understand, but I think they are wrong. The other aspect saying that if a foul was called and that it shouldn't be DOGSO is unbelievable. Are they serious? Everyone in the stadium would expect a red card in that situation. It's clearly DOGSO. Just terrible. I think one of the fastest players in the league who sprinted the length of the field would be able to get to that ball. Oh, then they praise Marrufo's fitness. He was no where near the play. He comes into the clip well after the challenge was made. It's not a knock on Marrufo there. No referee in the world would be able to keep up with that play. It wasn't great fitness and positioning as to why he made that call. It was simply Marrufo not being sure of a foul and knowing that if he calls the foul, he has to produce a red card. It was him managing the game like he always does to not give a red card. Not great fitness and preparation.
A no call is absolutely defensible, all things considered, especially since it was consistent with the rest of the calls, but I'm getting pretty tired of the gaslighting from Rejer. My big issues: First, no one is going to make me believe Marrufo wanted input from F. Anderson on this call unless there was obviously no ball contact. That's simply not the way that Marrufo officiates. Second, claiming that there's no possible DOGSO because the tackle got ball before man is just awful. If the tackle is a foul, then it's a foul from start to finish, not because it did or did not win the ball, but because the tackle itself was careless, reckless, or using excessive force. Getting a poke on the ball before cleaning out a guy on a break does not and should not get you out of the full punishment for the foul tackle unless there's obviously a separate foul, say tripping, after an otherwise clean tackle. That was not the case in this situation.