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Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by Zidane05, Jun 22, 2017.

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  1. iggymcfly

    iggymcfly Member

    Jun 20, 2014
    It's a common misconception that players have a "value" that they're worth. It's all about what their worth to each team. If you're Man City or PSG and you have endless oil billions, then any move you can do to improve your team without running afoul of FFP is a good move. Just because those players wouldn't be worth that amount to someone else doesn't mean they're not worth it to City. I feel like it's actually smart that City took their positions of weakness and just paid what needed to be paid to upgrade them rather than making a random splashy signing here or there. I feel like these moves make them very comfortably the best team in England and probably 4th or 5th worldwide depending on whether PSG's summer moves actually go through.
     
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  2. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Still not convinced about their CBs and central midfield. Those are the areas that needs major upgrade if they need to stop leaking too many goals. Gundogan is good but too injury prone. Dont have a proper DM. Stones looked clueless last year. Chelsea is still the best team for me.
     
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  3. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    It was the same last season. They made the most transfers getting some of the best players available (not counting Bravo) and they still failed while on paper they had the best squad.

    Conte is a better coach and has a more structured and balanced team.
     
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  4. Raumdeuter

    Raumdeuter Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    Texas
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    If I'm city, I will buy van dyke. They only have 3 CB and Kompany is one of them. That means 2 CB which are Otamendi and Stones. 2 very unreliable defenders.

    They also need 2 left backs. As Clichy and Kolarov are gone.

    A lot of poor squad planning in the Pellegrini days left them with 4 full backs over 30yrs. The position that does the most running in modern football.

    Last season city was the 17th oldest in the EPL

    Most of the buys under Pellegrini have been totally useless. Bony Jovetic Negredo, Navas Sagna Mangala Otamendi Sterling Fernando
     
  5. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Kompany is the most overrated central defender i have ever seen in my life, along with Benatia.
     
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  6. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Correct. It's like i'm saying, if Manchester City would be the best football as a sport had to offer, i wouldn't pay a cent to watch it.
     
  7. Hsain85

    Hsain85 Member+

    Mar 28, 2006
    Bahrain
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    They need a world class CF who scores lots of goals. A player like Lewa would be a huge upgrade.
    Yeah they leak too many goals, but so did we last season. Guardiola's style would make most defenders look clueless, unless you have a midfield of prime Xavi and Iniesta.
     
  8. yoanaidarov

    yoanaidarov Member+

    Real Madrid
    Bulgaria
    Sep 29, 2014
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Bulgaria
    Aguero and Gabriel Jesus have plenty of goals in them, buying a CF should be their last priority. They need a CM, a CB and a LB.
     
  9. Hsain85

    Hsain85 Member+

    Mar 28, 2006
    Bahrain
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Neither is elite. Last season they didnt much trouble creating chances. They couldnt finish them off. Aguero should be allowed to leave and be replaced by a better finisher.
     
  10. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    I thought Pep did that last summer - CB: stones, CM: Gundogan
     
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  11. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Gabi Jesus will be alright. In the few games he played he was really good, then he got injured.
     
  12. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    He's the best player the club signed since they got money, along with Silva.
     
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  13. xRamos4

    xRamos4 Member+

    May 14, 2015
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    City get Bernardo Silva for €50M but pay €60M for Mendy? Who is running the negotiations over at Monaco? They sold themselves extremely short on Silva IMO, was a steal in this market.
     
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  14. MaxY

    MaxY Member+

    May 24, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    How isn't Aguero an elite striker? The guy has 122 goals and 36 assists in 181 apps for City in the EPL. Won EPL twice with city. The year that they bought him,they won the first title in decades. Golden boot 2014/15. 253 games for City,169 goals, 51 assists in total.

    For most of the seasons he's in top 4 scorers even with his shitty playing time.
     
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  15. Hsain85

    Hsain85 Member+

    Mar 28, 2006
    Bahrain
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Aguero is not half as good as he used to be, especially in scoring goals.
     
  16. MaxY

    MaxY Member+

    May 24, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Ok.
    25 goals in the EPL, top 4th scorer. Had 800+ less minutes than Lukaku and Sanchez who are 2nd and 3rd.

    [​IMG]
     
  17. Hsain85

    Hsain85 Member+

    Mar 28, 2006
    Bahrain
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I believe he scored 20 only, and statistics could be nice but never tell the whole story. Anyways, I am not interested in an extended argument about a club like Man City, and they don't seem to be after a striker anyways (other than Mbappe's rumors maybe).
     
  18. MaxY

    MaxY Member+

    May 24, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Yeah it's 20, 5 in the UCL. Well tbh Aguero's only purpose is to score, not really to link-up or provide assists so stats are pretty much a good measurement of him.

    Pep argues with you, he doesn't rate Aguero that highly. Gabriel Jesus will replace him,sooner or later. The guy is a beast, started 6 games as a ST, 5 goals and 2 assists.
    Premier league stats: 651 mins,7 goals ,4 assists.That's a goal/assist every 59 mins. Unreal.
     
  19. Hsain85

    Hsain85 Member+

    Mar 28, 2006
    Bahrain
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    To elaborate (on stats don't tell the whole story), who is a better goal scorer, Ronaldo or Cavani?
    If we were to take stats alone, Cavani is the better goal scorer (I know, French League is easier - CL stats say the same). They don't tell that Cavani would ******** up much easier chances than the ones Ronaldo misses, on average.
    Once again, ******** Man City ... hope they fail to win any title next year, but they could use a better goal scorer for sure ... IMO.
     
  20. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Guardiola has spent over 395M euros since joining in 2016... LMAO

    1) John Stones - 55,60 Mill. €

    2) Leroy Sane - 50,00 Mill. €

    3) Gabriel Jesus - 32,00 Mill. €

    4) Ilkay Gündogan - 27,00 Mill. €

    5) Nolito - 18,00 Mill. €

    6) Claudio Bravo - 18,00 Mill. €

    7) Marlos Moreno - 5,50 Mill. €

    8) Gerónimo Rulli - 4,70 Mill. €

    9) Oleksandr Zinchenko - 2,00 Mill. €

    10) Kyle Walker - 51,00 Mill. €

    11) Bernardo Silva - 50,00 Mill. €

    12) Ederson - 40,00 Mill. €

    13) Danilo - 30,00 Mill. €

    14) Douglas Luiz - 12,00 Mill. €
     
  21. CivilProtection

    CivilProtection Member+

    Jul 6, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    It was 50 + 20 in add-ons for Silva.
     
  22. madridismo

    madridismo Member+

    Feb 28, 2007
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Pique just posted a picture with Neymar on his instagram saying 'Se queda'; he's staying. Hmm.
     
  23. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Messi deleted all pics of him with Neymar out of his instagram account.

    By the way i do think Neymar will stay, most likely because the club will obey to every demand of his, even if it means buying friends for him. They can't afford to lose him.
     
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  24. libertao

    libertao Member+

    Mar 15, 2006
    Couldn't see any Madrid games for distance and timing reasons, but just saw PSG vs. Tottenham in Orlando -- $90 for front row seats around 1/3 of the way along the pitch. Brilliant value, highly recommend these matches to fellow Americans here. Made me miss ADM.
     
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  25. yoanaidarov

    yoanaidarov Member+

    Real Madrid
    Bulgaria
    Sep 29, 2014
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Bulgaria
    Why are Man Utd playing so rough ? It's a preseason game you inbred morons.
    EDIT: Wrong thread.
     

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