this would be a really interesting move. All of his talk about coming to RSL was about getting closer to home. Last I checked, the Czech Republic isn't closer to LA...
this is both really cool and really weird to listen to. I'm not sure how I'd like someone in my office having a show talking about my performance over the past week. Granted, professional sports are nothing like the real world professions, but it's still just... weird.
Hopefully they would take a chunk of salary too so RSL can have some to go after another striker. Is there any way right now that RSL can free up his DP slot without actually moving him to another team? If a loan team took everything over the cap max, is he still on the books as an RSL DP? I don't even pretend to understand the DP rules. GUess it depends on what LA/Seattle/NYC, etc feel like they need this week.
Only because it is Beckerman. Anyone else, no, but the league leader in fouls, not going to happen. The PRO ref guide sez "Give Beckerman a card every game. If you don't know why, he will."
KB5 was going to get a yellow. Toledo was trying to gain control of the game - which he had completely lost. Portland was incensed at already being down a man and RSL being awarded a soft (although completely legit) PK. Had Adi not completely lost his mind and reacted violently at KB5's chicken wing, there would have been just one card handed out - a yellow to KB5. But when Adi went ballistic, Toledo had to send Adi off. And he didn't want to lose even further control of the match by putting Portland down two men. So he showed KB5 red as well. The MLS DisCo probably saw the spit by KB5 and decided to keep the red in place for that reason. Now they don't have to rescind a red and show up a ref for making a poor decision.
I'm sorry, but if that's a red, then I assume the DisCo went back and gave a couple Portland players a game suspension. There were 2-3 times where we took an elbow/forearm to the face with nothing given. If KB's is a red, then those offenses would have to be multiple game suspensions for being worse, right? Oh wait, it's the MLS, the only thing they're good at is botching something that should be easy. It'll be fun when VAR goes into full effect and they continue to still make/uphold incorrect calls.
But the ref was Baldermo Toledo, the very definition of a ref who makes bad decisions. Rescinding the red card should be business as usual for him.
I'm disappointed. . . Disappointed that kb5 has sit out next game for a red card because Kyle did not get his full red card potential for him. He has been red carded for some violent head-butts and other violent condect. But this ... he is really let himself go ... or its still a bad call
Sorry folks, but Kyle got a red card for a attempt to injure another player with his elbow. shit a player from the opposing team just got sent off minutes before for a similar challange. Beckerman needs to be smarter than do Bullshit like this.
I think you are assuming this is Yura's decision. I assume it most certaintly isn't. Rumors say half. Can you show us the elbow to the head from Kyle? Which was Arboleda's offense, and a definitive red card. I certainly didn't see one. According to referee the sending off was for violent conduct. Violent conduct has a specific definition under the laws of the game. "A player is guilty of violent conduct if he uses excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball." I've watched the replay over and over and don't see how this was the conclusion. To be honest, this truly seems baffling. I hope an explanation from the "independent committee" will be forthcoming.
This is a head scratcher. I'd love to know if there is a "rest of the story" or if this is just an amazingly bad call and DisCo had too much pride to reverse it. Was there a prior warning? Did he say anything to the ref? Because the reason given is "violent conduct", this seems less likely. I'm not making excuses for Beckerman. Doing something he usually excels at, incidental contact was made to stop the progression of the play. I can see critics saying that "contact was made" and "he threatened an opposing player," and maybe even "he's the most fouling player in the league - let's send a message." However, these critiques seem pretty soft because the punishment should be consistent and should fit the crime. Beckerman's chicken wing received the same punishment as Adi and Arboleda's assaults. Really? What's indisputable is that this was a poorly officiated game, and the ref lost control. As a result, Beckerman was made a scapegoat (or "escape goat" as Karl Malone would say) so Timbers wouldn't go down two men. The most disappointing thing is that DisCo had a chance to fix it, everyone knows they screwed up, and they upheld a ridiculously obvious bad call. It's hard to fight a perception of DisCo not being fair with RSL with this kind of nonsense going on.
Beckerman did not deserve a red card. The committee did not want to go against the ref. In the video he did not raise his arm to the face at all. How bout the Portland player that used his knee to hit our player in the back and got a yellow,. So many times Kyle will not get cautions but straight yellows. The refs do have it in for him. Go back to the game where the suspension committee did nothing on the Monday tape but two days later gave him a game suspension for nothing. The Portland RSL game was one of the roughest game I have seen . If Portland players do not get more game suspension, will show that they have it in for RSL more than other teams. It has to stop.
LOL. There's no way they will ever publish the 3 reasons, which are by order of weight: 1. Baldo is one of our most senior officials. Most of his decisions are wrong. If we overturned every bad card he issues it will look bad for PRO and the league. 2. Beckerman has been in the league a long time and has horribly cursed out all of our officials and shows total disrespect most of the time. There is no way a card against him will be overturned. 3. A home player had just been red carded and the entire stadium was going nutsoid over Toledo's consistently terrible calls during this game. Toledo was absolutely correct in sending off a visiting player at that particular time. IF an explanation is issued it will be: From Toledo's vantage point he observed Beckerman 'intending" to hit the opposing player with his elbow. "Intent" is justified in the regulation for showing a card, whether or not the player actually succeeds.
VC does not have to be to the head - to the head is an interpretation that, in our current era focuses on head injuries (appropriately!) - but can be a slide tackle, a strike with the arm or fist or elbow, not playing the ball in any way really. And - essentially - the action does not necessarily need to land as intent can be enough. On that standard, I see the red as only a bit harsh. He is clearly doing more than the standard grab and slow down; he is extending his elbow to strike Adi, and only Adi getting out of the way means the blow did not land. It's dumb IMO, and even a grab would have been dumb, as Adi is headed towards his own half with the whole defense back.
How is this ever a legitimate reason? Who gives a shit if the fans are upset, that should have no bearing on any resulting calls. How about Toledo be disciplined instead? If he's consistently bad, he shouldn't be protected by PRO, and if he doesn't improve, should be fired. It's ridiculous to say that this red was the right call due to his other bad calls throughout the night, and because the fans were upset.
There were far worse incidences in the game alone to even try and justify KB's red. If that's a red, then there were multiple game suspension fouls that weren't even carded. If KB's is a red, you could send off half a team for routine challenges where they go in hard.
It's NOT legitimate. I'm voicing my perception that there are unwritten rules of thumb that referees follow. I think these circumstances were a factor in the referee's decision...but the league and PRO will never list it. On a related note I observed similar circumstances in the recent tournament in Russia where VAR was being tested. The VARs who reviewed plays would not overturn a referees decision if they felt that the referee was in a good position to see the play...even if the video replay clearly showed the referee got it wrong. It leads me to believe that when VAR becomes the norm, its going to be quite frustrating for a while because the referee fraternity are going to protect their brothers.
Fair enough. I must've read into it the wrong way. It's going to be a hot mess if they try and protect referee decisions when they're clearly wrong. I wonder if there was the same type of problems when other sports started using instant replay. It just seems like something that everyone would want done correctly. I doubt a ref is happy with making a wrong, so you'd think having VAR to ensure a big call is correct, would be welcomed.
I concur. Even the announcers were pointing it out. They didn't color it as a bad or negative thing, but they noticed it.
I'm more than confused by those of you defending the ejection of KB. That is the definition of a professional foul. It's textbook yellow card. If we're going to start saying something like that is "violent conduct" then any tackle could start to fall into that category. It's fine to disagree, I just see a really slippery slope here.
I wouldn't defend an ejection for a grab there, or a shoulder charge, or a "normal" tackle, but the way he goes in with his elbow - I can see it being interpreted as a strike, which is violent conduct. If he had reached out for a grab, then that would be different and I would not in any way expect a red card - that's a professional foul. And I am not sure we're actually defending it as much as expressing an understanding of why the call was made and upheld. A strike - elbow or fist - is different.
that is normal contact in a game. Watch 5 minutes of a CB and FW battle for position while away from the ball. Watch the box on any set piece in an attacking position. Watch a player shield another player off the ball. Hell, watch an aerial battle from a goal kick. It's all the same motion. This "raised elbow" argument I've seen float around, and what you allude to hear, tries to isolate this incident as some rare part of the game. As though players don't use their arms for balance and body position. It's not. What KB did was use his arm to slow down the play. It's not like he punched Adi. He didn't tackle or clothesline him. PRO ********ed this one up, that some of you want to look at it sideways to justify an answer is baffling to me.