Thinking Ahead to 2019

Discussion in 'Women's World Cup' started by thegamesthatrate, Jul 15, 2015.

  1. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    They venue were disclosed yesterday actually :

    Grenoble Stade des Alspes 20 068 places
    Le Havre Stade Oceane 25 181 places
    Lyon Parc OL 59 286 places
    Montpellier Stade de la Mosson 28 037
    Nice Allianz Riviera 35 624 places
    Paris Parc des Princes 47 929
    Reims Stade Auguste Delaume 21 628 places
    Rennes Roazhon Park 29 778 places
    Valencienne Stade du Hainault 24 936 places
     
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  2. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank you!
     
  3. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Note : Montpellier is a charming City but the stadium is in the middle of suburb in the rough area, as soon as the game is finished, it is better to head back to the city straight away.
     
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  4. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
    Norway
    Club:
    Fredrikstad FK
    I was in Montpellier when Norway played there in the men's World Cup back in 1998. It wasn't too bad, but may be the problems have increased over the last 20 years.. :unsure:
     
  5. FawcettFan14

    FawcettFan14 Member+

    Mar 19, 2004
    Colorado
    I just did a quick Wikipedia search for the stadiums. A few old ones, but most built within the past 10-15 years. They look like great venues. Crowds should be better than Canada due to Europe's more central location (and being, well, Europe; Canada doesn't have the greatest soccer tradition). And I can't say enough how much the grass pitches will make a positive difference. A few of them have artificial fibers mixed in with natural grass, but nothing similar to the awful plastic turf from 2015, with the awkward bounces and rubber pellets flying everywhere.
     
  6. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I expect big support for the home team, plus many supporters from the playing nations.
    I think most of the French people will buy the stadium passes, where you get all the games from one ground at a slightly discounted rate.

    The women's football culture is still growing slowly in France as it really started to be recognized by the mainstream media from the WC11 QF against England. There are some good numbers for the Champions League games and NT games but the League numbers are still very small.
     
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  7. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    shlj, I really appreciate the info. As you learn more, I hope you'll post it here.

    I think another reason attendance may be better than in Canada is that France is vastly smaller in geographic area. Fans who wanted to attend games at multiple venues in Canada had to make major trips, many requiring air travel. I'm thinking that in France, we'll be able to rent a car and cover all the venues relatively easily. (Canada is, very roughly, 8 times the geographic area of France.)
     
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  8. Gilmoy

    Gilmoy Member+

    Jun 14, 2005
    Pullman, Washington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The aspect ratio matters, too. France is VGA, Canada is WQHD :p
     
  9. Thomsen

    Thomsen Member+

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    I'm looking forward to this tournament :thumbsup:
     
  10. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which means people would be more willing to stay at home and watch on TV in Canada than in France because of better display resolution?:unsure:

    Seriously, though, I'm looking forward to a great event in a great host country!
     
  11. Thomsen

    Thomsen Member+

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Last World Cup in Canada, the 3 top ranked teams: France, Germany and USA ended up in the same half to the final - winning their groups were no advantage at all. I don't remember 100%, but didn't FIFA rigged it for higher attendance or something? I hope this doesn't happen in France :thumbsdown:
     
  12. Gilmoy

    Gilmoy Member+

    Jun 14, 2005
    Pullman, Washington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, FIFA pre-assigned seeded teams to cities before the draw. Their group assignments were still random, and the rest of their groups were random.

    Yes, after France and Germany were randomly assigned into their groups, at that instant it was "obvious" that if they both advanced in 1st, they'd meet in the QFs. (But they traveled for that, which trashes any accusation that FIFA could script the QFs "for attendance".)

    Only one person on BigSoccer kept calling it a conspiracy ;)
     
  13. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I seem to remember who this person was! :laugh:
     
  14. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    #39 shlj, Jun 21, 2017
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2017
    You can also travel with the high speed train the TGV between main cities, it is quite quick, but slightly expensive. Looking at cars, the biggest distance in travel is Le Havre to Nice 1123 km and Valenciennes to Nice 1128 km. An 11 hours drive. Motroways speed limit is 130 kmh by the way.

    I'm checking average attendance for clubs last year over 11 home games and I have done it for the National Team for the last 11 home games as well from September 2015 to June 2017, our average is 13 706 with lowest 7 521 and highest 24 835 in Rennes a Stadium that will be used at the World Cup.
     
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  15. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    #40 shlj, Jun 22, 2017
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2017
    Here are the 2016/17 League numbers by decreasing order

    Lyon average 2087
    Guingamp 1290
    Bordeaux 860
    PSG 693
    Soyaux 667
    Albi 576
    Rodez 524
    Juvisy 502
    OM 406
    Metz 383
    ASSE 271
    MHSC 244

    And Champions League home numbers for OL and PSG

    OL : 5 089, 3 841, 14 128, 19 214
    PSG : 612 , 1 645, 12 000, 19 192
     
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  16. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Official tournament dates : 7 June to 7 July 2019
    Obviously early enough not to clash with Le Tour de France and the French Open at Roland Garros
     
  17. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Ouch, I was hoping for something a little later in time :x3:: the beginning of June is not a good enough time for me to set myself free from work commitments... July could be good instead, but what if my team doesn't reach semi-finals/finals? :cautious:

    I hope there will be enough games scheduled in the week-end: France is close enough for me in Northern Italy to imagine traveling through one or two week-ends, just to watch games without necessarily staying continuously in France should I have to keep working during working days. Of course, in that case, I would prefer the games of my interest being played in Nice or Lyon, than in Le Havre or Rennes! :x3:
     
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  18. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France





    Group stage 7 to 20 June
    Last 16 22 to 25 June
    Last 8 27 to 29 June
    Semi-finals 2 and 3 July in Lyon
    3rd place play-off 6 July
    Final 7 July Lyon
     
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  19. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
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  20. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Please, make Japan play in the South-East of France!
     
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  21. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    I second that!
     
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  22. WWC_Movement

    WWC_Movement Red Card

    Dec 10, 2014
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Papua New Guinea
    You get the feeling that Hope Powell might be coaching in this tournament.
    June 7 to July 7.
    Hmmm, in 2015 it was from June 6 to July 5.

    Therefore, this time around, there is one extra day.
    I wonder where the extra day of rest will come into play?
    Between the group stage and the Round of 16?

    [​IMG]
     
  23. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    You can read the previous posts and compare with the Canada scheduling :)
     
  24. WWC_Movement

    WWC_Movement Red Card

    Dec 10, 2014
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Papua New Guinea
    Thanks.

    Apparently the Group Stage is the biggest difference.

    In 2015, it was from June 6 - June 17.
    In 2019, it will be from June 7 - June 20.

    An extra two days worth.

    On most days in 2015, there were 4 games each day during the Group Stages.
    Well, there are 36 Group matches, and in 2019, there will be 14 unique days (June 7 - June 20).
    It appears they will probably have 1 or 2 matches on the opening day/night, and then 3 on most days through June 20 (there may be two days of no matches, i.e. rest, in the June 7 - June 20 stretch).

    Unless they have a bunch of days of rest in between, there's just no way the math comes out to 4 matches per day (like in 2015), because of the extra two days this time.

    [​IMG]
     

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