Copa Libertadores 2017

River with another 3 points to take complete control of the group with 3 more points than Independiente Medellin with a game in hand.

Tonight was not easy and our goalie had to make some key saves, but in the Copa in away matches, the result is the only thing that matters.

Who are the three favorites right now? River, Palmeiras, and Mineiro? Maybe Nacional could do something. Maybe Flamengo. But there isn't one team out there I think as a River supporter I'd be afraid of. Right now I'd think we'd be favorites against anyone, the only real question will be if we are able to keep our team together during the European summer and to see what other teams gain/lose

 

Dejo esto por acá

 

I consider your team to be Brazil's strongest candidate this year. Credit to Eduardo Baptista for switching the formation from a 3-4-3 to a 4-1-4-1 from which your team's players dug out a memorable win in very hostile territory.

Other than Chapecoense, who as we know is rebuilding (and was humbled in Uruguay by Nacional 0-3 last night), all Brazilian teams are contenders. Botafogo is a mature and hardened team; they shouldn't be underestimated. And as Grêmio demonstrated with its 4-1 win over Guarani, it too must be taken seriously.

River Plate is the only Argentine team who looks like a bona fide title contender. Veron's return may have been emotionally positive for Estudiantes fans, but at over 40, there's only so much he can do to make his team dream of a repeat of 2009.

 

Although I'm a fan their biggest rival (who are the better club too ), I agree only because it's very difficult (virtually impossible) for them to have the second leg at home throughout the knockout rounds, if they were to get out of the group. Otherwise, they'd definitely be a club to be reckoned with; could have very well been the darkhorse of the tournament.

 

A video shot from stands shows the very last seconds of the match at Peñarol in which Felipe Melo was attacked and assaulted.

From this angle, we see that there is a last-minute play which knocks down a Palmeiras player. The referee blows the whistle and Felipe Melo immediately raises his arm in victory, but he is actually walking AWAY from the Peñarol players who had mostly been in their team's own box. Then Peñarol players start the fight.

A Peñarol player actually grabs Felipe Melo's jersey and violently pulls it, forcing him to turn, but Melo does not retaliate. It is here when Peñarol players converge on Felipe Melo and from there, he has to throw a punch in self-defense as Peñarol demonstrates the same absence of class it demonstrated against Flamengo in 1999 and against Grêmio in 2003.

Peñarol is ghetto. And remember, there is always "revancha," as it is said in certain countries neighboring mine. Peñarol will one day visit Brazil again for another cup match - don't be shocked if you are treated the way Tigre's equally foolhardy players were treated when they stupidly attempted to attack São Paulo players a few years ago.

There are fools who only learn through a beating. Peñarol needs perhaps more than just one.

 

Their malandragem is to them "viveza." They're "vivo." They aren't cunning or conniving... they're just endowed with hustling abilities and those who are suckered are fools.

 

On the other hand, if I was CONMEBOL I would also suspend Melo just so he learns to shut his idiotic mouth. This imbecile ONLY opens his mouth to provoke. He put his own safety and his fellow teamplayers at risk.

 

Tim Vickery talking about Uruguay at beginning and end of the video

"Uruguay is a mistery to me. It´s the most civilized country in Latin America, but somehow, football brings the worse in them"

in the end he talks about how the natural loss of quality in Uruguayan football due to the low population of the country results in this violent spirit. In the moment clubs do not have any more quality, the only thing remaining is the "warrior" spirit, and when that is not enough inside the pitch, it explodes outside it too. And warns Brazilian football about that too.

 

Oops! Looks like you and the rest of the bvllshitters have egg on their faces again... What a surprise!
Stop with the same old BS already... Nobody believes it anymore... We know who you are...The makako racist crap doesn't work anymore. So just stop with the fake outrage... It's gotten old.
So the Peñarol barrabravas are a bunch of crack addicted pieces of sh1t... Tell me something I don't know! So are your barrabravas... And everybody else's. And all of them are killing football in South America.
And everybody knows that Felipe Melo was always a piece of sh1t and now he's an old piece of sh1t.
So as I said, stop your BS, we know who you are and what you are, you're just as bad or worse than we are. Your little game is up.

 

Tim Vickery is clueless. He just happens to be the only English journalist in South America. Uruguay is very nice, Punta del Esta, Jose Ignacio, etc. are beautiful beaches, but the majority of the people who go there are rich/upper middle class argentines and white brazilians.

The rest of Uruguay has villas or "shanty towns" or "favelas" like the rest of south america, filled with black uruguayans, bolivian, peruvian descended people. There is ramped crime in Montevideo, worse than Buenos Aires statistically. I don't know what this Vickery is getting at. One of my best friends is uruguayan, a nacional fan obviously as we all know the that peñarol supporters are villeros and of african/native descent, and he left Montevideo because of the crime.

The northern suburbs of Buenos Aires, where I live, are like living in Europe. Just like Punta del Este, La Barra, Manantiales, and Jose Ignacio. I know uruguay well, its a country I love, but to call it the most civilized in South America is an insult. All south americans have european descended people who are educated, sophisticated, and civilized, and other people who are the opposite... Argentina just happens to have the most of these people, followed by Brazil, the only two countries in south america with a serious middle class

 

So the Peñarol barrabravas are a bunch of crack addicted pieces of sh1t...

Were you paying the slightest attention, you'd realized we were talking about the nonsense behavior by the players of Peñarol.

Fica quieto, uruguaio.

 

Again, we know who you are, you're not fooling anybody anymore with your faux outrage.

 

The "faux outrage" did not go unnoticed by CONMEBOL, which while imperfect, still has the authority to levy sanctions. The Uruguayan squad loses 3 players for 3 games plus possible punishments such as suspension from intercontinental cups for at least 1 year.

Both Peñarol and Palmeiras are going to appeal this, but this is the least Peñarol deserved for its barbaric actions.

 

What's next? Isis like? Hitlerian?
The Palmeiras holocaust?

 

Talking to you is like playing basketball with a team which thinks that it can score point by putting the basketball on its own net... as it is, menino.

 

Botafogo may have underestimated Barcelona after tying 1-1 in Ecuador, but it got a painful reminder tonight that no team can be taken lightly. Barcelona has some very fast players.

Atlético Nacional finally showing some of the fluid football it displayed to conquer the continent last year. Estudiantes looking unlikely to reach the round of 16, but it still has a mathematical chance - which is more than can be said for Peñarol, which was eliminated tonight by Atlético Tucumán.

 

A number of peculiar results this week.

Palmeiras and Grêmio both lose their unbeaten streaks in this Libertadores, and Palmeiras has its third consecutive 3-2 scoreline - and the first that it lost.

San Lorenzo showing signs of life after bad results early on with a surprising 3-0 win in Curitiba. Atlético Paranaense needs to regroup fast, or it may regret those 2 late goals it allowed Universidad Católica to score in its first match for a long time.

Speaking of the Chilean team, Flamengo wins 3-1 - that guy who stole a camera in 2012 after Boca Juniors was defeated by Corinthians in the finals is still playing?

Atlético Mineiro with a rout in Bolivian territory and now awaiting a showdown at home vs. Godoy Cruz in a match which may determine who wins the group - a win or draw vs. Libertad tomorrow relegates Atlético Mineiro to second place.

I wonder if the Brazilian team, with Robinho, Fábio Santos, and Fred (all formerly in Brazil's NT - the last guy doesn't bring me great memories other than 2013), is currently in what will be the final stretch of a competitive Libertadores run that started in 2013. It has certainly done well so far. And as for Godoy Cruz, good for this club from a small town - only their 3rd-ever Libertadores and they may win its group. If they'd been in an easier group in their 2011, they probably would've reached the round of 16.