Different eras Teams were more physical back the. So lebron would get beat up by the knicks and pistons etc Works both ways
I'm not totally sure I agree. Warriors are very talented but Jordan had to go through a beast of a defensive Eastern Conference and Lebron has rarely had much meaningful opposition from his playoff runs until the finals. Jordan on that Heat team wouldn't have lost to the Mavericks or possibly the Spurs. I also think the physicality of the old era is one thing, but the lack of hand-checking is huge. After last season, I personally don't think you can debate that Lebron is probably top 3 or 4 all time and quite possibly will finish in #2, I just don't think GOAT is a debate, given what's gone down already. If he wins the next 3 I might change my mind.
Again, none of those teams that Jordan faced were even close (talent wise) to what the Warriors are. Strenght of the conference doesn't matter - put Cleveland in the West and they're still favourites to win it (without the Warriros ofc), despite it being a stronger conference and similar to what Jordan faced in the East. We're talking about a team with 4 All-NBA players, 2 of which are MVP's, the next one possibly being a DPOY and one of the best shooters the NBA has ever seen, while effecitvely being one of the 2 best all-around SG in the league. This isn't just a great team, this is likely the best we've seen since Jordan's Bulls. I think him beating that team would open up the conversation for GOAT. I think Jordan would lose a Finals series against the Spurs. Not that I'm trying to belittle him, rather I think the Spurs are just that good. Again Jordan did not face a team that has had so much continued success over the years.
I actually think Jordan's best teams would have handled this Warriors team. Pippen and Jordan had so much length and athleticism that I don't think Curry and Durant could be as dominant, and I'm doubtful the Warriors defense could stop them. These Warriors are just a little weirdly built - Curry has come down to earth a little with KD there, they don't have a ton of size, and they rely on jump shooting so much. I'd take Magic's Lakers over them. Shaq's too.
Diff teams in diff eras Teams were designed for different things Lebron is soft as fcuk thigh, look at all the flood and moaning at refs. Would he of coped with 90s aggression? Regardless it's impossible to know who would beat who
I don't see much of a problem at all with LeBron's on-court physicality and his ability to both take and dish punishment. Jordan complained to the refs too you know?
I can't agree. I put this Warriors team in the same class as the 90's Bulls, Magic's Lakers and Bird's Celtics. There's literally no way they lose. Except if James has something to say about it... Hard to compare them head to head though, like it's been pointed out, very different era's. But still, imagine Jordan beating a team with Olajuwon, Isiah Thomas, Drexler, and Reggie Miller...
Nah, the ''Clipperness'' started way sooner. Before the season even started. You know what's funny though - you'll hear morons screaming how Paul isn't great and how Griffin is overrated, yada, yada. When in fact if you look at the ''big three'', they've always performed in the playoffs. It's the rest of the guys, that have always underperformed. Redick? 2nd straight year, shooting under 35% from 3 and generally not contributing much. Don't get me started on Jamal - while he's been with the Clippers he's been shooting under (!) 30% from 3 and around 37% from the field. If Redick can contribute something defensively (not much because of his size), Jcraw is a black hole (as been proven by Joe Johnson). And you know what's even funnier? You have the option to bring both Joe Johnson to the Clippers last year, but opted to choose Rivers instead. I'm not saying Iso-Joe would've turned this season around, but man oh man... I heard a lot of stories of people actually giving up on this team - I'm talking about lifelong fans - who had season tickets for years now. I think it was Simmons that said, he used to sit near a long time season ticket holder and he wasn't there for the playoffs after Blake's injury and he asked the guy who sitting there instead what happened and they guy explained that the original ticket holder was through, that after 20 years (even the bad one's), this was the last straw.
Keep the big three (if you can that is, heard CP will resign, Griffin is market bound - if he leaves throw everything you have at PG), let Reddick walk, trade Jamal and bring in a new coach and a competent GM. Not saying it'll take them over the top, but it's a start. Beating this dead horse is useless. I think the core is great, but the surrounding cast (players, coaches and management) are useless.
Two things - I think we're underrating how good the Cavs actually are, the other thing is that a lot of things went their way last year (Draymond suspension, Curry cooling off/injured) , but in the end Lebron proved he's one of the greatest of all time. Head to head comparisons are very difficult, so saying if the Cavs could beat the 80's Lakers or Celtic's is very questionable, but judging on talent alone, I think they could (under the right circumstances). Kyrie is unstopabble as is Lebron. That team is precisely constructed to enable winning a championship.
Also 80s la destroy the warriors inside and the 89 pistons could grind them down too not to mention the 89s celtics Warriors don't deserve to be in the same bracket imo if they can't repeat
This is a team that has just started their journey - all of their stars are just reaching their peak and could potentially (if they stay together) pose a championship threat for the next 5 years straight. This is a dynasty in the making.
Reddick was such a non-factor in that Game 7. I think he's gone. Jordan was 28 when he won his first (and I'm old enough to remember everyone bashing him before that saying he was a ball hog and he would never win). Curry just hit 29 and is the oldest of the four. So yeah, argue all you want now about where the Warriors rate against Team X and Y but just know this argument is probably gonna be around for awhile.
If Doc Rivers is still the GM, I could actually see him being brought back. He'll likely get offered more by someone else, hence him being gone, but if it were up to Doc, he'd bring him back. I love JJ, but he can't be your starting SG, if you want to compete with the Warriors, Jazz, Spurs and so on.
What do y'all think of Paul Pierce's career? Surefire HOF'er but was he all that great? Feels like he's a Penny Hardaway who was pretty fortunate to have a squad that won it all. Not trying to bash the guy or anything.
Pierce was legit Great 2 way player who had amazing footwork and Compton coolness Very clutch and loyal
As a Warriors fan, I'll say this. Unless Dubs win at least another 2 rings, ain't no way they can be compared to Bulls/Lakers. Having 4 all stars on their team is nice and all, but they have to win the ring to be considered great.
@thebigman , with what you pointing out means the NBA is in big trouble and needs massive rule changes.Because there is no way the game should not be improving.No way Federer or Nadal nowadays loses to Sampras, noway would Guardiola Barcelona lose to Milan Sacchi. No way a BlackBerry is better then your today Iphone or Android.