Atletico Nacional

Discussion in 'Colombia: Clubs' started by pibe10, Jul 1, 2012.

  1. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    they are getting a new President. Any one know why De le Cuesta quit? A bigger club got him internationally?
     
  2. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    He said personal reasons but no one's buy it. Too weird for me too and too bad. He was the most successful president in Colombia for a reason.

    In the meantime the team continue to win even with the 2nd string and now we have 26 pts of 30, absolutely amazing. As soon as we secure our qualification in the league we will concentrate much more on our qualification in the Copa Libertadores.
     
  3. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Didn't had the best game vs. Chapeco and we lost 1-2, hopefully we'll fix it in Medellin. One of our main problems is that Rueda insistto put Ruiz as a 9 while Dayro as a winger. In this case, Dayro lost his effectiveness and disappeared a lot during the games. Ruiz has a good season so far, but I think that he'll do a better job as a winger while we will earn much more if Dayro will be the 9.
     
  4. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    It was a horrible game in my eyes (golazo by Torres, but sadly the only good play he had)..

    The Team only got awake after the first Chapeco goal.. and then it was only until the equalizer. Overall a very por game.

    In my eyes, Ruiz has not had a good season.. Moreno ahora flashes but it Is not a replacement for Borja. I know wr can turn it around here... But I am very skeptical of our Libertadores destiny si far.
     
  5. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    For his standards, Ruiz has a decent season so far, the problem is that it's not good enough for a team like Nacional. Dayro is a good player, but I agree that he is not the substitute for Borja. And still, with him as a 9 I believe that we can succeed. The problem is more with the wingers. Besides Ibarguen, we do not have nothing.
     
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  6. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    la IFFHS had dado en su ranking de clubes a Atl. Nacional como el mejor equipo del mundo 2016 por encima del Real Madrid y Barcela, 2do y 3ro respectivamente. Lo malo es que pusieron foto del Chapecoense diciendo que es Nacional.
     
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  7. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
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    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Lol, yes I saw that. It reminded me that in the WC 1994 draw in the US, the presented all the national teams and put a photo of Ecuador instead of Colombia. How the hell can you get confused between Valderrama & Aguinaga?

    Good for our resume, although I'm not a huge fan of these rankings. Today we have a hell of a match in Bogota vs. Millonarios. With a win we'll secure our playoff berth.
     
  8. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
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    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    We look scary. Aldo Leao wins us the game in Bogota in the 88th minute and we are with 29 pts from possible 33. Amazing. Since we already in the playoff, we can concentrate on the Copa Libertadores more and in our crucial game vs. Botafogo.
     
  9. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  10. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    After two years and a month, we lost an international match at home. Another poor performance of the team, even though we dominated the match and Botafogo scored two counter attack goals. This team of Nacional isn't half as good as the last one. Not only because of the players who left and the ones who came. but many key players of last year's team just lost form like Henriquez, Bocanegra, Diaz, Mac also was very weak tonight. Add to this two counter attacks because of turnovers by Bernal and Mosquera and you'll get the result.

    It reminds me of Colombia after the WC. too many players lost form and we couldn't find suitable replacements. Rueda also returned rusty from his vacation with bad decisions: 1. He keeps using Dayro as a winger and Ruiz as a '9', even though it worked only in one game, vs. DIM, but failed during several games. Since Dayro moved to the winger position, he stopped scoring goals.
    2. Why the hell do you keep using Bernal when you have Aldo in a good form lately and when you are playing at Atanasio? beats me! :mad:

    So yes, we lost because of our own mistakes but let's not forget that we also didn't score at home. And it's amazing the huge difference between Nacional of the league and Nacional of Int'l competitions.

    Next week we'll face Estudiantes in a live or die match for both teams. If we won't win, we'll lose chances to qualify (Botafogo & Barcelona are both with 6 points) and start to fight on our place in the Sudamericana.
     
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  11. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    This team lost its best CB, DM and all it's starting attacking players. Outside of Armani no one really that special left plus it's a pretty old team.

    Daryo alone wasn't enough of a reinforcement. Hope they finish at least 3rd to play for the Sudamericana. This team doesn't have the roster for the Copa Lib. Wtf is Najera still on this team that dude fking sucks
     
  12. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The whole Team sucked last night... I am speechless.. what a mediocre Team.

    And Mosquera should be selling empanadas at the stadium not playing winger for us.. what a waste of a roster spot. Also Dajome was attrocious.

    I agree.. why the ******** Is Ruiz playing as a 9?... He did nothing. Also, Henríquez played the worst game I've seen him play live.

    Overall i came disgusted out of the stadium...
     
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  13. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Nacional is out already..... hopefully they finish at least 3rd so they can play the Sudamericana. reinforcements just weren't up to par.
     
  14. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
     
  15. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Absolutelly disgusting!! No passion, no play... No nothing ... what an absolutelly crap team, in and off the field.

    Our substitutions were Ibargüen, Nieto, and Arley Rodríguez for Christ sake!!!!... Mosquera Is still in the first team defying any sane tought... It Is really a weak team. The replacements are not even 30% of what we had last year.

    We are all but mathematically eliminated now.

    I think the exit of our president Is just a sympthom of what is really brewing inside the team. From what I have heard, Ángel came with strong support from some people in the board of the company, and wants to have the title of president of the team in the short term. And he Is trying to climb the ranks destroying everything from within.

    It Is really sad to see this organization that was very Well built under De La Cuesta crumbling because a nobody (on the administrative side) Is having support from some higher ups at the organization :(

    I love Ángel from his playing days... But what he Is supposedly doing to the team breaks my heart.

    I will not be surprised if Rueda quits also :'(
     
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  16. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    It just shows how difficult it is to replace all those talented young players they had last year.
    That and the Group this time around was more difficult having to play in Ecuador ( a place Nacional almost never wins), a good Brazilian team and a good Argentine team.
     
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  17. SoyDelMustang

    SoyDelMustang Member+

    Dec 24, 2007
    Flushing,Queens
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    They just didn't prepare enough for the cup. Simple as that. Ruiz,Dayro,Aldo. All good players in their own right and good enough for the league but not ambitious enough to compete on an international level.
     
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  18. MiLo4891

    MiLo4891 Member

    May 14, 2007
    FLL
    Agreed.. 5 or more important guys left and no one has been able to replace them... No replacements for Berrío, Marlos, out wide... and not even what Ibarbo did as a false 9 during the group stages last year... and no one can score... Borja, Marlos, Guerra and Berrío had clutch goals...

    Lost too many important pieces...
     
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  19. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Guerra is probably the most underrated loss that no one is talking about.

    That guy played like Iniesta for most of the Libertadores last season.:p
     
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  20. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Why didn't Nacional get Quintero makes 0 sense for him to go to DIM if Nacional would have challenged for him. Macnelly just can't play by himself he is a Pecho frio unless someone is taking most of the heat off him.

    Also Daryo needs to be be a #9. Nacional just has no creative build up. Before they were attacking on the wings but they don't have that any more but still attempt it.

    Sadly no matter how rich a team in our league is. It is just too difficult to reinforce when you lost half your team and especially the best half. Only top player they kept was Armani.
     
  21. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Agree with all of you. What makes me sad the most is that we actually had a team to rule the continent in the near future and we also have high reputation but not enough money to keep these players. And yet it's still doesn't justify to collapse like that. We didn't prepare well, simple as that and didn't reinforced properly. Rueda also doesn't clean from mistakes and we also didn't have too much luck to get a group a bit more easy. Now we need to focus on the domestic titles and to try qualify the Sudamericana. I just hope that Rueda will learn from his mistakes.
     
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  22. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
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    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  23. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  24. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Could be great, I didn't know it is possible. How do I do it? Need to talk to the main moderator?
     
  25. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Why don't you talk or make a PM to Ismitje which Is a Súper Moderator?... He might help!
     

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