AllWright AllWright AllWright : Haji moving to the Coventry

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Chance, Dec 17, 2013.

  1. EricSunRa

    EricSunRa Member

    FC Dallas
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    Sep 29, 2007
    Los Angeles
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    True. Without watching him play, the statistics are the only objective metric of which we can use to describe his progress and development.
     
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  2. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    To which I would add, we would each need to watch full games in person to get a true picture, watching games on TV being a poor substitute for the real thing.
     
  3. EricSunRa

    EricSunRa Member

    FC Dallas
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    Sep 29, 2007
    Los Angeles
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    Indeed. When I bring new folks to a game, I never shut up. But that's nothing new. I'm like watch this player off the ball, watch that player off the ball. Watch the goalkeeper reshape the backline. People are like how do yo watch all of that? It comes with time. Mostly, you have to know the players on your team and the opponents in the league before really appreciating a game in person.
     
  4. Giggsy1986

    Giggsy1986 Member+

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    Great post
     
  5. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

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    The large number of assists is a change from the past.
     
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  6. beerslinger23

    beerslinger23 Member+

    Jun 26, 2010
    Right. If he is developing the vision for the game that is necessary to create then that is progress.
     
  7. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

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  8. ussoccer97531

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    Oct 12, 2012
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    Tomorrow's the final game of the regular season. They play on the road at Wuppertaler. The only way they won't make the playoffs is if they lose, Dortmund gets one point (or more) and Leverkusen gets three points.
     
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  10. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
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    AFC Ajax
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    United States
    Schalke is firmly entrenched mid-table now, safe from promotion but with Europa League unrealistic, so I'd expect to see Haji play for the first team next week, and maybe McKennie as well. If neither play that would be an example of organizational malpractice, and it's something we will take into consideration when we decide to send more players to the club or not. They are still unproven when it comes to being fair to Americans. Right now they just accepted them into their academy, just as about anybody would have.
     
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  11. ussoccer97531

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    They have the U-19 playoffs. Those are important in Germany, although next weekend they don't have a match. Its midweek then the next midweek, but I don't think either McKennie or Wright will play 3 matches in a week, and thats if they aren't on the U-20 WC team, which might take them out of consideration from all of this anyway.
     
  12. bigt8917

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    May 10, 2015
    U wot m8?
     
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  13. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

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    Wussconsin
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    Youth teams are about preparing prospects for the senior squad. They'd have done that already. Winning should be a secondary goal.
     
  14. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

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    Shouldn't be considered remotely controversial around these parts.
     
  15. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

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    I agree, I'm just explaining why that probably won't happen.

    Both of them got pretty unlucky, really.

    McKennie missed the winter training camp with an injury. Wright did well at the winter training camp, but right as he might've been about to get a chance, they signed a new striker, and then sent him back down to the U-19's. If they were still in the Europa League (like Man United) and had nothing to play for in the Bundesliga, they might've given debuts to some younger players, but they bungled their match against Ajax in the last round. If they weren't in the U-19 playoffs, there would be a better chance that these players would get a chance with the first team.

    I think the best chance for either of them to play with Schalke's first team before the end of the season is for them to not be with the U-20's for the U-20 WC (whether not called in or not released), and for Schalke to go out to Bayern in the semi-finals. If that happens, the second leg would be on a Tuesday with the upcoming Saturday being the final Bundesliga match. Its possible that if their U-19 season ends on that Tuesday that they could be given some minutes on that Saturday, if Schalke's first team has nothing to play for.
     
  16. Starman*

    Starman* Member

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    Mar 28, 2017
    So what's the plan for Haji next year? Can he even play with Schalke's U19 team another year?
     
  17. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

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    No.

    First team, loan or reserves. If they see a first team future for him, probably one of the first two.
     
  18. Starman*

    Starman* Member

    United States
    Mar 28, 2017
    McKennie is born in 98' as well. Does that mean he can't play with the U19's again as well?
     
  19. bballshawn

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    Feb 5, 2014
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    Weston can.
     
  20. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

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    If they don't see a future for him, they should have allowed him to play at the U-20 world cup--assuming they didn't.
     
  21. ussoccer97531

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    No, he can't. U-19's are for 99's and 00's next year. Nick can, the other two can't, and thats good. They are ready to move on up. They've both done pretty well this season. Nick hasn't had the best start so far, lets see if he can do better next season.
     
  22. ussoccer97531

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    I wasn't stating thats the case. I think he probably starts next season with the first team, gets little playing time, and then goes out on loan in the winter, similar to what Fabian Reese did this season. And by the way, I wouldn't be so sure he would play at the U-20 WC, if they released him. I think the lack of releases applies for most of the omissions, but I think he would've been omitted, regardless. Ramos didn't rate him, going by his words and actions. I think thats completely crazy, but I think thats the truth.
     
  23. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
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    From what people have reported and from what Tab has said ("We would have liked McKennie and Taitague"), my best guess is that

    (1) Ramos didn't ask for Wright

    and

    (2) Schalke probably wouldn't have released him if he had
     
  24. ussoccer97531

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    Oct 12, 2012
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    On the bright side of these three not playing at the U-20 WC, tomorrow gives us a chance to actually watch them play.

    10:55 AM ET is the first leg of the German U-19 Championship Semi-Finals in Munich. It'll be on German TV.

    Timothy Tillman is on Bayern's team. So that could be four Americans who will play in that game.
     
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  25. Starman*

    Starman* Member

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    Mar 28, 2017
    That's crazy that McKennie can't play with the U19's again. It seems like he barely got there this year. Or maybe that was Taitague? o_O

    I honestly have no idea what they are going to do with McKennie. It's a toss up between them putting him with the first team or tossing him with the reserves. We haven't gotten any articles recently saying if the coaching staff rates him that highly yet.
     

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