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  1. Sudžuka

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    Jan 27, 2013
    Sounds like you got a unicorn, majority of reviews are negative.
     
  2. trts

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    Yeah, seems like reliability and quality are major issues for many people.

    I'd wait a few years until they fix those issues and until batteries are better. For me personally, a Tesla wouldn't be practical, but that has to do with where I live and how much I drive for work, etc.
     
  3. podrinje

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    Depends on what your needs entail. My neighbor has a Tesla P85D ($130k) with a range of about 230-250 miles. His work is about 18 miles one way but his workplace has EV charging spaces. Thus, for his needs, the car is more than reliable.

    Having driven it a few times, I can honestly say that it's more roomy and comfortable than my 530i.

    It obviously takes many digs from people who question it's impact for longer distance travel and for good reason as the charging infrastructure is just not there yet. However, he has taken a number of trips from Silicon Valley to Vancouver, BC with the Tesla and it can be done. You just have to pre-plan your trip around the available supercharging stations.
     
  4. Sudžuka

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    Electric cars are still in the beta phase, Tesla would be way better off if they sold their batteries and technology to established car manufactures instead of building their own car.

    Biggest issue is range, like mentioned above and charging time. No one wants to wait an hour at a charging station, especially before their morning commute. Also, if you are charging your car with electricity that isn't produced from clean energy like wind, solar, hydro or nuclear power, it defeats the purpose.

    Edit: About 67% of the electricity generated in the US was from fossil fuels (coal, natural gas, and petroleum).
     
  5. trts

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    Yeah, I was listening to NPR recently and they discussed how in certain states it makes little sense to drive an electric car, from the environmental perspective. My state is among the best when it comes to clean energy, but it also has vast spaces of unpopulated areas where even gas stations are rare, let alone a charging station for a battery. But even if charging stations were more common, what's really needed is for those fast charging stations to be everywhere to swap batteries in a couple minutes to make driving a car like that more practical. So for you to have little impact on the environment, the electric car would need to be manufactured in a plant that gets its power from clean energy (if it's made in the South as there are many car manufacturing facilities in that part of the country due to lower costs, I imagine the energy comes from fossil fuels), you'd need to charge your battery from electricity that comes from clean energy (most people probably don't even know how the energy in their house is made), and then you'd need plenty of charging stations that also get electricity from clean energy (that's out of your control). For the vast majority of people, that's not possible now, even if they could afford a Tesla or similar cars. But things will improve.

    I wonder if there will be major breakthroughs in solar charging in the next few decades. Your car could constantly charge itself while driving.
     
  6. totti fan

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    Interesting discussion of the breakdown of the former Yugoslavia.
     
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  7. thedragon10

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    Any MD/PA/DPT's, etc, here?
     
  8. FCBM

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    From who ? People who can't afford teslas? I havnt met one person who didn't like theirs from all the people I've met who also have one , also proof is in the pudding given that a used tesla with 50k miles still goes for $60k ,
     
  9. bosna10

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    The last 2 months or so i started watching Jordan B Peterson(University of Toronto prof) videos and couldn't stop watching. So many professors out there who know their stuff but just aren't very good at communicating it and then you find a gem like this guy. If you watch a video or two you most likely won't stop there. He started that youtube channel few months ago with i think it was about 10K subscribers and since then he's over 200K now. Males for some reason(well it's more obvious once you start paying attention) are overwhelming majority on his channel..Interesting because in his psych class it's mostly women.

    I included the link to his channel in the other forum but here's some of the videos compiled. If you want more in depth just do a search or go to his channel.


     
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  10. Sudžuka

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    Looks like wide scale ethnic violence could happen in Macedonia. Right-wing thugs supporting the current president stormed into parliament and seriously injured the leader of the largest Albanian party, as well leftist politicians including the leader of the apposition party.
     
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  11. Sudžuka

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    Ambasador Italije u BiH se smijao tvrdnjama Željke Cvijanović

     
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  12. trts

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    Electricity is 113% cheaper than in Croatia! :laugh:
     
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  13. Sudžuka

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  14. Sudžuka

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    Serbia has been holding Bosnia back too

     
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  15. totti fan

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    He's pretty much just saying if you're poor you're lazy and stupid and if you're rich you're awesome and you deserve your success

    Watch this for a different perspective:
     
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  16. Sudžuka

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    I've seen a couple of his lectures, his one on "Global Trumpism" is very good.
     
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  17. bosna10

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    Interesting that this is what you got from it. The man literally spent 30+ years of his life thinking about these things while constantly doing research. He's basically someone in between Sam Harris(who believes everything can be explained with science) and a guy like Reza Aslan(who's mostly backing religion). I'll check out that guy above as i always like different perspective but anyways..

    This is his patreon account(dude is making 32K/month with so many backing him..lucky mofo lol). A bit of a summary on what he's about.

    https://www.patreon.com/jordanbpeterson
     
  18. bosna10

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    So i saw that video above from totti. Honestly this is what i believed for a long time as my views were more liberal. The last few years i've gone to being a lot more conservative and as Peterson would say ("sort yourself out bucko"...and i've been doing it and loving every minute) so to me above is a lot of mumbo jumbo that is made by people who think we have to be fair and allow everyone to be equal(which in theory sounds great but when you learn how people actually think and why they think a certain way you'll realize this will never happen). This is why we have constant whining especially by millennials(and that included me), social justice warriors all over the place nowadays...Yet we are in an era where we have so much less suffering, poverty has gone down by huge amounts, etc...

    I don't think i should feel guilty for wanting to keep more of my money when i worked my ass off for years(when i checked how much taxes i'll be paying for the product i'm making i almost felt like giving up..like seriously ******** off!). And of course where a lot of that will go to some guy who sits on his ass all day playing video games and collecting welfare.

    This guy above too, he comes to US to get a better education which costs a lot of money of course and now he's complaining about high costs? Why didn't you stay back in Europe and go to all of those great universities you speak of? You know the ones that are almost free. You are just devaluing education by making it easily available(what makes it so great then if it's available for everyone?).

    Anyways i'm done with the whole feeling like i need to be helping people who supposedly cannot help themselves.

    As Solzhenitsyn said, "Human being are born with different capacities, if they are free, they are not equal and if they are equal, they are not free".
     
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  19. totti fan

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    As he pointed out, he has more than repayed his debt to the US in taxes.

    If it wasn't for the Scottish welfare state it is likely that he would now either be in prison, the army, on drugs or dead. It has nothing to do with individual responsibility or equality for all. Individual endeavour without opportunity is next to useless.

    But Its also about what is in the best interests of you and I because when more individuals are productive they are less of a cost/burden on society and actually provide wealth/opportunities for the rest of us.
     
  20. bosna10

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    I don't have a problem with those in need getting some help from the gov't, in fact most countries have some sort of system to give those in need so that's fine. The thing is, they're getting plenty of help up here in Canada(not to mention even more in countries like Germany, Sweden, etc) and there's only more crying so that's kinda the point i'm trying to make. See people who are smart and hard working will always want to move higher and so you'll always have this huge imbalance(and why poor always cry about their problems being rich people's fault, the gov't fault, etc). When you realize that you are much more and that life is suffering and there's no way around it but to bear and strengthen yourself(which is what Mr. Blyth obviously realized as he went through a lot and realized that moving to a country where he can become something more is quite satisfying..probably why he wants more opportunities for others but unfortunately it's not that simple).



    Human beings are complicated and i like Peterson's lectures because i've seen some things from just the science guy perspective and it kinda lacks(seems too simplistic and ignores a lot, context doesn't seem important, etc) and of course from just religious view from a guy like Aslan(and he makes good points as well but because religion has it's negatives i can't get 100% on board with that either). Jordan does it from both views and it just comes together so nicely(not that i'm done with his lectures and think he's 100% right either). The number of people who have said that he's totally changed their life is unreal. I started sorting my life out few years back as i mentioned on here before(didn't finish Uni so ended up doing shitty jobs for a long time..blamed others like parents for giving me bad advice, getting me into debt, etc..some might remember that)..Anyways, i realized before seeing his lectures that it was me that had to change and no one else was at fault but this stuff was recommended to me by my bro and it just confirmed some of the things.

    Especially this clip where he talks about how much time you spend wasting doing shit that isn't important at all(i used to be obsessed with posting on forums btw....and not just this one).



     
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  21. totti fan

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    if he was some sort of self-help guru that would be fine but he is not. His underlying message is pushing the neo-classical economic mantra of laissez faire, greed is good, invisible hand etc etc. We've been going down this road as a society since Reagan and Thatcher were in vogue in the 80s and throughout its consistently been downhill for the middle class. If only it were that simple.
    The golden years of economic growth throughout the West from the end of WWII up until the OPEC oil crisis in the 70s were by today's standards characterised by "big" governments. We need to get back to that style of governance if we want to avert social disruption/war again.
     
  22. bosna10

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    Good luck with it, pretty much guaranteed this country will have more protests, violence and maybe worse...and will be a shithole down the road...and that's because you still seem stuck in the whole opportunity bs when you don't understand that you cannot force that on people who aren't capable of doing the same as the other guy(iq for example is something that for most part you cannot improve...certain parts like reading and writing you can, abstract thinking for example, you either have it or you don't, it doesn't improve by much when you get older no matter how much you try). I mean this has been researched already ffs.

    That's exactly what's going on in Canada where people who shouldn't be in certain positions are getting those opportunities well just because we want to be more fair. Anyways, good luck with that. But then again, in Peterson's case he hasn't had much resistance as most of those going against him have just come back with random shit like "More Genders Please", "Human Rights For All"(really in a country where you have so many rights you put up those signs? lol....Anyways, they basically have no arguments which is what you see more and more.

    What is funny is that when you look at the crowd that is protesting these days, so much is fat, ugly chicks that are basically not getting attention anywhere else so this is their opportunity to rise and be a bit more popular, no matter how little sense it makes. This is why understanding human condition is so important and realizing that you can give these people any job they want and they will still not get anywhere(and in turn will screw up rest of the country).
     
  23. Sudžuka

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  24. PureEvil

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    why isnt she in the UFC :D

    lol look at the girl in the back just casually walking like nah fuq that hoe i aint saving her
     
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