Russia 2018: News & Analysis

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Dec 29, 2010.

  1. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I mean, BBC dropped a hooligan hit job on Ukraine/Poland in advance of the Euro. The highlight of which has to be this map. [​IMG]
     
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  2. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You have to remember that Russian fans busting up France is very different from Russian fans busting up Russia. The authorities are trying to put on these Olympics, World Cups etc to show their domestic Audience that Russia is amazing and the current regime has made things so great they can host all these things. Hooligans running rampage in Rostov doesn't really fit that image.
     
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  3. Toosucio4u

    Toosucio4u Member

    Dec 11, 2013
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    If I didn't get robbed in Brazil I doubt ill get beat up by a hooligan in Russia. Either way I'm taking the risk =)
     
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  4. Southern Man

    Southern Man Member

    Jun 14, 2008
  5. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I did not forget that.
    I just had a little concern about how the fanatics conducted themselves at the last Euros. And the reason it was a tiny concern and not a big one is because of what you are saying here. You and I are thinking on the same wavelength about the Russian Authorities.
     
  6. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    More a turn of phrase that an intention to say you actually forgot :)
     
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  7. Ric_Braz

    Ric_Braz Member+

    May 13, 2009
    Wiltshire, UK.
    Club:
    AFC Wimbledon
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I am still amazed at the lack of messages on this site and others about the 2018 WC. If it continues like this then tickets should be pretty easy to come by. I tend to agree that the Russian government, as with Sochi, will make no expense spared to show the country in a good light. Not sure the Confed . Cup will be any barometer at all as so few foreign fans go. For me I have to go as definitely want nothing to do with Qatar and then it all gets silly with 48 teams playing all over the place. Still FIFA for the good of the game etc.
     
  8. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At first I was kinda upset about the Sochi coverage. Then I got to Sochi and got free tickets to like everything. Was hanging out with the athletes and stuff, doing shots with a guy with his gold medal around his neck.

    So if you are going to the World Cup next year. Enjoy every single shitty article about this.
     
  9. Sandinista

    Sandinista Member+

    Apr 11, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    Racing Club de Avellaneda
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Well, what country doesn't use a big event like WC and Olympics (summer or winter) to show itself in a good light... Liberal democracies, dictatorships, authoritarians, moderates and loonies, they all put up a big show and don't want any bad press.
     
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  10. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
     
  11. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Mutko says Russia is being squeezed for TV cash to make up for FIFA’s financial flop:
    http://www.insideworldfootball.com/...a-squeezed-tv-cash-make-fifas-financial-flop/
     
  12. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    FIFA struggles to score sponsors
     
  13. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I must say I didn't enjoy the article about the ticket prices. $165 for a category 2 group stage match? :rolleyes: And I imagine the hotel prices will be up there as well due to the lack of overall supply. It's going to be one hell of an expensive trip!
     
  14. Gibraldo

    Gibraldo Member+

    radnicki nis
    Serbia
    Nov 17, 2005
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Slightly unnoticed by public, FIFA seemed to have changed the rule on the play-offs for european qualifiers.

    After the draw, there were 2 groups with only 5 teams in. consequently, the play-off spots table were constructed for the runners-up of each group by comparing the 8 matches between the first 5 teams in the groups final standing.

    however, later FIFA adopted Kosovo and Gibraltar as full members and were filling up the groups H and I and now each group has six contenders. I asked FIFA, if the play-off table will though still feature only the matches among the top five teams of each group.

    The responded, that the rule has changed and all group matches do now count.

    Wikipedia has that table, but they count it wrong according to FIFAs answer on my mail.

    Can anyone confirm?
     
  15. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As much as I abhor rule changes behind closed doors, I really hope this is true.
     
  16. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That would make computing the second-place teams much easier, though. The current second-place standings are
    GrpTeamTriMPWDLGFGA+/-Pts
    GItalyITA5410134913
    BPortugalPOR54011931612
    HGreeceGRE5320103711
    DRepublic of IrelandIRL532073411
    CNorthern IrelandNIR5311102810
    ASwedenSWE5311103710
    IIcelandISL531186210
    FSlovakiaSVK530210379
    EMontenegroMNE521210647
     
  17. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Now, if only some results get considered, I believe that only those among the 4 best teams in each group should count (maybe even those among the 3 best teams, would be lots better yet).

    By reducing the number of matches to the best teams in each group, you get the benefit of not taking in account those results against dead-rubbers (or only among whom were closer to being 2nd) in each Uefa group, as most groups have 1 or 2 teams that are there, basicly to add up numbers to each group, where most of them don't have almost any chance in going through, and all potentially represent big score goal diferentials, which at the end may appear as decisive in sorting out a potential worst 2nd placed team, whom really shouldn't be deserve such destinity when you compare their results to some others.

    Uefa has lots of decent teams, but in total they don't count as much as 30-36 teams, while everybody else are mainly dead rubbers, where some groups get one of them in their groups, while others get 2 of them. By not taking in account results against the 2 worst teams in each group, would balance out all groups better, as those teams whom get the benefit oh having 2 dead rubbers in their groups, also get and advantage over those whom only get one dead rubber in their groups.
     
  18. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree. The reason for not counting the games against the sixth place teams in groups of six no longer exists. I don't think changing the rules is unfair because I doubt teams would have played differently based on the rules for comparing second place teams for many reasons. One reason is that a team that could win its group will want to beat the bad teams. Another reason is that San Marino always finishes last, but in some groups the last place team won't be determined until September or October, so a second place team could play both games against the last place team before that team clinches last place. Another reason is that only one second place team is eliminated. If the top four second place teams qualified, the bottom five were eliminated, and there weren't playoffs, then second place teams comparing themselves to other second place teams would be a bigger deal.
     
  19. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Moscow St Petersburg and Sochi should be okay since they have plenty of hotel rooms.

    The other cities which probably had like one or two hotels are going to be iffy. Like in Manaus where they wanted $250 for a hammock
     
  20. Penaldu

    Penaldu New Member

    FC Spartak
    Chile
    Apr 22, 2017
    I don't think there will be a lot of problems with getting rooms even in smaller cities like Saransk, Nizhniy Novgorod, Samara. Majority of fans will be based in Moscow or St. Petersburg and will be going to those other cities just for the game and back. I mean, at least it's what I would do. That's why I don't think it will be that busy.
    Also, they announced prices for the hotels in the host cities, there is a set limit for each city: http://russianblogger.me/hotels-cost-during-the-2018-world-cup-in-russia/

    It doesn't sound bad on the paper but will see what happens. I've been to the Sochi Olympics in 2014 and pricing there was reasonable. I don't think it will be different during the World Cup.
     
  21. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sochi is a major tourist center in Russia though. It has the infrastructure already In place to not be over run. Some place like samara doesn't.

    I mean it'll be okay. But it'll be like Brazil where we slept in the Manaus airport with like 50 other people because there were no rooms.
     
  22. Penaldu

    Penaldu New Member

    FC Spartak
    Chile
    Apr 22, 2017
    I really hope it won't be the case because I would really like to a few games in the smaller cities. Kazan for sure and maybe Nizhniy Novgorod - Nizhniy is very close to Moscow.
     
  23. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Those two won't be the worst. N. Novgorod is the third largest city so worst case you AIrBNB it and Kazan is pretty big and a larger destination.
     
  24. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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