Biggest Derby Game in UK

Discussion in 'England Rivalries' started by Alan D, Jan 14, 2006.

  1. AmericanJack

    AmericanJack New Member

    Oct 30, 2005
    Kansas, USA
    Club:
    Swansea City AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I pretty much agree with what has been said as far as the bigger derby games, but I'm also thinking...

    Southend v. Colchester
    Norwich v. Ipswich
    Swansea v. Cardiff
    Bristol City v. Bristol Rovers or Cardiff
    Heart of Midlothian v. Hibernian
    Portsmouth v. Southampton
    West Brom v. Wolves
    Swindon v. Oxford
    Sheffield Wednesday v. Sheffield United

    ...but to name a few. I would say it really depends on a persons view of what "biggest" means. Is it in terms of crowd size, violence, location, history, etc.?
     
  2. darcgun

    darcgun Member+

    Jan 11, 2008
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    The Old Firm, maybe then Liverpool/United, then Arsenal/Tottenham, or Newcastle/Sunderland.

    I think though "biggest" is simply the ones between the biggest clubs, which thus has the greatest media exposure. Luton Town vs. Watford has as much hate/animosity as Arsenal vs. Tottenham, but the media don't give a crap for obvious reasons, as Luton and Watford are very small clubs.
     
  3. the giant head

    the giant head New Member

    Jan 4, 2012
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Millwall FC/West Ham FC
     
  4. atlantefc

    atlantefc Member

    Jul 18, 2006
    F*dabig4neveryleague
    Club:
    Charlton Athletic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    My Charlton vs Dartford

    Come on you Addicks !!
     
  5. COYS

    COYS Member

    Jul 29, 2008
    London
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I think there's more to a derby being considered the 'biggest', than simply how much both sets of fans dislike each other. After all, don't all supporters dislike their local derby rivals?

    Other factors come into it too. The stature of the clubs involved, how fiercely contested the rivalry is, both in terms of head-to-head and both clubs importance within their country.

    For instance, regardless as to how much supporters dislike each offer, if a rivalry is heavily one-sided, or one club had numerous titles and the other makes up the numbers, then can it genuinely be considered a big derby game?
     
  6. LAred

    LAred Member

    Jan 1, 2015
    Club:
    12 de Octubre
    I've been very forunate in that I've been to the Merseyside derby , Derby Italia, Rome derby & the Old firm .

    The Merseyside derby means more to me being from the City so maybe I'm biased but the atmosphere is always incredible. But , i grew up at a time when it was the friendly derby . Reds sitting with Blues , no hassle . Then it changed after Heysel and particularly in the early 90's. I miss the days of the friendly derby to be honest.

    The Rome Derby and the old firm are two matches that I've actually felt fear in the ground. It was palpable. Being a pasty white boy i don't think i was ever in any danger in Rome as im fairly sure they knew i wasnt one of them but it was very tense and always on the point of boiling over.

    The Old firm is the best experience of my football going life. Again , the ground is just filed with utter hatred . And i cant empahsise that enough . Fair enough some people dont agree with the religious aspect and all that but it certainly adds to the experience.
     
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  7. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd agree with this. While Liverpool vs Everton would be my choice, Newcastle vs Sunderland without a doubt is right up there in terms of fiercest rivalries. I went to grad school at Newcastle Uni, lived next door to SJP. One of the first things a local told us int'l students was to never, ever wear a Sunderland jersey anywhere near Newcastle City Center. Even if we didn't care about football, it was for our own safety. Indeed, Stuart Holden, the ex Sunderland player who got his jaw broken in Newcastle city center could attest to that. I've no doubt the same warning would be issued to uni students in Sunderland as well about wearing a NUFC jersey.

    THAT sort of tribalism is what underscores a true derby to me.

    However, while much of the conversation has been about European rivalries, it's important to note Turkey's Galatasaray - Fenerbahce rivalry and Argentina's Boca vs River Plate. You can't get much more intense than those.
     
  8. Kev THFC

    Kev THFC Member

    Mar 27, 2014
    Northants
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    The old Firm derby is as fierce as it gets in the U.K, also a lot of people overlook lower league teams too, like Millwall vs West Ham, they've always had the most well known football firms in the U.K, but they don't come along as often as the others (which probably makes it more fierce).

    Premier League biggest derbys are Spurs v Arsenal, Liverpool v Everton, Manchester United v Manchester City
     
  9. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Before the Premier League began in 1992, which was basically the renaming and new trophy of the English top flight. Without doubt, the biggest derby was Everton v Liverpool.

    1991/92 season (last time champion)
    Liverpool (1990) & Everton (1987) = 27 league titles between them.
    Arsenal (1991) & Tottenham (1961) = 12 league titles
    Manchester Utd (1967) & Manchester City (1968) = 9 league titles

    But that was a long time ago. Now there is no particular derby that is "the biggest".
     
  10. darcgun

    darcgun Member+

    Jan 11, 2008
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Liverpool/Man U is the biggest derby. both see each other as their main enemy, especially since they're bigger/more successful than City and Everton.
     
  11. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Liverpool v Man Utd isn't a derby though.
     
  12. FootieJohn909

    FootieJohn909 New Member

    Manchester City
    England
    Aug 21, 2020
    It's gotta be Man City vs Man Utd! We hate each other with a passion
     

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