Will Packwood at Birmingham City FC

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  1. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    He's on a free, so I think he's available to sign outside the transfer window.
     
  2. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    He is but most clubs - unless it's Hull City or Lazio with no players and no coaches - want to have full rosters at the beginning of their seasons (which start even before the transfer window shuts down).
     
  3. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
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    Arsenal FC
    Oh for sure. Just saying that if he doesn't sign by August 31, he isn't totally out of luck.
     
  4. Gamecock14

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    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    He and Max Cream had the yanks abroad names of the decade
     
  5. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    As an unattached player the transfer window won't affect him - he can sign for anyone at anytime. The problem is, after being out for over a year, what quality of club will be interested in him? It's very strange, but at this stage it'd be reasonable to conclude that his pro career is over.
     
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  6. GiallorossiYank

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    Jan 20, 2011
    NJ/Roma/Napoli
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    United States
    No way, Mike Grella's thread at Scunthorpe was the GOAT
     
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  7. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    No, that was Sc*nthorpe.

    How quickly they forget.
     
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  8. GiallorossiYank

    GiallorossiYank Member+

    Jan 20, 2011
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    AS Roma
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    United States
    Haha Sc*nthorpe... Damn I'm getting old.

    Also a good one, Thomas Delaney, is that FCKer even a Yank???

    I'll never forget saying that outloud when he played against us for Denmark
     
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  9. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    I don't think anything beats "Woke up with Wood"
     
  10. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    ^THIS always provided me a laugh
     
  11. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Infidelity?
     
  12. Testudo

    Testudo Member+

    Jan 29, 1999
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
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    United States
    We need to set up a Kickstarter page for him. This is ridiculous. An MLS team with a USL affiliate couldn't take a flyer on a 23yo Yank with just shy of 1,500 Championship minutes & a full USMNT camp under his belt?

    It is a cruel sport sometimes. If he's not 250 lbs. this makes no sense to me.
     
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  13. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At this point it's got to be a combination of personality and/or contract demands. He's gone trial with a couple different teams since being out of contract (including mls teams) and hasn't stuck anywhere. He's either a bad lockerroom presence, is demanding too much money or both.
     
  14. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Or injuries have taken so much out of his ability that he isn't up to that level of soccer anymore.
     
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  15. justinpaul10

    justinpaul10 Member+

    Sep 2, 2013
    What did he screw up again? It was a knee or a bad leg break, right? No one has wanted him after that
     
  16. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's a possibility as well tho I still find it hard to believe that not a single team would take a flyer on him for a cheap 1 year deal and see if he can rebound. He had decent potential and is still young.
     
  17. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
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    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At this point, I can only assume he's playing for the best rec league team ever with David Arvizu, Felix Garcia, and Alex Nimo.
     
  18. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

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    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
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    Arsenal FC
    Johnny Exantus is the super sub.
     
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  19. lime

    lime Member

    May 18, 2016
    is Dallas City FC still around?
     
  20. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
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    When he trialed with the Revs the rumor was that post-injury he was slow as molasses. Just couldn't do it.

    We can all name 50 players who had injuries that ended up being career-ending. Some gave it a go afterwards, but they just couldn't do it anymore. And while the NASL/USLPro levels may not be full of players with technical ability, they're sure as hell full of athletes.
     
  21. keller4president

    Jan 5, 2006
    This Packwood situation is a sad story. He was supposed to be our next savior in defense. Any rumors of any trials?
     
  22. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Reckon his career is over. Sad? I guess, but professional sports are like that. He always seemed to have a really good head on his shoulders, so I'm sure he'll be fine.
     
  23. The Irish Rover

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    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
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    Manchester United FC
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    Ireland Republic
    #623 The Irish Rover, Jan 4, 2017
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2017
    Not that anyone's heard of, but this post summed it up pretty well back in August.

    His injuries weren't that dramatic, but it's entirely possible that he lost a key attribute (or two) and suddenly saw a career that, with the right breaks, was no longer Championship or better, but League 2 or worse.

    If that's the case, he's done the right thing by jacking it in. It's one thing being Jonathan Spector, whose career didn't reach the heights hoped for (remember, Spector won the Jimmy Murphy young player award at Man. U, not a guy called Gerard Pique), but has established himself in the Championship.

    A Championship regular can expect to make at least 350k sterling per year. Extend that over 10 years, and after agent's fees and other expenses, plus income tax, he could have a very nice retirement. A League 2 regular? Knock a zero off. The Conference? Knock a zero off and divide by two.

    This Guardian article by Laurence Bell, graduate of U of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, now at Macclesfield in the Conference, and once once at Man City's academy is revealing about life at the bottom. Money quote:

    The FIFPro Global Employment Report into working conditions in professional football revealed 45% of players around the world earn less than $1,000 per month. ... Results of the survey - carried out by FIFPro and the University of Manchester, canvassing almost 14,000 male footballers playing in 54 countries across Europe, the Americas and Africa ... show players in the lowest earning brackets far outnumber those at the top: 20% of footballers earn less than $300 per month, 45% earn less than $1,000, and only the top 15% earn more than $8,000 per month.
    https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...just-about-managing-footballers-laurence-bell

    And, by the way, those one-year deals we read about? Down in the lower leagues that doesn't cover the off-season. In plain English, that means that you have to maintain peak physical condition for 2-3 months until the pre-season starts and you can be released at the end of the month the season ends in. For some leagues, that means you're paid for only 6-8 months of the year.

    Final quote from Laurence Bell:
    As Theo van Seggelen, the secretary general of FIFPro, put it, “not every football player has three different cars in three different colours”. I, for instance, have one vehicle made up of two colours: a 13-year-old silver Ford KA with orange rust patches grinning through the door panels. The Silver Bullet – as ex-Hyde United team-mates christened her – just about coughs and splutters her way into Macclesfield’s training ground each morning. But the day she gives up, I worry how I’ll afford a replacement. This is life outside the top tier. Call us the Ferrari-less footballers.
    It's disappointing, but he's probably made the right decision. At 22, he had a life ahead of him and a lot of employers in the real world would give him kudos for having the balls to pursue a dream and the brains to realize that injuries have cancelled it. Frank Simek kept going until almost 30: he might have a harder time finding proper work.

    Memories last a lifetime. So does arthritis, especially if you get it in your early 30s.
     
  24. deuteronomy

    deuteronomy Member+

    Angkor Siem Reap FC
    United States
    Aug 12, 2008
    at the pitch
    Club:
    Siem Reap Angkor FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    An innocuous aerial challenge and bad landing and a promising career is over. A sad tale. Props to Will Packwood in each of his future endeavors.

    http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-boss-lee-clark-405691

    The crack when Packwood landed on the floor was heard by almost everyone in Elland Road, including Clark.

    “It’s such a right downer because we should be celebrating a terrific performance from my young players,” he added.

    “I heard the snap, I was hoping it was his shin pad.

    “When we heard the noise and heard him screaming, we knew it was something serious then the lads are coming across to me in tears.

    “Even the Leeds lads, experienced players like Michael Brown, were saying that it was an horrendous one.

    “There was no blame attached. It was innocuous, they both went for the ball.
     
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