Christian Pulisic at AC Milan

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Balerion, Jun 30, 2014.

  1. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    It is what I caution as well. So many young players under 20 look amazing, especially for their age. Germans, Brazilians, Argies, Spaniards, almost every English player with a break through year. And all of the sudden - they stop developing. I am not saying this about CP. But I am saying that this is what happens more often than not.

    Though it would be extremely disappointing to me, I would not be all that surprised if he doesn't become the next Reus and ends up in a mid-tabled club at 27. I have seen it too often. Hopefully this time is different.



    Is there such a thing as peaking to soon? I think so.
     
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  2. banbaseball

    banbaseball Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    East of the Bay
    It's easy to draw false analogies when it comes to young players. Morrison's talent was complicated by his poor attitude and antics. While I don't disagree that we should all excerise some caution with CP, the American's head has always been in the right place. His maturity and professionalism are actually some of the most impressive things about him.
     
  3. bballshawn

    bballshawn Member+

    Feb 5, 2014
    Delaware
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Yup, Our top basketball players are usually hyped 10x more from a younger age than our soccer players, but usually the ones who make it have hood work ethics and good injury luck and vice versa.
     
  4. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    We can't overestimate the importance of mental ability and character traits. There are so many players with terrific technical and physical ability, but so many don't make it due to something lacking mentally.

    Conversely, we can critique certain players regarding their technical abilities, lack of athleticism, etc., but they maximize themselves due to their superior mental abilities. We can all think of examples, but one that comes to mind for me is Gyasi Zardes. Here's someone who is constantly ripped for his poor first touch and other technical flaws. Yet, he keeps going. He's humble, hard working, optimistic, grateful to be playing in his hometown, always listening to more experienced players, like Robbie Keane, and is all in for his teammates. I think he's a fantastic role model, and I'm just sorry that he didn't get all the tools he needed to be a truly elite player.
     
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  5. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    But young basketball players aren't hyped any more than soccer players here, esp those at top clubs.
    The top clubs are notorious for eating up young talents. I believe Pulisic looks like he will come good. I think that even if he tops out soon, he'll have a very nice career.
    I just, as the season nears, am trying to head off the disappointment when he doesn't get starts or minutes and isn't propped up as the next big thing. Being careful with a very young player is a very rare and very good thing. That said, as I've noted, Dortmund is a smart club and a good club, and seems to have a heart. He's in a great spot to develop. But what happens this year as far as stats go doesn't matter that much. Better that he's positioning himself for a solid 15 years down the road, then a couple games extra games right now.
     
  6. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    Even if he doesn't make it at BvB he'll catch on somewhere else. He'll be fine. He has so many things going for him, not the least of which is his dad, Mark, being there with him in Dortmund. Barring major injury he will have a long and solid career.
     
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  7. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    CP has his dad with him in Dortmund, which I'm pretty sure knows more than any of us about danger of overhyping, and, looking at Chris doing a great job of keeping him level headed. Not worried about that.
     
  8. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I don't know his dad or what he is like as a person. What I do know is that some dad's are also their kids mangers and are directly responsible for their downfall and burning bridges.

    Hopefully this won't be the case.
     
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  9. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
  10. ShadowMoses2

    ShadowMoses2 Member

    Aug 24, 2015
    Austin, Tx
  11. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    His Dad seems to be a solid guy, very sane. An ex-pro indoor soccer player.
     
  12. neems

    neems Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Apr 14, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Total Soccer Show just started going to five days a week. They are a pretty easy listen and cover a lot of US MNT and WNT.
     
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  13. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah they're decent. Howler podcasts are pretty good too.

    Overall this board knows much more about YAs than any podcast I've ever heard.
     
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  14. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    And coaching youth teams at Dortmund as well.
     
  15. GalacticoX4

    GalacticoX4 Member+

    Jun 2, 2004
    I think the biggest problem is peaking too low and for too short a time.
     
  16. bballshawn

    bballshawn Member+

    Feb 5, 2014
    Delaware
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
  17. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Available on WatchESPN it appears, starting now
     
  18. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3593 uniteo, Aug 9, 2016
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2016
    uneven game to this point (34th min)...BVB dominated early on but Athletic Bilbao scored off a deep turnover (BVB caught with a lot of players breaking up) then put BVB under pressure for a long time

    players seem to be treating it like a friendly except for some kind of nasty challenges...interesting to see if it escalates

    CP not particularly standing out...failed to run with Aubameyang and so was slow to a ball off the post although the flag went up late late late late, shanked a shot on a difficult rebound (ball was spinning and bouncing), one loose touch deep in BVB's defensive third that led to a turnover but no damage done. Really finds good space but still looks like a teenager playing with men much of the time - tentative and content to play a supporting role rather than looking to take on the game - just my 2 cents.

    And then of course he does make an aggressive play and almost turns the game around...should I not do PBP for a friendly? 43rd minute, jumps a pass from GK to CB and gets through on goal, beats the GK from the right hand side but ball caroms off the inside of the far post - an inch off (disagree a little with the Duke below, not an easy shot to beat the GK on that angle).
     
  19. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pulisic stings the inside of the post on a breakaway he created from his pressure. Should do better with the chance.

    He's been a little off from the 10 minutes I've seen. His balls have been inaccurate. Looks a little jumpy.
     
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  20. ShadowMoses2

    ShadowMoses2 Member

    Aug 24, 2015
    Austin, Tx
    He seems to have a knack for creating turnovers off of his defensive pressure. I've seen him do it a few times, he even did it with the National team against Argentina I believe.
     
  21. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Burnic, Kagawa and Weidenfeller stay on for the start of the 2nd half, everyone else subbed out
     
  22. adi21

    adi21 Member

    The ones that have Americans starting
    United States
    Mar 17, 2001
    Maryland
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pulisic subbed for the second half together with most of the starters.
     
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  23. bballshawn

    bballshawn Member+

    Feb 5, 2014
    Delaware
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Yeah they shouldve bought Brooks
     
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  24. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    over Bartra or with Bartra?
     
  25. bballshawn

    bballshawn Member+

    Feb 5, 2014
    Delaware
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    with
     

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