Copa America Quarter-Final | Mexico vs. Chile

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  1. Mexcellence

    Mexcellence Member+

    Oct 12, 2007
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Past liga mx heavy nt squads did good due to chemistry.

    These euro players are better but there is no understanding.

    The midfield and defense is just awful. There is no dmid on this team and guardado has been shit. HH is doing that sluggish summer thing too.
     
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  2. Faust23

    Faust23 Member+

    Jan 10, 2015
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
  3. nicamex1935

    nicamex1935 Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    We handled Jamaica with Piojo a lot better than we did with Osorio. Just like Chile could have won 10-0, Jamaica could have easily put 5 past Mexico. Having to type that out is a pathetic reality.

    But I'll reiterate. What happened tonight was garbage and not indicative of where Mexico is as a futbol nation in terms of its talent.

    Osorio's lab experiment failed miserably.

    Maybe I'm just a deluded homer though.
     
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  4. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    The chemistry was great especially in the world cup but like I said, people need to realize things change and that is why I bring the players from Chile and Colombia. Chile used to be a Zamorano and Salas and the rest Chilean league players. Colombia used to have stars but they all were huge busts in Europe. Now things have changed. We might have had some games but never had the results in those times of Brazil and Argentina. Now all the teams are like those Brazil and Argentinas and Argentina is even better now.
     
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  5. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    7-0 is not indicative. Losing and being inferior to Chile is unfortunately.
     
  6. Narc83

    Narc83 Member+

    Jul 21, 2007
    Phoenix
    The score line is fkn surreal. I would really be amazed if Osorio survived after this historic humiliation. Its amazing how shambolic our entire team was.

    Its obvious that Osorio failed to prepare the players because they came out with zero energy and the team imploded like few teams have ever before. Its amazing the lack of discipline and the complete lack of fight back from this team.

    What amazes me is how Osorio thought it was a good idea to rotate 6-9 players a game, change formations, and to not clog the midfield against a team of Chile's caliber.

    Chile struggles against us because we bunker and go big against them. We absorb pressure hoof the ball forward to some tronco like Lalo or Raul and then rely on set pieces or some magic from Tecatito to bail us out. I was amazed to see how casual Mexican players where when Chile was bombing away at our goalkeeper. Its fkn amazing that for most of the game we only had 4-6 players defending.

    We normally hustle and frustrate opponents while attacking effectively from counters and rely on our most dynamic players like Gio and Tecatito to win us the game.
     
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  7. Baysic

    Baysic Member+

    Jun 11, 2009
    The Bay Area, CA
    Club:
    Club América
    Ragdolled x 7 <_<
     
  8. Miguel Myers

    Miguel Myers Member+

    Dec 3, 2011
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I guess the positive light is that we could play chile in next years confed cup

    And I mean, Argentina lost to Bolivia, 6-1, in recent history

    But, damn, this was a total fk up
     
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  9. nicamex1935

    nicamex1935 Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Kudos to them. I'm not going to completely discredit their victory. They're better right now but not by some huge margin. The core of these teams are the same from 2014 and both got knocked out in the same stage. Hopefully Mexico get to play Chile again next summer with management that's able to get the best out of the material we have to work with.
     
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  10. ninjew

    ninjew Member+

    Oct 14, 2009
    Discordia 2.0
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico

    Gonna go to bed now. Fvck this. I'll say a prayer for @Colima24 before bed.
     
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  11. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    Which is my point that they have gone forward since 2014 and we have regressed.
     
  12. nicamex1935

    nicamex1935 Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Not sure they've gone forward. They won an emotional Copa America at home like other countries in their continent have. And they struggled mightily in several of those games, including vs Mexico and Peru. The jury is out on whether they'll even qualify to the World Cup with Pizzi.

    I would say our players are actually doing better now than they were two years ago.

    Our talent just needs to be properly managed on the national team.
     
  13. Narc83

    Narc83 Member+

    Jul 21, 2007
    Phoenix
    A few questions Osorio needs to answer are:
    1. How he believed playing Lozano instead of Raul or Oribe was a smart idea.
    2. Why in the world did Duenas start when we normally played a backline of 5 due to Aguilar and Layun being kamikaze's?
    3.Why was Herrera playing as a second forward instead of helping to clog the midfield?

    Mexico has sucked before but never have i seen a team imploded as badly as this one.
     
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  14. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    I can't get past that Chile and Colombia are better than us. Especially Chile since Colombia at least always had great prospects that would flame out and they also had that 94 team. But Chile being better really hurts. To have to look up to them is pathetic.

    I also lost all the faith in Osorio I think. It's like the Eduardo Herrera thing all over again. What a disaster.
     
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  15. Colima24

    Colima24 Member+

    Jul 28, 2005
    Villa de Alvarez
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    This is for a certain fuccboi up in section 308. You thought you were real funny, huh, you pos?

     
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  16. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    Um this was the equivalent to a home Copa America and we just got our ass handed to us so I don't think them winning is a small thing at all.

    And the team isn't doing better at all which makes the player thing kind of mute. All of Hector Herrera success in Porto has meant for jack shit for us since he stunk in the last 2 tournaments as opposed to Brazil. Same with Layun. And like I said, it might be good in comparison but it's not good compared to other players in other teams. We might be applauding because Diego Reyes looks good in some games but other team players have starters and backups getting playing time. That's why they are passing us.
     
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  17. Colima24

    Colima24 Member+

    Jul 28, 2005
    Villa de Alvarez
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    @Baysic, a ver si estos pseudo periodistas/comentaristas le dan con todo a este charlatan como lo hicieron con Miguel? Lo dudo.
     
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  18. Colima24

    Colima24 Member+

    Jul 28, 2005
    Villa de Alvarez
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Solamente si es de la chichona que estaba en frente de mi en la fila para entrar al estadio. :(
     
  19. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    A lot of TV programs in Mexico and people in twitter keep bringing up the mistake of leaving Marquez on the bench and how it was an awful thing without pointing out that there lies the problem. How are we still dependent on Marquez? He's 37 and has bad legs and yet that is the problem. Not to mention how many were mad he got called up after what he did in Atlas this season.
     
  20. Colima24

    Colima24 Member+

    Jul 28, 2005
    Villa de Alvarez
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Why?

     
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  21. Hecho en Mexico

    Hecho en Mexico Member+

    Mar 22, 2002
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    This. And let's not forget the extra help they got from the refs in 2015.



    The thing that is astounding about this is that Osorio got schooled by Pizzi.

    Not Tabarez. Not Pekerman. Hell, not even ********ing Martino.

    Juan Antonio Pizzi FFS.
     
  22. Colima24

    Colima24 Member+

    Jul 28, 2005
    Villa de Alvarez
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    We've been telling ya'll about this snake oil salesman ever since his 1st day and ya'll wouldn't listen.
     
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  23. nicamex1935

    nicamex1935 Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Because of piss poor management.

    Before this game tonight, the pressure was mounting incredibly on Pizzi due to how poor Chile had been playing.

    Now all of a sudden they're way better?

    Bullshit.

    I'm not buying what Pizzi is selling with Chile.

    Interested to see how he fares in qualifying.
     
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  24. Football Lover NYC

    Aug 21, 2008
    My Room
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Historically on a head to head basis, Mexico has won the majority of the games between them. No one would blame you for feeling this waaay. They may be better right now but Football is cyclical.
     
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  25. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    You must have missed the game where the friendly where they dominated us. They played the best game against Argentina where they had chances and had it not been because of Bravo, would have won 4-0 against Panama. The only game they didn't look great was against Bolivia. And they just beat us 7-0. In a QF. They are better, no doubt.
     
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