Rayo OKC News Thread

Not really, we are going back to the only true club in the state with the Athletics.

Don't really care about you referencing an event we all appropriately address in Tulsa from 95 years ago. Our city has the culture yours never will in the current day.

 

Kaiser is Jewish. Nice try though.

 

You're anti-semitic aren't you?

History is not heritage... The past is foreign to all who have not observed it: your "culture" is not 95+ years old and I don't apologize if that offends you. Sorry btw.

 

You know, every Tulsan says that. I guess in hopes that people might still remember them as the "Pretty Sister"

 

You're stupid.

 

Our arts are better, that's a fact. So is our music. Moving along now.

 

You win Oklahoma congratulations, in other news I found a $20 bill on the sidewalk.

 

You may want to look up the definition of the word "subjective".

Yeah, those Hanson boys

Tulsan Insecurity rearing it's head

 

Is that directed at the good folks from Tulsa?

 

Well that's a welcome change in moderating

 

I'd point out that it was these same Rayo OKC (nee OKC FC) people who were going to magically start a second Oklahoma NASL club in Tulsa, but once they lost their majority owner and their stadium lease to Energy FC and Funk Jr's group bribed Drillers baseball owners after the Energy bought and paid for USL territorial rights, the game was essentially over. Undeterred, the OKC FC people talked an unsuspecting Rayo Vallecano into signing up to play games in Yukon.

Over/Under on whether this team lasts the full three seasons committed to in Yukon?

The sight of the mighty NY Cosmos next month playing on the road in front of 4k fans at a high school football stadium in OKC's far flung suburban version of Frisco, TX with signs over the stands stating "This is RAYO COUNTRY" pretty much describes all the problem I have with the "new" NASL in a nutshell.

 

Then you should probably stay out of the NASL forum, and stick to MLS, USL, or wherever.

 

Who the h*** gives you the right to tell me when & where I can and cannot post on bigsoccer?
I'm not a big fan of the USL either. But I am still a fan of the NASL and their stated longterm goals.
Hope they survive MLS/USL pressures and can't wait for Wilt to get NASL Chicago online.
No need for censorship.

 

I think it's time for some clean up.

 

So, what you're saying is that everyone involved in professional soccer in Oklahoma, except for the Athletics is just a bunch of shady fucks?

It's called "due dilligence"

Probably less than 30% - but I don't care.

This bothers you more than it should...

Well, no, as long as he's talking Rayo and tangentially NASL, that should be just fine. When he starts waxing nostalgically about Tulsa Roughnecks 1.0 is when we know he doesn't have anything to add, or when any dumbfuck from that end of the turnpike starts barking about who's crappy art and nightlife are better...

I've offered to moderate this forum, ruthlessly, many times, to no avail

 

Not really.

 

Provoke or bringing up a legit point the NASL rights might end up in Tulsa?

 

And yet, you return to get the last word. 13 year old girls have better self-esteem than the average Tulsa

I bet there's whole NASL Expansion forum for that.

Because of the Mandalorian Cosplay?

 

Not expansion. Relocation.

Also, don't really care about your keyboard warrior ways.

 

Nope, what I'm saying is that the Athletics have been the most straight-forward in how they play with others, despite being stuck in the middle of a nasty & prohibitively costly little food fight in Oklahoma City between SOS and Prodigal and between the NASL and USL... in addition, when compared to both the majority and minority owners of the USL club in Tulsa, the Athletics are free of potential conflicts of interest.

Ironic how OKC FC shut down its NPSL club the year before NASL clubs started fielding their own NPSL teams while Energy FC is fielding its own PDL team this season.

You confuse due diligence with the butt-hurt of an ex-employee of Express Sports.

If Brad Lund and Sold Out Strategies had played their cards right and conducted themselves as a sports marketing business rather than as an OKC soccer advocacy group who chose to proactively engage in a death match with Prodigal, they'd probably be getting some really good marketing gigs in USL right about now. SOS could have operated an ECHL franchise in OKC and maybe even partnered with the Athletics for a USL or NASL club in Tulsa. As it stands now, their name is mud in the USL and the old CHL is long dead and buried.

This doesn't bother you as much as it should... see, I'm 100% certain that the Athletics will continue next year and the year after that... and about 80%-90% certain they'll be around in some form or other ten years from now.

Ironic considering it's been the two OKC sports marketing groups who were fighting over who gets to use the Roughnecks name for a Tulsa expansion club while our NPSL group refused to get in the middle of it. Also ironic that the league in question calls itself the "North American Soccer League" and they clearly wanted a return of the Tulsa Roughnecks... hell, they woulda forced the Atlanta Silverbacks to rebrand as the Atlanta Chiefs if they thought they could get away with it.

To be fair, the Athletics probably owe Brad Lund a finders fee for Warren Ross.

Doubtful, since I think Rayo Vallecano makes the decision to sell to the highest bidder and the NASL is unlikely to have an appetite for a team in Tulsa competing directly with the USL. The Drillers would have to change their mind on controlling Tulsa's soccer narrative and that won't happen IMO until after year three at the earliest....

 

Not at all.

The NY Cosmos played at Hofstra back in the very beginning of their NASL days, not alike how the old (real) Tulsa Roughnecks played at the old Drillers Stadium at the end of the NASL's days. Unlike Rayo OKC's home in Yukon, the 12k seat facility at Hofstra is not a high school football stadium requiring little artificial turf squares be nailed to the ground to make it look pretty from a distance for the TV cameras... and then there's the grass field at Athletics Stadium I was told would be perfectly fine in size and scope for an NASL team.

If anyone has shown "due diligence" over the course of years, it's been the Cosmos group.
They never ever tried to play both sides against the middle by starting a PDL club with the full intention of thwarting another group already planning on joining USL Pro.

And nobody from the Cosmos organization or the new NASL ever gave me the excuse that "Tulsa doesn't have a place to play" during the 3+ years I'd been lobbying Tulsa County officials (with the NASL's full blessing) to keep the 11k seat stadium on 15th & Yale available for an expansion NASL team. But Brad told me just that, and I have the emails to prove it.

Brad had the effing nerve to tell me Tulsa doesn't have a place to play when it was Brad himself who proposed not just one high school stadium to play in at Taft, but then did a 180 after he lost Tim McLaughlin (and Taft Stadium) and systematically sold the NASL (and Rayo Vallecano) on playing at freaking Yukon High School's football stadium... in my book, that's not due diligence, that's serious Penn Square Bank fraud territory...

And it was this same BRAD LUND who'd already started a PDL club and was somehow surprised the USL would find out about his two-faced flirtations with the NASL if he (and his surrogates) couldn't badmouth Funk Jr. to the point of influencing Tim Holt into awarding SOS the club when Prodigal had a pre-existing agreement.
So, either Brad lied to the NASL to get his way (he has a habit of doing this) or it was the NASL brass who turned out to be lying to me about the concept of converting a 11k capacity baseball park into an NASL soccer venue.

Trust me, I really don't care what YOU think about me.
Once this is over (and it will be sooner or later), what's left?
Brad and Sean's OKC FC NPSL club he abandoned after the 2014 season?
Because Funk Jr. now has OKC's 4th division club... good luck drawing 1,100 fans per game with Energy U23's as competition... and yes, I harbor every bit as much animosity towards Brad-the-pathological-lying-carnival-barker as you hold for Funk Jr.

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