Potential 2026 WC Hosts (Update: Morocco Sole Challenger to CONCACAF Bid)

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  1. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    As it was reported to me by contemporary witnesses: with a lot of people cheering when goalies would carry out a goal kick. I wouldnt call a marketing stunt like 94 a success.
     
  2. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    #727 deejay, Feb 26, 2016
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2016
    Subjective reasons instead of objective, measurable ones? That's all?

    In Bolivia the most annoying thing about the national team games was sitting next to the people that knew nothing about soccer but came to that type of event. Mostly women, of course. Always getting excited and nervous about the wrong things. That those types appear in a game is hardly a marketing failure.
     
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  3. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I heard from a cousin's uncle's long lost step brother that people cheered Hitler during the Olympics. That logically means that Germany should never be able to host a Sporting event ever again.
     
  4. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Do you watch any matches from Latin American nations? Fans for many nations/clubs will offer a roar for all goal kicks. Much like Arsenal fans do when David Ospina takes a goal kick.

    FIFA and their sponsors do, as does every European club that now tours the states to sell merchandise or bolster their international media contracts. As does MLS and every soccer team in the US born after 1995. The very concept of stepping outside of Europe and South America for the event and seeing it succeed is what has propelled football to the level of global support you see today. Just because the fans were different and not all locals doesn't mean the event didn't succeed. In fact, it's most telling that the event produced the numbers it did BECAUSE of all the unconventional fans that came out in support.

    If anything, if it was just a marketing stunt then it may well go down as one of the most successful such stunts ever.
     
  5. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    It's not a marketing stunt, among the hoopla it gets ignored that WC94 and to a greater extent MLS succeeded because of the support from the big Latin American and Eastern European base that was very willing to embrace American soccer.
     
  6. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    And yet the spectators in 36 knew Jesse Owens was a decent runner and not a ice skater
    Oh that is common here as well. But thats not what happened in 94 in the US. People thought the guy in a different shirt scored a field goal.
     
  7. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    You honestly believe the majority of the crowds in the USA were ignorant as to what sport they were watching?

    Really?
     
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  8. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    No, I think it is impossible to call 94 the most successful WC ever when a "certain part" of spectators had no clue at all about what happened infront of them. But that doesnt mean you shouldnt be allowed to show this has changed after 30 years.
     
  9. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If they bought tickets and cheered who cares?
     
  10. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    An authentic atmosphere is an essential part of football. See Brazil 2014.
     
  11. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's an extremely vague answer. What's authentic? I'd argue 15K more a game provides a better atmosphere
     
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  12. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think quality is what matters. See Arsenal. See Bayern. See Real. Like in an opera or library.
     
  13. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    #738 HomietheClown, Feb 26, 2016
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2016
    I would venture to say that with the way people get drunk and the way just anyone can get tickets nowadays there's a "certain part" of spectators in the stands that don't have a clue as to what is going on at all Major Sporting events. :p
     
  14. Sandinista

    Sandinista Member+

    Apr 11, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    Racing Club de Avellaneda
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Let's learn from the mistakes of the past...

     
  15. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah on second thought, I think we've lost the right to host it
     
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  16. faiyez

    faiyez Member

    Feb 16, 2010
    Costa Rica
    Club:
    LD Alajuelense
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    It still wasn't the worst PK taken that summer.
     
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  17. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    It wasn't even the worst one taken at the Rose Bowl.

    *CoughBaggioCough*
    :p
     
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  18. Football Lover NYC

    Aug 21, 2008
    My Room
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    2026 should go back to Europe. Enough with this "spreading the Cup around the world" nonsense. Hopefully it's Spain-Portugal 2026.
     
  19. joebarnin

    joebarnin Member

    May 3, 2003
    Santa Cruz, CA
    I went to nine game during the 94 World Cup (Pasadina and Palo Alto) and I never saw anything like this. The fan 'quality' was pretty high; most were soccer-knowledgeable. There were a few newbies but that's true with any big event. As for comparing the World Cup crowds to Arsenal or Bayern, crowds for World Cup games are never at that level. I went to several World Cup games in France in 1998, and the environment was never the same as the top-club games I've been to (e.g., Barcelona). Club games mostly have the hard-core supporters. WC games have a mix of team supporters, local soccer fans, and more casual fans. That's true no matter what country hold the World Cup.
     
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  20. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I mentioned those very clubs for the big crowds they draw but dont have a good atmosphere. Thats why my point still stands. WCs should go to football crazy countries for the atmosphere. Not just in the stadiums but overall. USA 94, Japan/Korea 02 and South Africa 10 were all disappointing in this apartment.
     
  21. FlipsLikeAPancake

    Jul 6, 2010
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While I understand your point, I think a 2026 World Cup in the United States would have a great atmosphere. The game has grown immensely in the past 20 years, and figures to grow even more over the next 10.

    Also since the United States has such a diverse population, one nice thing is that no matter which teams are playing, there will probably be a substantial rooting interest for both sides, even before international tourism is factored in.
     
  22. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Were you at any of the tournaments you have derided for lacking "atmosphere". I've only been to one World Cup (Germany 2006) but the atmosphere in the stadiums I was at was no better than the atmosphere in the Asian Cup final I attended in Sydney last year. Whilst the atmosphere outside of the venues was good in Germany, I would rate it behind what I experienced in the Sydney Olympics.
     
  23. jcvf90

    jcvf90 Member

    Dec 12, 2006
    Boca Raton, FL
    If Qatar is hosting, Honduras should get next. #CallejasDidNothingWrong #HawittIsASaint
     
  24. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Ah, this argument again. Let's all simply root for the biggest teams in the biggest leagues, because any developing league or less-than great club/nation doesn't deserve our respect. How 19th century. :rolleyes:
     
  25. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    #750 HomietheClown, Feb 29, 2016
    Last edited: Feb 29, 2016
    And his argument just does not make any sense.

    Do people know which Country's (non host) patrons purchased the most tickets to the Brazilian World Cup in 2014?
    Let me give you a clue...

    ...it Starts with a United and ends with a States.

    So a majority of those great atmospheres down in Samba land had a good percentage of people who either live in the USA or are citizens of the USA.
     
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