Eliminatorias a RUSIA 2018

Discussion in 'CONMEBOL' started by Gerlestat, Oct 5, 2015.

  1. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Haha, you're pissed off now!

    Well, Ecuador is on top...don't disrespect them, and I'm thinking at the very least they'll beat Peru, Venezuela, Paraguay and Colombia at home, draw Brazil and Argentina at home and Bolivia away and that should be enough.

    While Chile had a forgettable outing this month, I'm not sure the wheels are coming off. It may just be a bad patch, we'll see early next year how they bounce back. Too bad about Peru, if they get three or less points in the next round it's virtually over.

    Brazil is building an interesting offense with Neymar and Coutinho up front with Douglas Costa and Willian in midfield, plus Oscar, Firmino and Renato as subs.
     
  2. Carlitos8

    Carlitos8 New Member

    May 12, 2015
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Todas las selecciones pasan por altos y bajos en eliminatorias, TODAS, estas no van a ser la excepcion, Tecnicos se van a ir y algunos van a empeorar, en el WCQ del 2014, Sabella, Sampaoli, Pekerman llegaron a apagar incendios y clasificaron top 3, Rueda y Tabares que si jugaron TODA la eliminatoria entraron 4to y 5to, aqui nada esta dicho, faltan 14 partidos, 42 puntos todavia ahi, la meta es 27 no?
     
  3. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Y yo que amo mi país, reitero mi apoyo a Sampaoli.
     
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  4. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    #229 Rickdog, Nov 18, 2015
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2015
    para estar seguro, deben ser por lo menos 30 pts.
    Con 27 pts. te puede pasar que llegas empatado en el 5º lugar, pero igual quedas fuera por diferencia de goles (como le pasó a Colombia para las eliminatorias del mundial 2002)
     
  5. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    #230 pepinointer, Nov 18, 2015
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2015
    Im not pissed of, for me isnt diificult to recognize a result. you wont find from me a comment saying that colombia was going to defeat aregtnina, or james will score goals. You are wrong, im just colombian. Not a fan without brain.

    grow up look your answer.. are you a child??


    Is logic man, you cant say IM WINNER OR IM LOSSER about my thoughs, After a match.

    Have you learned once to build up an argument??? if you are correct or wrong because a match, isnt a conculsion.

    Man im a usuall poster here, and never pissed off because results . Argetntina deserved to won, james played terrible (after two months without playing) You are being a little child.

    @RiverGaucho @locoxriver know me better and im not an AGRANDADO HOOLLIGAN . I talked here about football , so stop trolling

    and saying that im wrong about a player because a player because a match is just stupid, isnt because im colombian.
     
  6. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I wouldn't buy any stock in Brazil just yet. We won mainly because Peru was below par last night rather than us playing well. We played "average" for what we have shown under Dunga thus far. The defense made a few mistakes that could have been costly, had Peru been more decisive in front of goal. We still lack any team play and that becomes evident in the midfield and especially the final third. Last night, we sprayed balls out wide to Willian and Douglas Costa and they had to beat their man to try to create anything. On the first goal, Willian took on his man on the right, won, whipped a cross that bounced off Douglas Costa and into the net. On the second goal, Douglas Costa dribbled through several defenders before sticking a pass out to Renato Augusto. The only good sign was that we were able to win without a good performance from Neymar, but like I said, Peru was below average and it was self-inflicted.

    If Dunga remains the coach for the next few rounds of the WCQ, the team has to show improvement over what we've seen so far if we want to qualify within the top 4.
     
  7. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Opino igual. Chile tiene más puntos a esta altura que en los dos últimos ciclos. Se jugó mal en Uruguay, sí pero históricamente quizás la única vez que Chile hizo una buena presentación en el Centenario fue el 2007. No es para morirse.

    El ecuatoriano de arriba anda medio alzadito...
     
  8. cabezamagica

    cabezamagica Member

    Feb 10, 2011
    NYC
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    te refieres a lo que escribio posteador,?Pero ese forista no es Chileno?yo no veo a ningun Ecuatoriano por aqui comentando con arrogancia,lo que si lei fue un par de commentarios de un par de sufridores tratando de minimizar los triunfos de mi pais.
     
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  9. posteador

    posteador Member+

    Dec 29, 2006
    Lincoln, UK
    Viendo los partidos que se le vienen a Ecuador, tienen para clasificar antes que nadie...

    De local contra Paraguay (Claro favorito)
    Visita contra Colombia (difícil, pero no mas difícil que sacar 3 puntos en Buenos Aires, un empate no seria raro)
    Local contra Brazil (Brazil sufre en la altura, este Brazil en particular todavia no convence. Ecuador favorito, empate en el peor de los casos)
    Visita contra Peru (Peru sigue dando tumbos y es su propio peor enemigo. Ecuador favorito o empate)
    Local contra Chile (Se nos acaba el oxigeno en Quito para jugar nuestro estilo, Ecuador claro favorito)
    Visita contra Bolivia (Bolivia solo asusta por la altura y Ecuador no le teme a la altura, Ecuador favorito)
    Visita contra Uruguay (recién para Noviembre del 2016 no los veo como favoritos frente a Uruguay en Montevideo)

    ...Por lo que han mostrado hasta ahora (con jugadores claves suspendidos o lesionados) tienen unos 12 o 14 puntos al menos. Ya tendrían unos 24-26 puntos antes de enfrentar a Uruguay! Con 7 partidos por jugar después de Uruguay! ...y reciben a Venezuela después de Montevideo, otros 3 puntos!

    Tendría que ocurrir un cataclismo para que Ecuador no vaya a Russia 2018.
     
  10. chewie4917

    chewie4917 Member

    Sep 10, 2011
    I am glad to live in a universe where this is not (and, hopefully, will not be) the case.
     
  11. chewie4917

    chewie4917 Member

    Sep 10, 2011
    That’s because there's a lot of truth in that. I can’t comment on Colombia, but I can say that the Centenario is like kryptonite for Chile – a team that, quite simply, gets dismembered there. And, I think that a large part of that is psychological. Opposition teams and players tend to lose their marbles there; they get heavy legs, they run slower, they make uncommon errors, etc. Chile played horribly there last round; nothing new.

    Debates and conversations tend to get polarised, though, beyond these encounters. I’d say that Uruguay, Colombia and Chile are pretty evenly balanced, since 2010, regardless of ‘bragging rights’, as these are the three teams from the region to really improve considerably in the last 10 years. Taking into account men’s’ official ‘A’ matches across all venues, Chile and Uruguay are about even in the head-to-head since 2010: 3 wins each, 3 losses each, and 1 draw. Since 2005: 3 wins each, 3 losses each, and 4 draws. That’s recent history which, for me, is what’s relevant. Colombia versus Uruguay (same statistics since 2010): 2 wins each, 2 losses each, and 0 draws. Colombia versus Chile (same statistics since 2010): 1 win each, 1 loss each, and 2 draws.

    If I’m not mistaken – and I’m not sure if this statistic is true – Brazil, before June 6, 2009, had not won an official game in Montevideo in 33 years. That tells us how much of a fortress that stadium can be.
     
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  12. posteador

    posteador Member+

    Dec 29, 2006
    Lincoln, UK
    I'd say so, in fact, any points taken 'away' from home between these teams will be crucial. Chile has started on the wrong foot by losing 2 points to Colombia with that draw in Santiago and not getting anything in Montevideo.

    Colombia did fairly well, getting a point in Santiago but losing to Uruguay in Montevideo.

    Uruguay did their job and won both their home matches, so they are favourites at the moment, but on the return leg they have to visit both Colombia and Chile (Last qualifiers Uruguay lost 4-0 to Colombia in Barranquilla and 2-0 to Chile in Santiago).
     
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  13. guri

    guri Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
  14. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    la anterior foto quedo editada por contenido pornografico?
     
  15. Ezto

    Ezto Member

    Jun 27, 2007
    NY
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    I just thought of this.
    We have 6 teams within the top 13. One or two of these won't go to the world cup. Instead, some b or c rated teams which can't play nearly as well will take our place, and thus decrease the quality of the spectacle.
     
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  16. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    What date is the next round?
     
  17. posteador

    posteador Member+

    Dec 29, 2006
    Lincoln, UK
    It's called the World Cup for a reason, some quality will be lost in the process. I like it as it is, but there are rumours they might expand it even further which will dilute the quality much more...
     
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  18. barcelonista1981

    May 16, 2007
    GUAYAQUIL
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Como que se acabo el periodo de hibernacion no? ay.....a sufrir de nuevo.
     
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  19. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Moderator
    Staff Member

    Deportivo Independiente Miraflores
    Peru
    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Peru take on Venezuela next, and let me just say if we can't win this, we deserve to finish bottom, never mind qualify for the World Cup. Venezuela are at the worst they've been since the 90's.
     
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  20. Dominican Lou

    Dominican Lou Member+

    Nov 27, 2004
    1936 Catalonia
    Yeah, we need to take 6 points from Venezuela pre-2000 style.
     
  21. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    We need 4 points, for Chile it looks complicated. Specially playing Argentina without 5 starters...
     
  22. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    That's the least of our problems, as playing against Argentina, even with all our starters, there was no guarantee that we would get a good result (on paper, they are a lots more stronger team than ours, but to our favour, we are playing at home).

    The problem will be against Venezuela aferwards, against whom we must win all 3 of the points in dispute, but given to our lack of key players, it might also end helping them at their home, to win them against us instead.

    This double match date doesn't look any good, to our pretentions (fortunately the next match dates, will be in September so there is a long time to recover our team, till then)
     
  23. posteador

    posteador Member+

    Dec 29, 2006
    Lincoln, UK
    Even with so many players missing we should still beat Venezuela that are divided and in a bit of a civil war.

    Argentina is a different matter...
     
  24. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Agree with Posteador, its Venezuela the must win game. 4 points here and I celebrate.
     
  25. holacomoestasamigo

    Jun 25, 2014
    Club:
    --other--
    Hi friends, how are you guys doing? I can't believe we now have a tv channel that broadcasts our world cup qualifier matches! I love beinsports! do you guys remember when no tv channel cared about showing wcq matches from south America? we would consider ourselves lucky if telemundo showed the games on Saturday night even though the games had taken place 5 days ago!

    Either way, it surprises me that apparently beinsports isn't going to broadcast Chile vs Argentina....
     

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