YEDLIN STARTS! Sunderland v. Man City in Capital One Cup

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  1. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Well, their other fullbacks are PVA on the left (terrible) and Billy Jones on the right (almost as terrible), so chances are we'll see more of DeAndre --but just by default, not so much because he's that good, but because the competition honestly sucks.
     
  2. bballshawn

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    Feb 5, 2014
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    FINALLLYYYYYYY
     
  3. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

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    2 "almost assists" boom!!
     
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  4. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    I've been telling you, too: Yedlin one thing is that he can cross.
     
  5. dark knight

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  6. bballshawn

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  7. GalacticoX4

    GalacticoX4 Member+

    Jun 2, 2004
    ********ing hell my damn stream skipped and missed it. Damn you internet!

    Maybe we should just convert him into a midfielder. then screw defending.
     
  8. FreekickSmurf

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    Aug 11, 2013
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    Yea, best player on the pitch for s'land. He is still raw in defense though
     
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  9. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Yeah that is almost his natural position, except he can't dribble enough to be a RW in the Premiership.

    PS: S'land fans talking of DeAndre becoming their #1 RB, his rival Jones can't defend either, and he also can't attack.
     
  10. Ironbound

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    Jul 1, 2009
    I'll be shocked and appalled if he isn't starting at Old Trafford this weekend.
     
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  11. ussoccer97531

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    No, we shouldn't. This is why he's struggled in 2015 for the NT because the inept coach has tried to play him as his designated runner.
     
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  12. bballshawn

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    nah, teach him positioning
     
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  13. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

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    He's the definition of a wingback, in a 5-3-2.
     
  14. Fanatical Monk

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    #114 Fanatical Monk, Sep 22, 2015
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    In a 2 leg series I like at least 3 teams over Sunderland and Newcastle.


    Here's the thing about an attacking fullback. He's going to get forward. If your team isn't good in possession, they're a liablity. If you team isn't tactically astute enough to cover for him on the break "being out of position" then the other team is going to come down his side. Switch DY and Dani Alves and people are going to say a lot of the same things. Great pace and width, gets "caught out of position".

    His 1v1 defending is not a problem. If you enjoy watching him create all this havoc in the final .33, then it comes as a trade off.
     
  15. GalacticoX4

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    Jun 2, 2004
    agreed. I'd rather he just learn it.
     
  16. GalacticoX4

    GalacticoX4 Member+

    Jun 2, 2004
    I think from a midfield standpoint his bigger issues are less about dribbling and more things like sloppy/incosistent first touch, passing, and just the basic decisions that come with more touches and being further up the field. like simply taking care of the ball. But he'll improve them all i'm sure.

    I think there are lots of calls for JOnes to go to left back for LVA who is garbage. And then put Yedlin on the right. We'll see. But it was a positive game for Yedlin. Put himself in the fold to play more which is a positive.
     
  17. GalacticoX4

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    Jun 2, 2004
    I'm not remotely talking about getting out of position when, by design, he's pushing forward. I'm talking about simply being in the wrong position especially when the ball is on the other side of the pitch.

    No his issues are, well defensively, not tracking a running, losing a runner, pinching too far in, or simply lurking too far forward and not being able to recover.

    yeah any full back that get's forward is gonna be exposed if your team gives the ball away. That's expected. But also Advocaat likes his fullbacks to attack so i'm guessing when a fullback is caught out while pushing forward do to someone else's giveaway he's going to place a lot of blame on the guy that gave the ball away exposing the fullback. As opposed to stay, Tony Pulis, who's widemen are told to damn near never cross midfield. So if they are caught out they were never supposed to be going forward to begin with so it's the the fullbacks that's gonna take most of the blame.

    Regardless, what i'm talking about isn't when he's pushing forward by design and they turn the ball over, i'm talking in the normal course of defending, when play get's switched back to his side, when there are overlapping runs and he has to chose, etc.

    It doesn't mean he's shit or anything but the mere fact that he's on loan at Sunderland should be evidence that this is an area where improvement can be made. As someone said, if he could defend he'd be at Spurs still.
     
  18. Fanatical Monk

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    I'm not saying I agree with all of this but it's a good explanation.
     
  19. nycfc919

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    Aug 17, 2015
    Can they beat them? Sure. Would they beat any of the bottom 4 or 5 the majority of the time? In my opinion, no.
     
  20. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

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    Absolutely! It's called "team depth."
     
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  21. comoesa

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    I said he couldn't cross, doh.
     
  22. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    He'd be amazing in the Bundesliga
     
  23. justinpaul10

    justinpaul10 Member+

    Sep 2, 2013
    feels a tad dirty doesn't it.
     
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  24. Testudo

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  25. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, he was awesome against Chile the first 60 minutes. Then he faded because he was out of shape at the time. But now he has the lungs and legs to go 90. Wing back fits his attributes because defense is more predicated on speed and effort than awareness, and offense on speed, effort, and crossing. He can supply these things in spades. Possibly be among the best wingbacks worldwide. At the other positions he's kind of a tweener where you get some of the good and bad, but still he's clearly fit to start for Sunderland, IMO.

    As an aside, Shea is kind of a poor man's Yedlin on that left side. I think the U.S. could be really interesting going forward with them in a 3-5-2/5-3-2 formation. They manned the positions in the aforementioned Chile game. And even though both weren't matched fit, they showed significant promise in the positions, and the U.S. were winning the game until they switched. It's bizarre the formation hasn't returned since.
     

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