Guardian of the Galatasaray: DeAndre Roselle Yedlin

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  1. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For anyone who missed the game:

     
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  2. kba4life

    kba4life Member

    Jun 4, 2009
    Claremont, California
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, some good moments in there mixed with poor execution on passes. He's always seemed to be a better crosser of the ball than a short on the ground passer. You'll be hard pressed to line up against a more talented lineup in club ball, so it's a performance to build off of, for sure.
     
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  3. Martin Fischer

    Martin Fischer Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Kampala. Uganda
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    RW, according to JK. I thought he was fantastic offensively for a right back. Two great crosses and runs (and in one case beating a top4 team starter in close quarters), plus another good pass. Defensively, three goals scored inside the box on his side (though a decent argument can be made that none of them were his fault). So, JK's apparent view that he isn't good enough defensively for a right back has got some legs.

    But for me, it's hard to judge his defensive performance in the context of a Sunderland team that is really that bad. And, offensively, I think his speed/skills work better at right back than right mid as he gets more space in front of to play into at right back, while at right mid he often finds himself in tighter spaces and needing to produce more than a couple of crosses a game to justify taking that role.
     
  4. Testudo

    Testudo Member+

    Jan 29, 1999
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They Reminisce Over Yedders...
     
  5. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    Dick Advocaat comments on Yedlin's debut:

    http://www.safc.com/news/team-news/2015/september/advocaat-praises-yedlin-and-cattermole

    It would appear that last sentence is driving Sunderland supporters crazy.
     
  6. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Very good debut. At the very least, he has shown that he can play in the Premier League. Contrast with Brek Shea's debut, for instance.

    The parts where he needs improvement seem to be the easier parts to fix and have a lot to do with team familiarity. Short combinations, defensive positioning.

    The parts where he excelled are very hard to do. Receiving long switches under pressure and transitioning to attack was fantastic. Speed and strength were also outstanding. Those qualities are hard to find and difficult or impossible to teach.

    The guy is simply ready and it's a wonder he didn't find minutes in Spurs.
     
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  7. Chance

    Chance Member+

    Minnesota United FC
    United States
    Apr 5, 2012
    Minneapolis, Minnesota
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Walker and Trippier are both at least as good as him, if not better, that's why.
     
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  8. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    My my...I still remember seeing this kid playing/starting for seattle in the CCL thinking how BIG he's going to be one day just based on how well he combined with Rosales on the wings....

    I remember calling him being a surprise addition toe the WC roster too when I saw his name. Huge potential for this kid if he keeps on the same path he's on.

    He has confidence in his movement, paassing and thought process. This is a big factor compared to our other players who tend to second guess too much. Not to mention his physical gifts.
     
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  9. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep. More pertinent question is why Spurs bought him in the first place. Good as he is, he's just surplus to their needs.
     
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  10. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Yes but, 11 minutes total since January? Typically when a player has so few minutes it's because he is clearly a level lower than the incumbents.
     
  11. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A few passes which could well have resulted in assists, one did, and he saved a goal. That's a big time influential game.
     
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  12. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    Either he had only 1 turnover or the edits were just all his positives. Absolutely outstanding according to the every touch video. Can't comment on the defensive side of the ball as i didn't watch the game.

    But massively impressed, I am.
     
  13. bmbersoccer5

    bmbersoccer5 Member

    Jul 29, 2009
    Cincinnati
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He obviously wasn't impressing the manager during his first 6 months, and that's okay. He's a player bought with the long view in mind, whether that's him becoming a fixture at Spurs in the next few years or him being sold comes down to his continued inprovement.

    During the majority of the spring he wasn't even competing with Walker (out injured frequently) or Trippier (still with Burnley). He wasn't beating out Dier (a 20 year old new signing playing out of position) or Chiricheș (another displaced CB) which wasn't particularly good even for a player moving to a new league, getting match fit, and transitioning to life abroad.
     
  14. justinpaul10

    justinpaul10 Member+

    Sep 2, 2013
    This. Personally I don't think his touch or speed of thought is good enough to play possession soccer at the center of the field so not an RW. As a RB he is fantastic as an offensive threat but needs a shielding defender in front of him or to cover when he is way out of position.
     
  15. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    You know, pre game I would have been ok with all this. He's a young player and there have been so many MLS players who were not able to make the grade. However, post game it seems like the Spurs technical staff were not very hot on him. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks this.

    Then again it's Spurs. They have a very spotty history with integrating players.
     
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  16. Fanatical Monk

    Fanatical Monk Member+

    Jun 14, 2011
    Fantasyland
    athletically hes elite. Technically, he's at the lower end of mls. It's going to take a special situation to utilize him, but if they can figure it out he's got the ability to change a game. See World Cup debut.
     
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  17. chrome_vapors

    chrome_vapors Member+

    Oct 15, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry but for me that's BS. Yedlin is nowhere near the lower end of MLS technically. At worst, and I mean at absolute worst, he's average.

    You see this all the time with soccer fans. They often pigeonhole the elite athletes of the sport as being poor technically or unsophisticated tactically, soley because of their physical gifts.
     
  18. Fanatical Monk

    Fanatical Monk Member+

    Jun 14, 2011
    Fantasyland
    Yes, thats what it is. Thanks for the couch doc.
     
  19. Deeneaus

    Deeneaus Member+

    Aug 29, 2007
    America/Deutschland
    Club:
    Arminia Bielefeld
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]

    I mean...everyone's entitled to their opinion, but oi!
     
  20. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wut?

    I can't think of a single MLS fullback who could pull off some of the touches Dre pulled off yesterday at the MLS level, let alone getting closed down in 1/3 the time against Man City.

    Actually, Dre's touch seems to have improved quite a bit since leaving MLS and I put it down to a higher tempo in training and adapting to far less time on the ball than in MLS. Touches, cleaner, speed of thought and execution, faster as otherwise you get punished. But that's often brought out of you at higher levels, hence the reason to seek higher levels.
     
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  21. chrome_vapors

    chrome_vapors Member+

    Oct 15, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Care to defend your claim?
     
  22. Fanatical Monk

    Fanatical Monk Member+

    Jun 14, 2011
    Fantasyland
    what am I going to do, put him on the standardized monk tech/athletic scale? It's subjective. i didn't see the whole game the other day, just highlights, looked good. But I also recently saw him struggle mightily with his close control and short passing with the nats. He's too fast for his touch. It's not like I'm the only one that thinks he'll struggle in a midfield role because of his technique, which is why I say what I do. If he ever really gets it, he'll be sought by better clubs than Spurs. As it is, he's got a heck of a pro career in front of him that I look forward to watching.

    Christ, you'd think I called him a racial epithet or something.
     
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  23. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich Member+

    Jul 11, 2006
    So many positives coming out of this match.

    1. Absolutely fearless in the face of a stacked lineup. Unlike his teammates, he was fighting and running at the pellegrinos the entire match.

    2. Fantastic attacking instincts.

    3. Extreme fitness level. Give JK his due if he helped this along.

    4. Crossing was terrific, passing was hit or miss, but when you pass forward, unlike virtually all US midfielders who go lateral or back, you sometimes make mistakes, but i give higher marks for each attacking pass than 15 safe passes.

    5. I mean, without a doubt MOTM in his first start. Brilliant.
     
  24. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    I'd say he's definitely not on the lower end of MLS when it comes to technique. But I also doubt his touch has significantly improved since training in England. Actually playing in the EPL didn't really seem to do much for Altidore's touch.
     
  25. chrome_vapors

    chrome_vapors Member+

    Oct 15, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Relax.

    You said technically he's at the lower end of MLS which is ridiculously inaccurate so I disputed that. That's all. No one's attacking you.


    I agree that running with the ball is his biggest technical deficiency. With his pace he'd be one hell of a player if he had better control running with the ball.
     
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