When will the MLS be top 4?

Discussion in 'MLS: Commissioner - You be The Don' started by Footsatt, Mar 8, 2013.

  1. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #301 Footsatt, Nov 5, 2014
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2014
    Added the Canadian TV contract numbers for NHL and added 2004.

    2014/15 SEASON
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 14/15 68,397 (13/14) 17.3m (13/14) $4.9b (2012-2022) $1.43b (13/14) $2m (13/14) 111.5m (13/14)
    MLB 30 2014 30,346 73.7m $1.55b (2012-2021) $810.9m (2013) $3.9m (2013) 9.1m (series avg)
    NBA 30 14/15 17,407 (13/14) 21.4m (13/14) $2.67b (2015-2025) $634m (13/14) $4.5m (13/14) 15.5m (13/14) (series avg)
    NHL 30 14/15 17,474 (13/14) 21.49m (13/14) $600m* (2012-2022) $413m (12/13) $2.4m (13/14) 4.8m (13/14) (series avg)
    MLS 20 2014 19,148 6.18m $90m (2015-2022) $103m (2012) $148k (2013) .5m (2013)

    *$400m Canadian

    2013/14 SEASON
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 13/14 68,397 17.3m $4.9b (2012-2022) $1.43b $2m 111.5m
    MLB 30 2013 30,514 74.0m $1.55b (2012-2021) $810.9m $3.9m 15.2m (series avg)
    NBA 30 13/14 17,407 21.4m $2.67b (2015-2025) $634m $4.5m 15.5m (series avg)
    NHL 30 13/14 17,474 21.49m $600m* (2012-2022) $413m (12/13) $2.4m 4.8m (series avg)
    MLS 19 2013 18,608 6m $90m (2015-2022) $103m (2012) $148k .5m

    *$400m Canadian

    2012/13 SEASON

    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 12/13 67,632 17.18m $4.9b (2012-2022) $1.17b $1.9m 111.34m
    MLB 30 2012 30,884 74.9m $1.55b (2012-2021) $605m $3.3m 12.7m (series avg)
    NBA 30 12/13 17,348 21.3m $930m (2012-2016) $509m $5.5m (11/12) 10.4m (series avg)
    NHL 30 12/13 17,768 22.2m $600m* (2012-2022) $413m $2.4m (11/12) 5.7m (series avg)
    MLS 19 2012 18,807 6m $27m $103m $143k .8m

    *$400m Canadian

    2011/12 SEASON - First Table: Posted March 2013
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACTAvg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 11/12 67,419 17.12m $4.9b (2012-2022) - - 108.4m
    MLB 30 2011 30,895 73.42m $1.55b (2012-2021) - - 18.9m (series avg)
    NBA 30 11/12 17,274 17.1m $930m (2012-2016) $393m $5.5m 16.2m (series avg)
    NHL 30 11/12 17,455 21.5m $200m (2012-2022) - $2.4m 2.9m (series avg)
    MLS 19 2011 17,872 5.5m $27m - - -


    2003/04 SEASON - Added to see how far MLS has come
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTENDANCETOTAL ATTENDANCETV CONTRACT
    NFL 32 03/04 66,409 17m -
    MLB 30 2004 30,576 over 70m -
    NBA 29 03/04 17,110 21.8m -
    NHL 30 03/04 16,106 - $60m (2005)
    MLS 10 2004 15,559 2.3m $0*

    * shared the advertising revenue with the Cable network
     
  2. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #302 Footsatt, Nov 24, 2014
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2014
    Updated average salaries for MLB and MLS. Also added some color coding. (Red = down, green = up)

    MLS salary source

    MLB salary source


    2014/15 SEASON
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 14/15 68,397 (13/14) 17.3m (13/14) $4.9b (2012-2022) $1.43b (13/14) $2m (13/14) 111.5m (13/14)
    MLB 30 2014 30,346 73.7m $1.55b (2012-2021) $810.9m (2013) $7.8m 9.1m (series avg)
    NBA 30 14/15 17,407 (13/14) 21.4m (13/14) $2.67b (2015-2025) $634m (13/14) $4.5m (13/14) 15.5m (13/14) (series avg)
    NHL 30 14/15 17,474 (13/14) 21.49m (13/14) $600m* (2012-2022) $413m (12/13) $2.4m (13/14) 4.8m (13/14) (series avg)
    MLS 20 2014 19,148 6.18m $90m (2015-2022) $103m (2012) $207k .5m (2013)

    *$400m Canadian

    2013/14 SEASON
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 13/14 68,397 17.3m $4.9b (2012-2022) $1.43b $2m 111.5m
    MLB 30 2013 30,514 74.0m $1.55b (2012-2021) $810.9m $3.9m 15.2m (series avg)
    NBA 30 13/14 17,407 21.4m $930m (2012-2016) $634m $4.5m 15.5m (series avg)
    NHL 30 13/14 17,474 21.49m $600m* (2012-2022) $413m (12/13) $2.4m 4.8m (series avg)
    MLS 19 2013 18,608 6m $27m $103m (2012) $148k .5m

    *$400m Canadian

    2012/13 SEASON

    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 12/13 67,632 17.18m $4.9b (2012-2022) $1.17b $1.9m 111.34m
    MLB 30 2012 30,884 74.9m $1.55b (2012-2021) $605m $3.3m 12.7m (series avg)
    NBA 30 12/13 17,348 21.3m $930m (2012-2016) $509m $5.5m (11/12) 10.4m (series avg)
    NHL 30 12/13 17,768 22.2m $600m* (2012-2022) $413m $2.4m (11/12) 5.7m (series avg)
    MLS 19 2012 18,807 6m $27m $103m $143k .8m

    *$400m Canadian

    2011/12 SEASON - First Table: Posted March 2013
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACTAvg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 11/12 67,419 17.12m $4.9b (2012-2022) - - 108.4m
    MLB 30 2011 30,895 73.42m $1.55b (2012-2021) - - 18.9m (series avg)
    NBA 30 11/12 17,274 17.1m $930m (2012-2016) $393m $5.5m 16.2m (series avg)
    NHL 30 11/12 17,455 21.5m $200m (2012-2022) - $2.4m 2.9m (series avg)
    MLS 19 2011 17,872 5.5m $27m - - -


    2003/04 SEASON - Added to see how far MLS has come
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTENDANCETOTAL ATTENDANCETV CONTRACT
    NFL 32 03/04 66,409 17m -
    MLB 30 2004 30,576 over 70m -
    NBA 29 03/04 17,110 21.8m -
    NHL 30 03/04 16,106 - $60m (2005)
    MLS 10 2004 15,559 2.3m $0*

    * shared the advertising revenue with the Cable network
     
  3. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS will never be top 4. Sorry.
     
  4. Mattbro

    Mattbro Member+

    Sep 21, 2001
    Horseracing and boxing will always be America's favorite sports.
     
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  5. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, the question has already been slanted by the OP. Neither horseracing or boxing are team sports. Like you, I took a broader approach.

    1. NFL
    2. College Football (Men's)
    3. MLB
    4. NBA
    5. College Basketball (Men's)
    ------------------------
    6. NHL
    7. MLS

    Rounding out the top 10, I'd say NASCAR has to be in there (replacing horseracing) and probably MMA/Ultimate fighting. And figure skating if the ratings are any indication.

    While I think overtaking the NHL is possible, I think the top 5 are going to be very tough to crack. Only chance is if we stop playing football altogether because of the head injury issue, then a top 4 spot will be open. Until then, nope.
     
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  6. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't count College Football or College Basketball because these guys are not professional. I now a lot of people watch college FB and BB, but there are no owners and no paid players, the people making money are the coaches the Universities and sponsors. If the system changes then they can be counted as professional sports.
     
  7. Mattbro

    Mattbro Member+

    Sep 21, 2001
    We really have no idea what will happen in the coming decades. No one saw the NFL juggernaut coming back in the days when boxing and horseracing were huge. It's impossible to say how popular MLS will be in 30 or 40 or 70 years. That's why a statement like "MLS will never be top 4" is impossible to back up (although I realize it's just your opinion and you're entitled to it).
     
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  8. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True, so I am going to call it. in 50 years, Double dutch will be the biggest sport in American! 10 trillion in annual revenues.
     
  9. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    2014/15 SEASON
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 14/15 68,397 (13/14) 17.3m (13/14) $4.9b (2012-2022) $1.43b (13/14) $2m (13/14) 111.5m (13/14)
    MLB 30 2014 30,346 73.7m $1.55b (2012-2021) $810.9m (2013) $7.8m 9.1m (series avg)
    NBA 30 14/15 17,407 (13/14) 21.4m (13/14) $2.67b (2015-2025) $634m (13/14) $4.5m (13/14) 15.5m (13/14) (series avg)
    NHL 30 14/15 17,474 (13/14) 21.49m (13/14) $600m* (2012-2022) $490m $2.4m (13/14) 4.8m (13/14) (series avg)
    MLS 20 2014 19,148 6.18m $90m (2015-2022) $103m (2012) $207k 1.9m^

    *$400m Canadian
    ^Includes ESPN Deportes, Univsion & Unimas. Previous charts only show ESPN or typical network TV.

    2013/14 SEASON
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 13/14 68,397 17.3m $4.9b (2012-2022) $1.43b $2m 111.5m
    MLB 30 2013 30,514 74.0m $1.55b (2012-2021) $810.9m $3.9m 15.2m (series avg)
    NBA 30 13/14 17,407 21.4m $930m (2012-2016) $634m $4.5m 15.5m (series avg)
    NHL 30 13/14 17,474 21.49m $600m* (2012-2022) $413m (12/13) $2.4m 4.8m (series avg)
    MLS 19 2013 18,608 6m $27m $103m (2012) $148k .5m

    *$400m Canadian

    2012/13 SEASON

    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 12/13 67,632 17.18m $4.9b (2012-2022) $1.17b $1.9m 111.34m
    MLB 30 2012 30,884 74.9m $1.55b (2012-2021) $605m $3.3m 12.7m (series avg)
    NBA 30 12/13 17,348 21.3m $930m (2012-2016) $509m $5.5m (11/12) 10.4m (series avg)
    NHL 30 12/13 17,768 22.2m $600m* (2012-2022) $413m $2.4m (11/12) 5.7m (series avg)
    MLS 19 2012 18,807 6m $27m $103m $143k .8m

    *$400m Canadian

    2011/12 SEASON - First Table: Posted March 2013
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACTAvg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 11/12 67,419 17.12m $4.9b (2012-2022) - - 108.4m
    MLB 30 2011 30,895 73.42m $1.55b (2012-2021) - - 18.9m (series avg)
    NBA 30 11/12 17,274 17.1m $930m (2012-2016) $393m $5.5m 16.2m (series avg)
    NHL 30 11/12 17,455 21.5m $200m (2012-2022) - $2.4m 2.9m (series avg)
    MLS 19 2011 17,872 5.5m $27m - - -


    2003/04 SEASON - Added to see how far MLS has come
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTENDANCETOTAL ATTENDANCETV CONTRACT
    NFL 32 03/04 66,409 17m -
    MLB 30 2004 30,576 over 70m -
    NBA 29 03/04 17,110 21.8m -
    NHL 30 03/04 16,106 - $60m (2005)
    MLS 10 2004 15,559 2.3m $0*

    * shared the advertising revenue with the Cable network
     
  10. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pugilism lost all of us tradition loving gents when they wrapped their fists in cotton like a bunch of Cornish Fishwives.
     
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  11. waltlantz

    waltlantz Member

    Jul 6, 2010
    If MLS converted all the Liga MX viewers and EPL viewers to their league, I think we'd have something around "top 4". I don't see how you do so otherwise.
     
  12. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #313 Footsatt, Dec 19, 2014
    Last edited: Dec 19, 2014
    Slow growth over 30 years would do it.

    In ten years MLS has gone from:
    $0 TV contract to $90m TV contract
    10 teams to 20 teams
    Average attendance of 15.5k to 19k
    Total attendance of 2.3m to 6.1m

    Edit:
    It could look like this in 30 years (Hopefully it doesn't take this long):
    $270m TV contract
    32 teams... I don't think the league will get bigger then this, but who knows???
    32.5k average attendance
    18m total attendance

    Remember less then 10 years ago the NHL had a TV contract of $60m now it is at $490m. A lot can happen in a short amount of time.
     
  13. waltlantz

    waltlantz Member

    Jul 6, 2010
    I see where you're coming from. It assumes of course there is no ceiling or barriers to additional growth.
     
  14. AranhaHunter

    AranhaHunter Member

    Sep 26, 2013
    Highly unlikely. If that happens, then that will be a failure. I see $200-$300M/year when the next TV contract comes around in 2022.
     
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  15. bremen24

    bremen24 Member

    Jul 12, 2014
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I would not so glibly predict future TV contracts.

    The rapid rise in TV contracts is fueled entirely by increases in carriage costs of the sports networks. The current calculus is that if a sports network has a premium property cable companies cannot risk dropping that station for fear of losing their subscribers. Particularly young males.

    Already we are seeing the first cracks in this regime in LA. For the entire season ~70% of the greater LA area was unable to watch Dodgers game on TV. TWC which paid ~325mm/yr for 25 years for the rights is demanding somewhere around $4/subscriber to carry the channel the games are on. Other cable companies balked and refused to carry the channel. Most importantly, as far as I can tell, consumers have not flocked to TWC over their competitors.

    If this pattern repeats in other markets it will mark an end to the massive increases in TV deals as the fuel to fund them will have been removed.

    There are also demographic issues as well. Millennials are starting to drop cable subscriptions. I cannot speak for others, but I'm not about to pay $70/month just to watch MLS games. If enough others feel this way then it will absolutely kill TV deals.
     
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  16. waltlantz

    waltlantz Member

    Jul 6, 2010
    this is a good point. Mind you I root for MLS and TV wont just up and die next year. But those balooning contracts are gonna hit a wall in the future.
     
  17. 4four4

    4four4 Member+

    Nov 13, 2013
    Land of 10,000 Lakes
    Correct. For all we know MLS will be televised on ABC,NBC,CBS or FOX.
     
  18. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ...or just online and cable TV could be obsolete.
     
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  19. 4four4

    4four4 Member+

    Nov 13, 2013
    Land of 10,000 Lakes
    Wouldn't that be great???
     
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  20. BrodieQPR

    BrodieQPR Member

    Jun 27, 2010
    Michigan
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    if MLS were broadcast online via subscription, even it's current levels of TV revenue would likely be beyond it's reach.

    The death of cable TV and bundling will pop the sports bubble pretty completely.
     
  21. AranhaHunter

    AranhaHunter Member

    Sep 26, 2013
  22. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks....


    2014/15 SEASON
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 14/15 68,397 (13/14) 17.3m (13/14) $4.9b (2012-2022) $1.43b (13/14) $2m (13/14) 111.5m (13/14)
    MLB 30 2014 30,346 73.7m $1.55b (2012-2021) $810.9m (2013) $7.8m 9.1m (series avg)
    NBA 30 14/15 17,407 (13/14) 21.4m (13/14) $2.67b (2015-2025) $1.1b $4.5m (13/14) 15.5m (13/14) (series avg)
    NHL 30 14/15 17,474 (13/14) 21.49m (13/14) $600m* (2012-2022) $490m $2.4m (13/14) 4.8m (13/14) (series avg)
    MLS 20 2014 19,148 6.18m $90m (2015-2022) $103m (2012) $207k 1.9m^

    *$400m Canadian
    ^Includes ESPN Deportes, Univsion & Unimas.

    2013/14 SEASON
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 13/14 68,397 17.3m $4.9b (2012-2022) $1.43b $2m 111.5m
    MLB 30 2013 30,514 74.0m $1.55b (2012-2021) $810.9m $3.9m 15.2m (series avg)
    NBA 30 13/14 17,407 21.4m $930m (2012-2016) $634m $4.5m 15.5m (series avg)
    NHL 30 13/14 17,474 21.49m $600m* (2012-2022) $413m (12/13) $2.4m 4.8m (series avg)
    MLS 19 2013 18,608 6m $27m $103m (2012) $148k .5m

    *$400m Canadian

    2012/13 SEASON

    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 12/13 67,632 17.18m $4.9b (2012-2022) $1.17b $1.9m 111.34m
    MLB 30 2012 30,884 74.9m $1.55b (2012-2021) $605m $3.3m 12.7m (series avg)
    NBA 30 12/13 17,348 21.3m $930m (2012-2016) $509m $5.5m (11/12) 10.4m (series avg)
    NHL 30 12/13 17,768 22.2m $600m* (2012-2022) $413m $2.4m (11/12) 5.7m (series avg)
    MLS 19 2012 18,807 6m $27m $103m $143k .8m

    *$400m Canadian

    2011/12 SEASON - First Table: Posted March 2013
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACTAvg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 11/12 67,419 17.12m $4.9b (2012-2022) - - 108.4m
    MLB 30 2011 30,895 73.42m $1.55b (2012-2021) - - 18.9m (series avg)
    NBA 30 11/12 17,274 17.1m $930m (2012-2016) $393m $5.5m 16.2m (series avg)
    NHL 30 11/12 17,455 21.5m $200m (2012-2022) - $2.4m 2.9m (series avg)
    MLS 19 2011 17,872 5.5m $27m - - -


    2003/04 SEASON - Added to see how far MLS has come
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTENDANCETOTAL ATTENDANCETV CONTRACT
    NFL 32 03/04 66,409 17m -
    MLB 30 2004 30,576 over 70m -
    NBA 29 03/04 17,110 21.8m -
    NHL 30 03/04 16,106 - $60m (2005)
    MLS 10 2004 15,559 2.3m $0*

    * shared the advertising revenue with the Cable network
     
  23. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Updating some of the NFL 2014/15 season numbers...


    2014/15 SEASON
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 14/15 68,000 17.36m $4.9b (2012-2022) $1.43b (13/14) $2m (13/14) 114.5m
    MLB 30 2014 30,346 73.7m $1.55b (2012-2021) $810.9m (2013) $7.8m 9.1m (series avg)
    NBA 30 14/15 17,407 (13/14) 21.4m (13/14) $2.67b (2015-2025) $1.1b $4.5m (13/14) 15.5m (13/14) (series avg)
    NHL 30 14/15 17,474 (13/14) 21.49m (13/14) $600m* (2012-2022) $490m $2.4m (13/14) 4.8m (13/14) (series avg)
    MLS 20 2014 19,148 6.18m $90m (2015-2022) $103m (2012) $207k 1.9m^

    *$400m Canadian
    ^Includes ESPN Deportes, Univsion & Unimas.

    2013/14 SEASON
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 13/14 68,397 17.3m $4.9b (2012-2022) $1.43b $2m 111.5m
    MLB 30 2013 30,514 74.0m $1.55b (2012-2021) $810.9m $3.9m 15.2m (series avg)
    NBA 30 13/14 17,407 21.4m $930m (2012-2016) $634m $4.5m 15.5m (series avg)
    NHL 30 13/14 17,474 21.49m $600m* (2012-2022) $413m (12/13) $2.4m 4.8m (series avg)
    MLS 19 2013 18,608 6m $27m $103m (2012) $148k .5m

    *$400m Canadian

    2012/13 SEASON

    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 12/13 67,632 17.18m $4.9b (2012-2022) $1.17b $1.9m 111.34m
    MLB 30 2012 30,884 74.9m $1.55b (2012-2021) $605m $3.3m 12.7m (series avg)
    NBA 30 12/13 17,348 21.3m $930m (2012-2016) $509m $5.5m (11/12) 10.4m (series avg)
    NHL 30 12/13 17,768 22.2m $600m* (2012-2022) $413m $2.4m (11/12) 5.7m (series avg)
    MLS 19 2012 18,807 6m $27m $103m $143k .8m

    *$400m Canadian

    2011/12 SEASON - First Table: Posted March 2013
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACTAvg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 11/12 67,419 17.12m $4.9b (2012-2022) - - 108.4m
    MLB 30 2011 30,895 73.42m $1.55b (2012-2021) - - 18.9m (series avg)
    NBA 30 11/12 17,274 17.1m $930m (2012-2016) $393m $5.5m 16.2m (series avg)
    NHL 30 11/12 17,455 21.5m $200m (2012-2022) - $2.4m 2.9m (series avg)
    MLS 19 2011 17,872 5.5m $27m - - -


    2003/04 SEASON - Added to see how far MLS has come
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTENDANCETOTAL ATTENDANCETV CONTRACT
    NFL 32 03/04 66,409 17m -
    MLB 30 2004 30,576 over 70m -
    NBA 29 03/04 17,110 21.8m -
    NHL 30 03/04 16,106 - $60m (2005)
    MLS 10 2004 15,559 2.3m $0*

    * shared the advertising revenue with the Cable network
     
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  24. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #325 Footsatt, May 5, 2015
    Last edited: May 5, 2015
    Some more updates...


    2014/15 SEASON
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 14/15 68,000 17.36m $4.9b (2012-2022) $1.43b (13/14) $2m (13/14) 114.5m
    MLB 30 2014 30,346 73.7m $1.55b (2012-2021) $1.2b $7.8m 9.1m (series avg)
    NBA 30 14/15 17,407 (13/14) 21.4m (13/14) $2.67b (2015-2025) $634m (13/14) $4.5m (13/14) 15.5m (13/14) (series avg)
    NHL 30 14/15 17,474 (13/14) 21.49m (13/14) $600m* (2012-2022) $490m $2.4m (13/14) 4.8m (13/14) (series avg)
    MLS 20 2014 19,148 6.18m $90m (2015-2022) $103m (2012) $207k 1.9m^

    *$400m Canadian
    ^Includes ESPN Deportes, Univsion & Unimas.

    2013/14 SEASON
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 13/14 68,000 17.3m $4.9b (2012-2022) $1.43b $2m 111.5m
    MLB 30 2013 30,514 74.0m $1.55b (2012-2021) $810.9m $3.9m 15.2m (series avg)
    NBA 30 13/14 17,407 21.4m $930m (2012-2016) $634m $4.5m 15.5m (series avg)
    NHL 30 13/14 17,474 21.49m $600m* (2012-2022) $413m (12/13) $2.4m 4.8m (series avg)
    MLS 19 2013 18,608 6m $27m $103m (2012) $148k .5m

    *$400m Canadian

    2012/13 SEASON

    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 12/13 67,632 17.18m $4.9b (2012-2022) $1.17b $1.9m 111.34m
    MLB 30 2012 30,884 74.9m $1.55b (2012-2021) $605m $3.3m 12.7m (series avg)
    NBA 30 12/13 17,348 21.3m $930m (2012-2016) $509m $5.5m (11/12) 10.4m (series avg)
    NHL 30 12/13 17,768 22.2m $600m* (2012-2022) $413m $2.4m (11/12) 5.7m (series avg)
    MLS 19 2012 18,807 6m $27m $103m $143k .8m

    *$400m Canadian

    2011/12 SEASON - First Table: Posted March 2013
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACTAvg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV RATINGS
    NFL 32 11/12 67,419 17.12m $4.9b (2012-2022) - - 108.4m
    MLB 30 2011 30,895 73.42m $1.55b (2012-2021) - - 18.9m (series avg)
    NBA 30 11/12 17,274 17.1m $930m (2012-2016) $393m $5.5m 16.2m (series avg)
    NHL 30 11/12 17,455 21.5m $200m (2012-2022) - $2.4m 2.9m (series avg)
    MLS 19 2011 17,872 5.5m $27m - - -


    2003/04 SEASON - Added to see how far MLS has come
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTENDANCETOTAL ATTENDANCETV CONTRACT
    NFL 32 03/04 66,409 17m -
    MLB 30 2004 30,576 over 70m -
    NBA 29 03/04 17,110 21.8m -
    NHL 30 03/04 16,106 - $60m (2005)
    MLS 10 2004 15,559 2.3m $0*

    * shared the advertising revenue with the Cable network
     

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