MLS sale of Chivas USA looming(?) asking price varies from one source to the next

How many years does it take to get this info out there? It is tickets distributed not sold.

distributed > sold

I just set 5k tickets down on the sidewalk...attendance goes up 5k just like that. Not saying teams are doing that...cough...Chivas USA...cough.

 

"jumping on the Galaxy death-watch"???
You must be reading a different thread. I haven't once seen this.

You like to exaggerate and use phrases to get your point across. "but fairy dust and crap"

Unfortunately it isn't helping.

 

Hispanics are a core demographic of MLS, at just over a 3rd of the league's fans. That's several times more than any other sport, and the percentage in certain markets is probably way over a 3rd. I'm not sure it's really a fallacy in some parts of the country.

 

While it is entirely possible my crappy writing style gave the impression, I'm not saying teams should ignore the Hispanic market, but rather that the argument that itself is a fallacy. Simply because a market has a large Hispanic community it doesn't necessarily mean that is an indicator for future success.

 

Definition of Hyperbole

Hyperbole, derived from a Greek word meaning “over-casting” is a figure of speech, which involves an exaggeration of ideas for the sake of emphasis.

 

Like I said, It isn't helping.
P.S. you still haven't answered my previous question to you about stadium timelines etc.

 

"Simply because a market has a large Hispanic community it doesn't necessarily mean that is an indicator for future success."

True. But likewise, Harrison NJ is not Monterey Park CA. Assuming tepid historical attendance for Red Bulls has zero predictive value for success of a well run and well capitalized team playing in Weingart on a temporary basis. Such team would sell out regularly even if viewed as a start-up with low expectations.

 

Uh... What?

The important part of your statement is "well run and well capitalized team". Having that "well run and well capitalized team" in a non-Hispanic community will be just as successful as a "well run and well capitalized team" in a Hispanic community. The indicative factor is not the racial make-up of the community, but rather the "well run and well capitalized team". If you put a "poorly run team" in a Hispanic community it will fail just as hard as it would in a non-Hispanic community.

 

Precisely. Chivas would have failed in Weingart too. But A well run and well capitalized team will do very very well in Monterey Park while such team finds a permanent home, hopefully in downtown LA vicinity ....

 

Monterey Park, man. I might have to switch allegiances just to get good dim sum after a game.

 

Best Chinese food on the West Coast. Hands down. Yeah SF Chinatown. You are being played. ( I'm not including Vancouver BC)

 

Over 23% of MLS fans are Latino, not sure about at the stadium.

That is the highest in all major sports in the USA.






http://opendorse.com/2013-sports-fan-demographics/

 

Which is completely independent of this comment:

My entire point is that the above statement needs to die a quick death. A team that is successful attendance wise is only successful because it can tap the community around it, regardless of the racial make-up of that community. Some of MLS's most successful teams attendance wise are in communities that don't have a large number of Hispanics, or their fanbase is not made up of a large number of Hispanics, while some of their least successful teams are in communities with a large number of Hispanics.

 

This thread is about teams in Los Angeles. If they don't have Latino fans, they don't have fans.

 

Here, let me highlight something from my comment for you because you clearly missed it:

You are correct, a team in LA that doesn't tap the Hispanic community will fail, but a team that focuses only on Hispanics and ignores the rest of LA's community will fail as well.

 

That is cool and all, but still doesn't mean putting an MLS team in a Latino neighborhood guarantees success and that the stadium will be sold out. Like the poster that I was quoting suggested.
If Latinos were coming out in droves to support MLS teams then MLS would be as big as NBA or bigger actually(probably close to NFL). There are a lot of Latinos in the US if you haven't noticed

 

It's in the middle of where hardcore Latino soccer fans live. Yeah that's a fact about Weingart. That assertion has nothing to to with catering to Latino fans . What has to die a quick death ? Catering to Latino fans only ? Yeah that's probably true. But neither I nor anyone else on this thread is saying that. Don't conflate a simple a simple factual statement into some other assertion not made, which you don't like. The fact is Weingart is in a great location to draw fans from the community, on foot, given a good product. That many are Latino is secondary. That many are hardcore soccer fans is primary --and the point at least one person here cannot seem to grasp.

 

he said the IDEA that putting a team in a Latino region guarantees success is what needs to die, not catering to them.

 

Hardcore Latino fans probably only follow and care about their team from back home. I have met many of these types in the San Jose area. Probably easier to attract fans of the sport who are not so attached to a team.
Having been to several Sounder home games I am of the opinion that a big chunk of the fans doing such a great job of supporting the team now were not drawn out of the base of "hardcore" soccer fans that exist in the area. The Sounders were able to create an experience that captured the interest of a wide range of fans.

 

Hard to see that as the lesson, since when Chivas USA was a more respectable draw, LA Galaxy attendance was also higher.

 

but you're trying to sell the team now, not back then. i guess you could use the old 'it's the best time to buy' argument. but then, it's also said that trying to call a market bottom is an easy way to lose your money.

 

About 17-20%

So over all Latinos make up a bigger percentage of fans of MLS as our population would indicate, sure we (specially first and second Gen.) like soccer as our #1 sport, so that may explain the difference.

So as far as I can tell, Latinos do a pretty good job on supporting MLS.

http://nbclatino.com/2013/02/16/lat...on-but-growth-is-from-births-not-immigration/

Now regarding location, well Bridgeview Illinois is in a heavy Latino area, that has not helped the Fire a lot in terms of attendance (it does not help that we suck).

 

I really wish they wouldn't include one event per week things like NASCAR and UFC when they do this. Makes no sense comparing attendance of one event to the average attendance of 10 to 15 events.

 

Well NFL only has 8 home games per team (plus 2 preseason), but you can't leave out the Big boy in American sports.

NCAA Football is the same, and they are still the 2nd biggest sporting league in the USA.


Plus NHL, NBA and even more so MLB could say the same thing to any league that has less than 30 home events in one year.

 

In Bridgeview I had the best Mexican food I ever had. Of course coming from the Washington-Baltimore area that means very little.