Stadium proposal sites?

Discussion in 'Jacksonville Armada FC' started by JaxFC, Jul 31, 2013.

  1. mamitchell

    mamitchell Member

    Jul 27, 2006
    Jacksonville, FL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    By the way, driving by the "Dune" area today, I saw a sign that Lennar homes is putting up a new development in there, probably townhomes.
     
  2. phatphelix

    phatphelix New Member

    Aug 11, 2013
    Club:
    RCD Mallorca
    I would be disappointed if the stadium went somewhere other than downtown. You want the games to be events, attracting more than just the soccer die-hards. I don't think you get that at a suburban facility.
     
  3. G Enriquez

    G Enriquez Member+

    Apr 1, 2002
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. Prosoccercdn

    Prosoccercdn Member+

    Aug 6, 2011
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    So UNF Hodges Stadium with 9400 capacity or the Baseball Stadium with 11K and located in downtown.
    Downtown location sounds better if they can config it well for NASL but its a Baseball park.
     
  5. Macsen

    Macsen Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why limit yourselves? The Citrus Bowl served Orlando City well. Everbank Field could do the same for the Armada.

    Of course, the end of the season would conflict with the Jaguars, but personally I'd take playing a month or two on gridiron over playing all season on a sodded-over infield.
     
  6. Bluesfan

    Bluesfan Member+

    DC United
    Aug 12, 2000
    Tampa
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Limit themselves? The track stadium at UNF is a perfect size (10k) and they won't realistically be able to exceed that. If Jacksonville is following the San Antonio template and have a legitimate stadium plan in the works, where they play the first season or two won't really matter all that much. Unless they could get into EverBank on the cheap, they are much better off at a smaller venue.
     
  7. Macsen

    Macsen Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is that. City got a plum deal for the Citrus Bowl (read: the city was desperate for a tenant, and by sheer fortune we literally became the best non-handegg thing to happen to them since the World Cup). Everbank is not the sh*thole the Citrus Bowl was, and already has a marquee tenant in the Jaguars.

    Probably the only hope the Armada would have for a cheap deal, if they pursued it, would be the fact that Shad Khan is a soccer fan. (Or maybe if Shad bought the Armada...)
     
  8. Macsen

    Macsen Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Okay, I just got a new idea.

    Shad Khan is looking at redeveloping the Shipyards. And that parcel at the east end looks like the perfect size for a soccer-specific stadium.

    Start at 10,000, with room to grow. It can use the parking lots already in place on the other side of SR 228.
     
  9. PTFCfan

    PTFCfan Member

    Mar 25, 2014
    Portland, OR, USA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What if you took a Timbers approach and turn the Baseball Grounds of Jacksonville into a soccer specific stadium. The Suns never had good attendance records anyway and the location of the ballpark is right in the heart of downtown. :D
     
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  10. Mad Hattah

    Mad Hattah Member

    Jun 7, 2000
    North Florida
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]

    Here is a rendering of how the field will look at the Baseball Grounds of Jacksonville. It actually looks pretty good. Nice sight lines along the edge of the field, and the seats near either goal look solid. Only negative is the supporters terrace is off to the side.
     
  11. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Based on the picture, the field looks very narrow.

    But based on this, the location looks pretty good (the one positive about baseball stadiums, location).

    [​IMG]
     
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  12. Mad Hattah

    Mad Hattah Member

    Jun 7, 2000
    North Florida
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here is another rendering of the proposed field layout:

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Mad Hattah

    Mad Hattah Member

    Jun 7, 2000
    North Florida
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. mamitchell

    mamitchell Member

    Jul 27, 2006
    Jacksonville, FL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am very happy with the choice...the team should be downtown.
     
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  15. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nice.

    Are they going to sod/re-sod all the time or not?

    Looks like a pretty venue.
     
  16. Mad Hattah

    Mad Hattah Member

    Jun 7, 2000
    North Florida
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good question on the sod/resod issue. I really hope they do as playing in dirt is terrible.

    It is a very nice place to watch a baseball game, and I'm excited the picked the downtown location. Hopefully the start of something special in Jax.
     
  17. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    My guess is no. I believe that when DC United shared RFK with the Nationals the cost of each field conversion was $40,000. I'm sure the only reason this occurred is because the Nationals paid for the conversions.
     
  18. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is REALLY expensive to do. It would have been completely out of the reach of most D2 teams over time. But it might be worth it.
     
  19. Blando13

    Blando13 Member+

    Dec 4, 2013
    Lee's Summit, MO
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If this is a somewhat "permenant" (more than 1 season) and they invest in a "removable" mound ... this sort of thing isn't all that hard to do. I have a family member that was head of the crew that was in charge of changing it over for the KC Wizards when they played in the independent league baseball stadium the couple of years before moving into Sporting Park. It's managable ... although not ideal for sure.
     
  20. Mad Hattah

    Mad Hattah Member

    Jun 7, 2000
    North Florida
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe the Armada will be playing at least 3 seasons in the stadium.
     
  21. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Though, to be fair, OnGoal had a lot more resources than an NASL team and the baseball team in question in Kansas City was in a league that only played 96 games, while the Southern League plays 140.

    The mound is one issue. The infield dirt is another.
     
  22. Blando13

    Blando13 Member+

    Dec 4, 2013
    Lee's Summit, MO
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Very true. I didn't really know about the games played ... and who knows how many home games the NASL teams will have in the next few years. When they add Canada and put them all in a single table and get D1 Status from USSF ... oh wait ... wrong thread!
     
  23. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, the Armada will be playing in a league using yet another format, it appears.
     
  24. Blando13

    Blando13 Member+

    Dec 4, 2013
    Lee's Summit, MO
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eh, to those that like to hate on the constant change of format ... really ... get a life, who cares, every season (hopefully) some teams are going to play some games vs one another, at the end of the year, there's going to be some winners of some things (maybe mid season winners too). Anything else is negotiable!
     
  25. Mad Hattah

    Mad Hattah Member

    Jun 7, 2000
    North Florida
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Back to the stadium, are there any pubs nearby? I've only been to one Suns game and it was a couple years ago.
     

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