Who do you guys think is the most talented of these 4 players??? And How would you rate them from what you've seen from them so far??? Neymar was a monster for Brazil at the confed cup and based on potential, he's slightly better than the others. But i haven't been very impressed with what i've seen him at Barca (except in very few games) and IMO he isn't worth the price he was bought for (the same goes for Bale also by the way). Hazard has been consistantly very good for Chelsea since the Christmas period this season, before then, he alternated between good and forgettable performances. But he's been the main Man for Chelsea this season. Bale has suffered few injuries these season, but whenever he's in form, i think he's been very good for Madrid (except maybe in very few games). Götze has had good performances here & there for Bayern, but also as much forgettable ones too. IMO he's more suited for the Dortmund style of play than Bayern's, but with that been said, i still think he'll be a huge success at Bayern. Based on what i've seen so far from them, the order in which i rate them is as follows : 1) Hazard 2) Bale 3) Neymar & Götze (i don't think one has been better than the other so far).
I can tell it's TOTALLY distorted the FACT. When rating a player one had to assess all games and vs different opponents. In the whole bunch, Gotze was the LEAST proven so no comparison here ... he was the WEAKEST link OBVOUOSLY ... (excused with injury or not but FACT) At club level, I kinda (arguably) agree Hazzard did shine a bit better than both Neymar and Bale. But it's DIFFERENT league games style - as we are NOT sure if the result is same when switching Neymar to EPL and Hazzard to liga Bale in EPL was a bit better than Hazzard already ... (different year) Now that's CLUB only, look at international club and national team, Neymar SHONE much better than both Hazard and Bale So in OVERALL: 1- Hazard (better club but worse NT) = Neymar (slightly worse at club but much better NT) 2- Bale (very good at club but UNPROVEN in NT) ... Gotze (not well proven at club, and brief flash good for NT)
Götze not proven anything at club level??? Did you watch him when he was in Dortmund? Even with Bayern this season, he's had several good games. So far, are you saying that Neymar is having a better season than Gotze???
Definitely so and CLEARLY so If not for Messi, Neymar would be easily the BEST player for Barca with Alxis close behind
I dunno about definitely, clearly and easily. I mean, Götze has roughly the same kinda stats than Neymar. 30+ matches, 12 goals. Maybe Neymar has been better, maybe not, but they've been on somewhat the same level I'd say. And Neymar definitely isn't "easily the best" in Barca this season after Messi. He has done well enough and is among the better players, but he hasn't done as well as you suggest. For example, Pedro and Alexis easily outscore him, while Cesc beats him in both goals and assists. And that's only to include players whose contributions lean on attacking - you can't exclude others the way you do.
Most Barca fans don't even agree with this lol Pedro, Alexis, Iniesta & Cesc (Messi too but that goes without saying) are all having a better season so far than Neymar. And nothing shown on the pitch so f
who ARE YOU to say that? FACT said: Neymar was the MOST FOULED, MOST dribble and Keypasses in BARCA who cares what thsoe FAN BOYS say....
Absolutely laughable, anyone who watches Bale for Wales would tell you he has been their best player by quite some distance, also scoring some very important goals for them. Also up until recently...Wales have reached their highest position in the World rankings than what they've ever done throughout their entire history, and any Welshmen would tell you he's been the main contributor whilst they've achieved that. Both Bale and Neymar are better players than Hazard, Hazard is the most experienced player and is more proven in Europe than Neymar though. Gotze is the only player I can't really comment on so it's unfair for me to rank him. 1. Bale 2. Neymar 3. Hazard I think Neymar and Hazard aren't too far apart from each other from an abilty point of view, Neymar it seems he has the potential to grow much better though, hence me ranking him above Hazard. Bale is head and shoulders above them both.
Dunno how you define a "key pass", but this isn't a fact. If you mean assists, Messi, Cesc and Alexis all have more than him.
that's the only thing factual in what you said and it also has to do with the fact that Neymar goes down easier than any other Barca player.
Iniesta passed his best Busquets is a DM ... different task and role ... surely LOWER salary (importance) then Neymar
and yes, in his very first season in Europe >> Gotze first season. and even now Neymar is currently TOP5 best players in LIGA (2nd best in Barca) Gotze was ot even TOP10 best in Budesliga and not TOP3 best in Bayern Neymar got more keypasses and was fouled much more then Gotze was. Neymar 9goals+8ass/18 liga >= Gotze 8gaols+6ass/16 bundesliga
Judging from your posts regarding Neymar's season, i seriously doubt you watch a lot of Barca games. Seems like you only judge Neymar's potential, and not what's actually going on on the pitch. If you look around the internet on any Barca forum, you won't find fans saying that Neymar has been top 3 Barca player this season lol. I may be wrong, but it also seems like you don't watch much of Madrid, Chelsea and Bayern either..
I wouldn't say so. He is joint 20th top scorer in Liga. Sure, goal stats aren't everything. But it's not like he out-assists everyone (even in Barca). And you also gotta consider goalies, defs etc when you talk about best players. He's done well, but not THAT well. I'd agree he has been better than Götze though (although gotta say I haven't watched Götze that much).
I never said Neymar is "great" in liga nor that he is best there. But to say he is "UNproven" is just nonsense non fact His STATS showed he is comfortably among the TOP10 best FW rightnow