Ongoing Chivas USA Current News (Coaching Changes, Legal Issues etc...) Thread Returns

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  1. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually the Galaxy have minimized Los Angeles so much from their identity with the push to be the LA Galaxy that I'd argue Los Angeles as a name is there for the taking.
     
  2. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe they should talk to the Clippers and Angels. Despite always being the "second team" they've had decent, now great attendance playing in the same building/region as the "first team". I don't see why Chivas couldn't replicate that. If anything the Clippers and Angels prove there is an ample population of contrarians in LA that don't want to root for the trendy bigger name first teams.
     
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  3. scott47a

    scott47a Member+

    Seattle Sounders FC; Arsenal FC
    Feb 6, 2007
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fair enough, but you have to find a niche somehow. If there are two LA teams playing in the same stadium, one with several league championships, and charging similarly for tickets and such, what makes people choose LAFC (or SC) over the more established team?

    Maybe @athletics68 is right and there are more than enough people who would just want something other than the Galaxy. But it's hard for me to understand when the Galaxy doesn't sell out every game as it is.
     
  4. 30King

    30King Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Rocklin, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Was going to say almost the same thing.
     
  5. holly nichole music

    May 3, 2012
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    A re-brand is an excellent start no doubt. But as others have noted, a physical move is essential. Not working with USC to make the sports arena site viable is crazy. A proven decent team in downtown LA, or near downtown LA, would secure higher attendance than LAG most years unless LAG is coming off a championship year or has signed Chicharito .......etc
     
  6. 30King

    30King Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Rocklin, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    That's what I think. You don't have to find a niche, cater to a specific ethnic group, or be the "working class" team. Just being the "other" team, in a huge market is enough, as the Clipppers, Mets, Angles and Raiders have proven. The fan bases sort themselves out.

    The Gals not selling out is just proof that the sport is still growing in popularity (and the best reason why the Chivas/LAFC should move somewhere else). The casual soccer fan base is not willing to drive all the way across LA for a game yet, like they do for a Lakers/clippers game.
     
  7. 30King

    30King Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Rocklin, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I agree. The Gals or Chivas, one of them should be falling over themselves to partner with USC; great location.
     
  8. 30King

    30King Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Rocklin, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I even think Dodger stadium would be a good spot. In LA distance, that is a world away from Stubhub.
     
  9. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a good location, not great. And Dodger Stadium is the largest MLB venue out there. Playing there would be akin to the old MLS 1.0 trend of using old NFL only stadiums but with even worse sight lines.
     
  10. 30King

    30King Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Rocklin, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I'm going by what's reasonably available, close to downtown. Let me re-state; good location, appears to be/have been a great opportunity
     
  11. Bubba1971

    Bubba1971 Member+

    Nov 12, 2010
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dodger stadium is out. No way an MLS schedule and MLB schedule would be compatible, not to mention the farce of 4,000 people in a 56,000 stadium.

    Weingart is the best choice, and could happen tomorrow. It makes so much sense that it will never come to be.
     
  12. dundee9

    dundee9 Member

    Jan 13, 2007
    Then I guess you haven't been on the metro during a USC football home game. From Culver City to the stadium its full of USC fans. And its a no brainer travel wise..lets see $4 round trip on the metro or $40 to park my car? Not only that I can have a few beers at the game.

    I take the metro all the time to DTLA now. If LAFC moved to DTLA I would support them. I'd buy season tickets.

    As far as a community club. I'm not saying that they would only get their fans from the community. What I am saying is that soccer is huge in the surrounding areas around DTLA and they would get a lot of walk-up support (people walking to the games and taking public transport).
     
  13. TobaccoMonopolyFC

    Oct 12, 2011
    Club:
    AS Monaco FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahamas
    The problem with Weingart (and LB Memorial), aside from the track, is that it's kind of spartan. It'd need to be spruced up a bit. That's much cheaper than building a new stadium, but it would take some money.
     
  14. Bubba1971

    Bubba1971 Member+

    Nov 12, 2010
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It would be a temporary stadium for sure, sort of like Buck Shaw. But Buck Shaw has allowed the Earthquakes to build on their "us against everything else" brand. Say what you want about it (and as a Galaxy fan I have a lot to say about it) but at least it's an identity, which CUSA is pretty much completely lacking.

    Having their own stadium in ELA would at least help CUSA start to actually BE SOMETHING other than MLS tag alongs, even if they do have to use porta potties.
     
  15. 30King

    30King Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Rocklin, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Not in Dodger Stadium. I thought there was talk of a purpose built SSS next to Dodger stadium????
     
  16. Bubba1971

    Bubba1971 Member+

    Nov 12, 2010
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I actually thought this was a pretty nice stadium.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_Field
     
  17. scott47a

    scott47a Member+

    Seattle Sounders FC; Arsenal FC
    Feb 6, 2007
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fun place for soccer, but not a luxury box to be seen. A lot more money to be made in BC Place
     
  18. Eric B

    Eric B Member

    Feb 21, 2000
    the LBC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's because it was actually pig-dog American imperialism, duh!
     
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  19. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I don't agree with the whole MLS=hex soccer balls=cheap and cheezy thing you have going. However, I've got to say that the ball looks pasted on top the shield. Either integrate it nicely into the shield or go without.
     
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  20. Bubba1971

    Bubba1971 Member+

    Nov 12, 2010
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Understood. But IMHO it's FAR more important that CUSA begin building an identity, a REAL identity. If I magically owned the team today I would submit a plan to MLS for approval that went thusly:

    1. MOVE. No way I would give up my rights to LA, so Weingart, etc. would come into play.

    2. REBRAND. You all know what I'm talking about...

    3. SIGN GIOVANI DOS SANTOS. He did poke his nose around the Galaxy. It would cost a bundle, but it would send an immediate message that this team is serious.

    4. MEDIA BLITZ. I've notice the Galaxy have put up a ton of new billboards around town. Nothing from CUSA. Once you get your big name make sure everyone and their brother knows it.

    5. BE LA! The kit, the food at the stadium, everything should be LA. Sign some Korean players. Sign some Iranian players. Sign some Armenian players. Be the side of LA that the Galaxy aren't. Don't pander to the Mexican American community, just look at who the Galaxy aren't taking into account and go after those people.

    6. BUILD YOUR OWN STADIUM. Yup. Last step. If you do everything else right you should have a waiting list for season tickets by this time.
     
  21. Allez RSL

    Allez RSL Member+

    Jun 20, 2007
    Home
    I think the word you guys are looking for is "Telstar" ball.
     
  22. Eric B

    Eric B Member

    Feb 21, 2000
    the LBC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Angel (and Duck) fandom is not contrarian, it's regional. Those are the teams of Orange County and the Inland Empire and don't have much penetration into Los Angeles County, although the Dodgers and Kings (like the galaxy do). I still think going OC for a second team in SoCal would be more successful than trying to split the market along racial lines or minor geographic differences that only matter to the area's growing provincial hipster minority...
     
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  23. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    There's been some rumors if Guggenheim was interested in the NFL, they'd build a stadium in the parking lot, which is an enormous lot.

    If a club is playing in a SSS next to Dodger Stadium, that means Guggenheim would be involved and money is of no object to them, they could easily spend more than AEG. They also just bought the L.A. WNBA team, so that shows they have interest in the L.A. sports market outside of just the Dodgers.
     
  24. BrodieQPR

    BrodieQPR Member

    Jun 27, 2010
    Michigan
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    because the word they use (sakka) is derived from "soccer" as opposed to "football"
     

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