MLS Playoffs 2013: Conference Semifinals, Round 1 [Multiple R]

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  1. THOMA GOL

    THOMA GOL BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 16, 1999
    Frontier
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's Nagbe's citizenry status?
     
  2. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You can't take that chance. An early red card means all bets are off. You have to step on your opponents necks when you have them down.
     
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  3. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

    Jun 7, 2000
    Baltimore
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Gibraltar
    Gotta say for those that moan about these first legs being boring I'd say both games got a little intense in the 2nd halves.
     
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  4. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    it DID backfire on them to do what they did. They stopped creating chances and gave up a goal. And but for poor finishing by Dempsey, they would have given up at least another one ... maybe 2. It was a bad move that didn't pay off this time, and usually doesn't.
     
  5. ShaggyReAL

    ShaggyReAL Awesome is my middle name

    Dec 9, 2009
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sweet. Preseason is over and the real games begin tomorrow.
     
  6. Golazo

    Golazo Member+

    Apr 15, 1999
    Decatur, GA USA
    Married to a Gringa as lots of soccer geeks wait impatiently.
     
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  7. MLSNHTOWN

    MLSNHTOWN Member+

    Oct 27, 1999
    Houston, TX
    Playoff coaching. It's a different animal.

    Kinnear gets up 1-0 v. SKC last year, does he pull forwards and bring on defenders? Nope. Keeps the starting XI in (Hainault replaced Taylor in defense earlier I think) for the most part and then subs in two forwards for two forwards. Result - Dynamo win 2-0 in first leg. The second goal was scored before the forward subs, but even getting up 2-0 - he did not let off the throttle.
     
  8. evangel

    evangel Member+

    Apr 12, 2007
    NBC makes mentions of Portland's last home loss: 0-1 to the Montreal Impact in March.

    Seems like an eternity ago.
     
  9. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    I saw some Olympic Qualifying Porter in this one.
     
  10. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They were creating very few chances as it was. The only "negative" sub was Zemanski for Nagbe. Valeri was coming off no matter what 'cause he's coming off his injury.
     
  11. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

    Jun 7, 2000
    Baltimore
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Gibraltar
    This is a common miscalculation to think that if we would of just kept doing we would continue having the same result and go on to win 4-0.

    That doesn't take into calculation the level of desperation that goes into your opponent at 0-2. With that scoreline you know they will throw numbers into the box. Now you can leave your defense thin and gamble that you'll make them pay on the counter, but that's a pretty big gamble to take on the road in a hostile stadium like that. Keeping things wide open could of just as easily ended at 2-2
     
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  12. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree. I actually thought he did a pretty good job.
     
  13. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #988 onefineesq, Nov 3, 2013
    Last edited: Nov 3, 2013
    You think so sitruc? I honestly don't. To me, he went for it in OQ. The problem was that both his keepers imploded on him in the final game, giving up 2 poor goals. Nothing a coach can do about that. i still think he personally did a good job there.
     
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  14. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Desperation causes mistakes as it opens up holes that can be counterattacked effectively and easily. If it was so easy to just score goals by being desperate, then every team would just throw massive numbers forward and do it. They don't, because it's foolish to do so. Sitting back and allowing a team to attack you desperately without the threat of a counter is what causes problems .... and Porter played right into Seattles hands in that regard.
     
  15. Mateofelipe

    Mateofelipe Member+

    Mar 10, 2001
    Spokane, WA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Life and hope. I am a Sigi fan, but he should have sacrificed Neagle to Clint, not Rosales. Portland is good at all positicns, and they have the speed to expose us. I am worried about next year because of this loss. Joe is going to go with Clint, who thinks he is the bees knees at the top of a diamond, despite zero evidence in support. Sigi should have given Clint the Cobi treatment; play underneath the striker when you still have the pace, otherwise use your "veteran guile" on the wing. Portland are a very good team with a very good coach.
     
  16. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
  17. RHMCW

    RHMCW Member

    Nov 14, 2004
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle
    $200k a game doesn't buy what it used to.
     
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  18. pdxsoccerfan

    pdxsoccerfan Member

    Aug 31, 2010
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    I don't think taking Nagbe off was a good idea.

    One thing that I have noticed after watching Nagbe play a lot is that he is much better when he gets to play centrally as a CAM than he is when he has to play on the right. Unfortunately, Valeri is also at his best in the center, so Caleb Porter usually plays Nagbe out of position to accommodate Valeri. It's only when Valeri isn't on the field and Nagbe gets to play in the center that he shows what an amazing player he really is. He proved that again in this game by scoring a goal shortly after moving to the middle.

    So the sensible thing to do would be to try and get Nagbe as many minutes as possible at CAM. Playing him out wide most of the game and then subbing him off not long after he was able to move to his best position is a waste his abilities.
     
  19. Ajas

    Ajas Member

    Sep 23, 2009
    3eattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Alonso's goal changed everything.

    Maybe it doesn't come across on the TV broadcast, but the stadium was insane... So much hope leading up to every failed attack -- hitting 3 crossbars, Dempsey's miss inches wide, Dempsey's open header to Ricketts at the death, Evans wide-open volley to Ricketts, EJ's wide open header wide... All that hope turned into an increasing rabid (and increasingly drunk) frustration.

    Then Alonso scored. He actually nutmegged Ricketts on a lefty volley from the spot. There was this euphoria. Like-- "Oh, just ONE goal? No problem." And who knows-- among the players who didn't start but are "day-to-day" are Obafemi Martins, Deandre Yedlin, Mauro Rosales, and Steve Zankuani,

    The sad news is, at least from what I witnessed, I don't think Zach Scott or Leo Gonzalez (both outside backs) will be available. They are backed up by Yedlin and Burch, so not a nosedive, but a problem.

    Anyway, thank god for Alonso. Thursday night will be... very interesting.
     
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  20. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's Sunday Morning, has Sigi been fired yet?
     
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  21. BHTC Mike

    BHTC Mike Member+

    Apr 12, 2006
    Burlington, ON
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Clear evidence of MLS bias this morning:

    Western semi.png
    ;)
     
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  22. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    Like a gangbang, this was just a case of too many Johnsons to keep track of.
     
  23. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    Donno if anyone noticed this but the throw-in that led to the Alonso goal was a foul throw-in.

    Whoever threw the ball in clearly had their foot planted in the field of play.

    Just as bad as a missed offside call IMO.
     
  24. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The best angle I saw available made it look like his foot was on the touchline. Even if the front part of his foot is in the field of play, having that foot on the line makes it a legal throw-in.
     
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  25. ktabz

    ktabz Member

    Dec 2, 2007
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    correct.
     

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