Yank Abroad?

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by SHR2001, Jul 25, 2004.

  1. SHR2001

    SHR2001 New Member

    Sep 29, 2001
    New Jersey
    Would you guys consider him a Yank Abroad?

    Apparently Manchester United will have on its first team a young forward by the name of Daniel Nardiello. He has played for the English youth national teams and his father is English but his mother is Puerto Rican. He will be on the first team, although probably on the bench, this year and will participate on the tour through the states with number 36 or 38, cant remember right now. Here's a link to his bio on the manchester united official web page http://www.manutd.com/bio/bio.sps?iBiographyID=1640 and here's a link to an article in Puerto Rico's most popular newspaper which states the PR federation will call him up for their senior side as they are restructuring there whole system after a decade of corruption and failures. http://www.endi.com/noticiat.asp?newsid={F4D503E1-A98B-4015-B566-837BDFFD633E}&cat=mosaico

    Someone might want to translate that into english or use your high school spanish skills because I, well to be honest, don't feel like translating the whole article. So what do you guys think? Is he a yank abroad? Would he be worth taking a look at? And if he's quality should we leave him alone and let him play for PR or should he get a look by the US? Discuss amongst yourselves...lol. Laterz.
     
  2. arkadygelman

    arkadygelman New Member

    May 22, 2003
    D.C. give or take
    nothing really exciting...

    From "Varios Internationals to Convene for the team"
    http://www.endi.com/noticiat.asp?newsid={F4D503E1-A98B-4015-B566-837BDFFD633E}&cat=mosaico

    ".... and Daniel Nardiello, an attacker with Manchester United, figure on the list of players that will be convened for the National Team of Puerto Rico for future international competitions."

    ""We have several Puerto Rican footballers active in other countries and we are in the proceso of contacting them and bring them in for the team," said the president of the Puerto Rican Football Federation, Joe Serralta."

    "...and Nardiello, of a British father, is of Manchester and was part of the U19 team of England, although now he is 21"

    "At this age he can decide definitively the nationality sportwise that he wants to asume at an adult level, according to the rule of FIFA"

    blah blah blah...the coach continues to say that they cannot be a nation that does not naturalize players with some Puerto Rican ties anymore because the whole world does it, and it is legal.

    as stated before though, this brings a fairly interesting question, probably not many Puerto Rican players will ever get this chance solely because of the small number of Puerto Ricans (the odds are against them ever having a great team) but will we continue to naturalize Puerto Rican players (Armas) now that they are established?
     
  3. davide

    davide Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    Armas was never naturalized, since he was born and raised in New York.
     
  4. jri

    jri Red Card

    Sep 28, 2000
    boca
    Can he play for the US? :D
     
  5. Tigerpunk

    Tigerpunk Member+

    Jun 17, 2004
    Chris Armas? Depends on the meaning of "can"..... :p
     
  6. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Aren't Puerto Ricans U.S. citizens? He wouldn't need to be naturalized...
     
  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it's a Wales-England-Scotland situation, where there's a different FA, so a different national team.
     
  8. sokkerluver

    sokkerluver Red Card

    Jul 22, 2004
    Chicago,Illinois,USA
    [result]What about young Johnathan Spector??? He plays for Man Utd and also played a full 90 minutes and kept the Bayern Munich frontline from scoring at Soldier Field at the Champions World Series.[/result]
     
  9. sokkerluver

    sokkerluver Red Card

    Jul 22, 2004
    Chicago,Illinois,USA
    Frankie Simek is another American playing in the premierleague for Arsenal. He is young but Arsene realizes he does have potential. :)
     
  10. SHR2001

    SHR2001 New Member

    Sep 29, 2001
    New Jersey
    To answer the question.....Puerto Ricans are American citizens by birth given the fact that Puerto Rico is a territory of the United States......However they do have their own Soccer Federation, National team, Leagues, etc.....Whom they decide to play for, U.S. or P.R. is totally up to them.....Anyway, thanks for translating parts of the article i wasn't in the mood to translate. I'm not saying the guy is amazing or anything like that but since i read so many people posting that spector and cooper should be in the national team pool for the future just because their at Man U than why not this guy.....Does he merit it, i have no idea. Never seen him play, same goes for spector and cooper. They've played for U.S. youth national teams and Nardiello has played for English youth national teams and there all at Man U.....So the credentials are there.....But my curiosity was that if the guy is good enough should the U.S. give him a look or let P.R. take him? To add, I highly doubt we'll see an influx of P.R. players on the U.S. team......The level of play for P.R. players just isn't there yet unfortunately.......And if it ever does reach a high level i have the feeling they'd probably represent the island......As for Armas he was born and raised in NY and yes he is of PR heritage, but lets not forget that before he got his first Cap for the Nats he had to get clearance from fifa and concacaf because he had played in some games for the PR National Team.

    P.S. Sorry for makin this a long post but one final comment. I heard this afternoon that Daniel Nardiello was sent on loan for a season to Barnsley in England....Don't know if i spelled that correctly.....Can anyone give some info on that team, what division? Quality, etc.
     
  11. northern ireland fan

    Aug 10, 2001
    belfast
    Nardiellos father is actually a Welsh international of Italian extraction (although Daniel was born in England). He has been called into England youth/U21 squads but is not cap-tied to them. The Welsh have been trying to recruit him for a while but he has been keeping his options open.

    If he's stalling on the Wales option because he wants to play for England, I can't see Puerto Rico having much chance of getting him. Also as his father is an ex Welsh international it seems his international future lies with Wales (or at a real long shot England - he is 21 and hardly played a game for Man Utd)
     
  12. Dave Brull

    Dave Brull Member

    Mar 9, 2001
    Mayfield Hts, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Question: If Puerto Rico has its own leagues as mentioned in the post two above this one, why does Puerto Rico have an entrant in the A-League? Do you mean recreational leagues or is there actually a profesional Puerto Rican league?
     
  13. Matrim55

    Matrim55 Member+

    Aug 14, 2000
    Berkeley
    Club:
    Connecticut
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They don't have a FIFA sanctioned top-flight league - same reason Canadian teams can play in the A-League and Welsh teams can play in the nationwide and Premiership, but Scottish teams can't.
     
  14. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    So, assuming as a citizen he is eligible play for the US, does anyone know if anyone at US Soccer headquarters has taken a break from downloading Maria Sharapova pics long enough to try to recruit him.
     
  15. SHR2001

    SHR2001 New Member

    Sep 29, 2001
    New Jersey
    There has been a league in PR and with the new federation i understand there organizing a better "first division" league.....But to call it "professional" is a far stretch......The level is probably equal to your local amateur or semi-pro leagues.....Given the fact that its recognized by the Fed. as "1st division league" i would assume its also recognized by Fifa.....Technically the winner of the league could participate in the Concacaf Champions Cup....The thing is the Federation was in shambles, divided, and corrupted for 10 years.....At one point there were two leagues that called themselves the "top flight league" of the island......Unfortunately, the better organized of the two was not recognized by the Fed. because it was run by people who disagreed with the leaders of the Federation....All players that joined a team in that league were banned by the Federation and couldn't represent their country with the national team, etc......Anyway, the A-League team has approval by the local Fed., U.S. Soccer, concacaf, etc. to play in the A-League.....From my understanding its developed a lot of interest and support......From what i read, one of the main reasons to create the A-League team was to develop interest for the sport in the island, give local players a chance to play at a higher level, and develop a new generation of local players.....Sounds like a good idea.......Anyway, back to the original subject......If Wales has been trying to recruit Nardiello than i would believe he has some talent.....Northern Ireland Fan, i didn't know about his welsh connection....Thanks for that info.....Given that, i also see it highly unlikely he would play for P.R. especially since at this point there is no way he could ever play in a World Cup or any high level international competition with them.....Yet if the U.S. followed up on this guy and if worth a shot for the team i'm sure he would be tempted to consider the U.S. as an option.
     

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