Post-match: USA vs. Antigua and Barbuda 10/12

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by schrutebuck, Oct 12, 2012.

  1. cpwilson80

    cpwilson80 Member+

    Mar 20, 2001
    Boston
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought Gordon's sub marked a turning point in the game. Not only did he demonstrate his trademark desire to win the ball, but he played simply and effectively with his back to goal. On a field that small with those conditions, we needed that ball movement.

    Loved Bradley's play tonight. Controlled the ball well, hit two posts, and rightfully got fired up around the 84th minute off that tackle.
     
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  2. Cool Hand Luke

    Cool Hand Luke Member+

    Aug 13, 2008
    Austin Texas
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pretty much the only European based player who showed up. MLS to the rescue!
     
  3. mannycoon

    mannycoon Member

    May 13, 2009
    I think Kljestan's sub made a big difference as well, I think our midfield starting linking up much better once he was out there, although it came very late.

    The last goal really changed the final narrative of this game. It went from being a pretty much shameful performance, to very ugly but with the result we needed. Hopefully our coaching staff can trying to figure out what few things worked and build on that while helping fix all the things that went really badly.
     
  4. braun

    braun Red Card

    Feb 22, 2001
    metro Boston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Look hard at the second goal that EJ scored.
    Unmarked, absolutely no defense for A&B.
    The only way they scored on us is by pulling down Goodson from behind, a no-call. That is major.
    Both european-based with the exception of MB, and MLS stunk up the house.
     
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  5. pichichi2010

    pichichi2010 Member+

    Oct 24, 2010
    In your nets
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    JK finally seeing the light regarding MLS based players. A couple of players who I thought might have contributed more than what was on offer last night are George John, and Dax McCarty.

    Something else that comes to mind, not being well versed on strategy and all, is that it seemed to me that with a team like A&B that were packing everybody behind the ball and it was difficult to keep the ball on the ground without it bouncing like a pinball machine, would it not have been helpful to take a few shots from middle/long range to maybe make some of those defenders step up to defend, therefore creating more space to operate?

    Maybe I'm wrong, but it just seemed like something logical to force them to push forward more and create more space by surprising them with a longer range shot every once in a while.
     
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  6. Dignan

    Dignan Member+

    Nov 29, 1999
    Granada
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What!??!

    What planet are you living on? Golden bathtubs?!! Not important?!?!

    Next you are going to tell me that having four refrigerators full of vitamin water is silly.
     
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  7. matt021d

    matt021d Member

    Jul 28, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  8. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Goodson looked like he slipped more than anything. Still as a central defender you have to be much stronger than that, and Goodson keeps getting pushed around. That said, this goal was like most a chain reaction of disasters, Bocanegra gives the ball away and Cameron gets burned, Goodson slips, and goal.
     
  9. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well frankly I'd suggest hosting it Barrow or Fairbanks.

    I mean anchorage has a terrible old AstroTurf field than can fit a 1000 or so, but if you really want to go all out Barrow will have no daylight, a frozen dirt field and polar bear patrols.

    Alternatively Ketchikan can offer a gravel field with almost guaranteed rain and fog.
     
  10. GalacticoX4

    GalacticoX4 Member+

    Jun 2, 2004
    Sir! Now you have gone TOO far! Next you will say that there is no purpose to the spinning rims on my chrome plated Dodge Dart. They go round and round buddy. "ROUND...AND...ROUND!"

    It's like i don't even know you any more.
     
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  11. Geneva

    Geneva LA for Life

    Feb 5, 2003
    Southern Cal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's improved a lot. I just wish he would get the ball off his feet faster sometimes.
     
  12. MightyMouse

    MightyMouse BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 19, 2003
    Island paradise east of the mainland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lol... so sad people like that crap.
     
  13. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    where is this bout time Jurgen thought the MLS blah blah blah crap coming from?

    Jurgen has called many MLS players up for matches and camps.

    MLS players called up in JKs tenure but not all played due to injuries or other factors of course....
    Kyle Beckerman
    Nick Rimando
    Geoff Cameron
    Chris Wondolowski
    Sean Johnson
    Bill Hamid
    Steven Beitashour
    Matt Besler
    AJ Delagarza
    Zach Loyd
    Jeff Parke
    Heath Pearce
    Omar Gonzalez
    George John
    Brek Shea
    Ricardo Clark
    Brad Evans
    Benny Feilhaber
    Jeff Larentowicz
    Landon Donovan
    Edson Buddle
    Teal Bunbury
    CJ Sapong
    Juan Agedelo

    OH MY GOD HE JUST IGNORES THE MLS. (this was only from 2012 call ups too)
     
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  14. Fanatical Monk

    Fanatical Monk Member+

    Jun 14, 2011
    Fantasyland
    The ONLY people who say this about gold bathtubs, are those without gold bathtubs. I take it you don't have one. I feel sorry for you.
     
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  15. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope he gets more of a chance. When he came on he pressed got the ball in dangerous positions and added more bite then anybody else on the field
     
  16. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    you have a point. Barrow in January would be great.
     
  17. FuzzyForeigner

    Oct 29, 2003
    WA
    Club:
    Seattle
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    wow. ok. i will definitely agree now on the excuse of the bad field.

    ironically there is this discussion about "what's our style of soccer? etc"

    well, the us style is to play counter against superuior enemies and to play a balanced build up play against same level or inferior opponents. Want more? support a different national team. Unfortunately a balanced build up play type of game requires a workable pitch.

    and reference to all: the pitches in Brazil will all be absolutely top tier quality.
     
  18. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Other than the disappointment of giving up the goal, I thought the team played fine. MB had a chance go off the post and Gonzales had too good chances which were killed with poor chances. Add a missed header by EJ and you have a decent amount of opportunites on goal.

    Unfortunately, we needed a few players to play better than they did. Dempsey gave the ball away too easy and came back too often for the ball. Hercules game didn't play well with the field conditions.

    Congrats to EJ and Gordan. Both played well and made a big difference in the win. Add MB as the other additional outstanding player for the team...
     
  19. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why on earth did the USA even agree to that venue? Why did we not launch a protest? That field is completely unacceptable for a World Cup qualifier.

    Does Gulati have no balls at all?
     
  20. MightyMouse

    MightyMouse BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 19, 2003
    Island paradise east of the mainland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yeeaaaahh.... ok.
     
  21. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    It's not a question of balls, it's a question of smarts, and Sunil Gulati is an experienced negotiator. Admit that you too would have dropped all threats of a protest if A&B had offered to comp you a continental breakfast.
     
  22. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If he negotiated that poor of a field, I'm not sure where the experience comes from.
     
  23. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    I'd have at least held out for a vacation house next to Keith Richards's.
     
  24. Lascho

    Lascho Member+

    Sep 1, 2008
    Hannover, Germany
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    They don't ask you to agree to the field. The ref decides if it's playable. You play or you don't; but you lose in case you don't play.
     
  25. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nearly every resort on Antigua is all inclusive so Gulati got owned.
     

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