The Official Robin van Persie Thread

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  1. deaner1971

    deaner1971 Member+

    Aug 10, 2005
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did you read that story? I believe the number was 51 million pounds of which the attributed 32 to Zlatan. That means Silva was only 19...

    That makes no sense and Silvio turned down 46 million euros which is about 36 million pounds last month, no? On top of that, after Milan turned down 36 million, Silva extended his contract to like 2017. How did that drop his value by more than 17 million?

    Either Milan really wants to get rid of Zlatan or something is screwy here.
     
  2. deaner1971

    deaner1971 Member+

    Aug 10, 2005
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If he won't sign for them, you are only going to get what they think a one-year term is worth. With his injury record, the amount you are willing to bet on him staying healthy and reproducing his single best year is probably more than 5 million below what City would pay to lock hi up for three years.
     
  3. deaner1971

    deaner1971 Member+

    Aug 10, 2005
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And I didn't mean to make my "did you read that story" to infer that you didn't. I was just curious if you saw the story that went into the breakdown of the fees.
     
  4. Miles Brasher

    Miles Brasher Member

    Sep 6, 2004
    Coventry,England
    Well, I have a feeling that if he doesn't get his big money deal this summer, he wont get anything like it at all next summer, hence why both sides have come out publically recently, so it might force him into putting in a transfer request
     
  5. deaner1971

    deaner1971 Member+

    Aug 10, 2005
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think either a formal transfer request or a retraction will be forthcoming in the next week. He doesn't want to go on a meaningless Asian tour if he is set on leaving and Arsene has no patience for the RvP cloud hanging over the team.
     
  6. mwojt21

    mwojt21 Member

    May 22, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Milan has a boatload of debt they're trying to pay off. That's why their signing so far this offseason have been limited to cheap or free transfers (Traore, Montolivo, Constant, etc).

    I thought I heard that Silva didn't have any interest in moving. That's why he signed that extension. I'd be surprised to see him go, but I think Zlatan's time might be up in Milan. Dunno who is going to score goals for them now, though....
     
  7. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    If he is truly pushing for this, and unwilling to allow the club to find options outside the PL, then I'm all for stringing him up, loading a pitching machine with billiard balls and firing away. This would be prima donna behavior of the worst part by him, so the punishment would be deserved, IMHO.

    Seriously, if this is the case we best make sure City agrees to terms with him first, at some ungodly rate of 300k per week for 5 years, so that it seriously hampers their FFP viability. Then hit them up for 15M+ in transfer fees.

    And then when FFP isn't upheld we can all begin noting the downfall of credible football.
     
  8. darcgun

    darcgun Member+

    Jan 11, 2008
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    so not the next Nasri then? lol..

    I applaud him for his honesty, if anything.
     
  9. DCUroma

    DCUroma Member+

    Jul 20, 2009
    Suck it Sensi
    Club:
    AS Roma
    They really want to get rid of him. I believe he is still the highest paid player in football.
     
  10. generals soccer

    Feb 7, 2006
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Ibrahimovic is believed to be willing to move for an increase on his €12 million annual salary, while Thiago Silva struck terms with PSG over a €7.5 million-a-year contract in mid-June."
     
  11. deaner1971

    deaner1971 Member+

    Aug 10, 2005
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "No, it isn't the dress that makes you look fat, it's the fat that makes you look fat." "I wasn't staring at that woman, I was looking down her shirt," "I need to call in sick today because I am sick of working for you"

    Honesty doesn't always make you a saint and little white lies to preserve an eight year relationship with fans and a club who have both stood by you doesn't make you a terrible person. He was able to lie about where Ivan was and why he wants a move so, he could have told a few more to preserve any part of this relationship.

    I get your point but I just think that taking the "it's not you, it's me" high ground would have gotten him to the same place without all of the anger.
     
  12. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Zlatan wants out apparently.

    Apparently Milan are about to save 108 million euros from those two going.


    I have no sympathy for Milan tho. They did this to everyone for 20 years.
     
  13. generals soccer

    Feb 7, 2006
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Posted this in other teams thread as well.

    "Yes, I've sold Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Thiago Silva to PSG," he told Sky Sport 24. "We will save €150 million over two years."
     
  14. Miles Brasher

    Miles Brasher Member

    Sep 6, 2004
    Coventry,England
    This is what I find funny, he's only being 'honest' because he's trying to make his position untenable so he gets his move without having to put in a transfer request. In reality, honesty is the furthest thing from his and his agents minds

    This idea that he's doing it as the honourable option is simply laughable.
     
  15. deaner1971

    deaner1971 Member+

    Aug 10, 2005
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Curious to see if he is doing this for the reason players do it so often - money.

    Make a stink and the club sells you? Loyalty bonus due in full to the player who "got" sold.

    File a formal transfer request and the club sells you? Loyalty bonus is null and void.

    If so, that change anyone's view on his laudable honesty?
     
  16. TheImposter

    TheImposter Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    Centerville, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is there anyone left anywhere in this world that believes there is ever any valid reason to do something apart from financial benefit?
     
  17. Publius

    Publius Member+

    May 22, 2001
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    DC United signed Branko Boskovic a few seasons ago as its designated player. He showed up fat and out of shape and the moment he started to show some signs of life he got his ACL blown out from a dirty tackle.

    His contract just came up for renewal and he signed for a lesser salary. I'm sure there's a cynical take on his situation (player in his early 30's coming off a major injury, not likely to attract serious money offers from Europe) but he was playing well right before he signed the new contract and I imagine it wouldn't be hard to beat a $500,000 salary in Europe even for a player in his situation. All reports indicate he signed the new contract because he felt he had seriously underperformed and felt he had something to prove.

    Vermaelen's situation extending his contract at Arsenal was fairly similar.

    Some players with a significant injury history do feel they owe something to their teams and are willing to prove their worth when they might be able to make more money elsewhere.
     
  18. stoppre16

    stoppre16 Member

    Apr 19, 2007
    Fernando Redondo did something similar after he moved from Real Madrid to AC Milan and proceeded to blow out his knee in his first training session and didn't play a game for almost 3 years. He supposedly stopped taking his salary and tried to give back the car and house that the club had given him. Unfortunately that kind of thing is incredibly rare.
     
    red & wite army repped this.
  19. goonermaui

    goonermaui Arsenal No Ka 'Oi

    May 12, 2006
    Lahaina Maui
    I could give you a neg rep, if I wanted too,
    .....I know people, that can get inside your computer.:ninja:

    However, 500 internet points, or a round on me, at my local, says you're wrong.;)
     
  20. gogunners14

    gogunners14 Member+

    Dec 6, 2003
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I'm not sure which thread to post this on, so I'll just do it here. Does anyone have news on the status of Arteta and Wilshere's injury recovery? I'm assuming they are good to go after rehabbing all summer? I just hadn't heard anything further on it since the season ended...
     
  21. LeetOwnage522

    LeetOwnage522 Member

    Mar 26, 2008
    Doodlestan
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, Arteta has been training with the full squad so I think it's safe to say he is back healthy. Not sure about Wilshere, but Arseblogger seems to think he will miss the start of the season.
     
  22. FabregasTED

    FabregasTED Member

    Jan 2, 2007
    New Haven, CT
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I gotta say, as transfer sagas go this one is particularly muted. Normally you can't shake it from the headlines, but aside from the Grimandi quotes there's really been nothing for a week and a half from any party that is or could be involved.
     
  23. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    Me...and I don't believe RvP is leaving for more money either.
     
  24. gogunners14

    gogunners14 Member+

    Dec 6, 2003
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I don't think money is the only reason. But you honestly think he looks at City and just thinks "prestige! trophies!" and that 200k+ a week doesn't factor at all? But then again, you'd probably have to pay me that much to share a lockerroom with the likes of Balotelli, Nasri and Tevez.

    Anyways, we're beating a dead horse at this point.
     
  25. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    I think if his salary were equal, he still would leave. Just my opinion though.
     

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