Rumor: Marquez to Chivas (USA)?

Discussion in 'MLS: Rumors' started by Fiosfan, Apr 25, 2012.

  1. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Marquez to Chivas (USA)?
    Once a Metro
    Let's hope it's the other Chivas. It seems from his stupid actions that he's not happy in MLS. Why would Chivas USA wants to bother with him away?.
     
  2. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A perfect marriage.
     
  3. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just as long as its after Saturday's game. One less chance for that idiot to injure a Rapid.
     
  4. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    Chivas USA's GM shot this down the same day it was reported. That usually means it is a done deal. :p
     
  5. Omar

    Omar Hurrrrr....

    Nov 23, 2007
    Monterrey MEX
    Club:
    Club Tigres de la UANL
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    It would probably have to be a similar deal as with JPA... in which NY takes the most of the salary hit...
     
  6. Autogolazo

    Autogolazo BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 19, 2000
    Bombay Beach, CA
    I thought they told Robin Fraser at the start of the season, "Just Win"?

    Foisting a cancer like Rafa Marquez on that already shaky team would be terminal for the season.

    Plus--couldn't they find a young, talented Mexican attacker for $2.5M (half Rafa's salary) who would also help them win a little more?

    Domene did shoot it down--which means it better not happen. At this point in the Marquez MLS debacle, it's unspinnable.
     
  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The thing is, for this season, NYRB has been much, much better with him than without him. The sample size is too small to go crazy over...but man, they were awful against DC.

    Point being, I don't think acquiring him conflicts with "just win."
     
  8. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, but wait. NYRB are 3-0-1 with him in the lineup this year....:rolleyes:


    Edit: I see Superdave got to the point but from the opposite angle. I just think the guy's a cancer and ultimately he'll drag whatever team he's on down in the gutter with him.
     
  9. Kayak

    Kayak Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Columbus
    I don't buy it, not even they are that stupid. If it comes to pass though their new slogan should be Chivas USA where you can dump your unwanted DPs.
     
  10. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    I don't know. I'd love it if for the 2nd year in a row NYRB gave up a high profile player & he did well for his new team. :)
     
  11. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd argue that the Marquez stat is misleading. The first 2 of those wins with Marquez in the lineup coincided with the return to the lineup of Wilman Conde, who I'd argue was the big difference with the team. Heck, Conde is the guy who Thierry Henry singled out as the guy who had made the big difference in the way the team played ... not Marquez. And finally, if the referee didn't have blinders on, Rafa indeed would have been called for a late penalty and would have been a significant reason for a LOSS to SJ instead of a tie.

    Marquez is a cancer in NY. Having said that, maybe he wouldn't be as bad if he got a change of scenery. The well is simply poisoned in NY for him, and everyone knows that.
     
  12. Autogolazo

    Autogolazo BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 19, 2000
    Bombay Beach, CA
    Acquiring him means acquiring his disciplinary record, as well. And the cards and missed games.

    It's not like he's a 20-goal scorer or something.

    $2.5M is way too much to pay for that position, that attitude and those inevitable missed games and man-down situations--unless you think he becomes a model citizen all of a sudden.
     
  13. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    ESPNdesportes is NEVER correct.
     
  14. El Naranja

    El Naranja Member+

    Sep 5, 2006
    Alief
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At least we'll know how Knave will be disappointed this week :D
     
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  15. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    It won't happen.

    It can't. It just can't.
     
  16. Omar

    Omar Hurrrrr....

    Nov 23, 2007
    Monterrey MEX
    Club:
    Club Tigres de la UANL
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    It would be like Christmas in July
     
  17. clashcityrocker

    Mar 12, 1999
    In the shadow of RFK
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I was hoping that Red Bull would go on a tear after he got suspended for piledriving Shea Salinas just to show how worthless he is, but then they went and stunk up the joint in RFK without him. Oh well. I can't feel too bad when Red Bull loses, regardless.
     
  18. iced1776

    iced1776 Member+

    Dec 4, 2009
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    As for the DC game, we're talking about a situation where NY had to use their 4th string CB, 2nd string LB, and 3rd string holding midfielder, none of which had played more than 45 minutes in an MLS game. So yes, we are better with Marquez in the lineup than our 20 year old third string DM making his debut in the league, but that doesn't mean that he's a good option for Chivas, or NY for that matter considering his salary.

    As for the three games we won, that had more to do with Henry and Cooper hitting an incredible hot streak, which Marquez contributed little to. McCarty had more impressive stats offensively and defensively during that stretch than Marquez did... Even during that stretch we were still leaking goals, something that Marquez is supposed to help prevent.

    Chivas, or any other club in the world, would be batshit crazy to take this guy even at half his current salary (which was the split originally reported). His legs are shot and his attitude sucks, he spends more time pointing where other players should pass the ball than opening up to receive it himself.
     
  19. EL MONO MARIO

    EL MONO MARIO Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Montevideo, Uruguay
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is NOT happening..

    Especially with the Transfer Window of world soccer opening up soon...

    Although Marquez is and will go down in history as the biggest DP bust ever... 4.6 million for the name and nationality... Nothing else.... AVERAGE at best in MLS....
     
  20. EL MONO MARIO

    EL MONO MARIO Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Montevideo, Uruguay
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Still waiting for Forlan to sign with the Sounders. :p
     
  21. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well at least Rafa is the best at producing high level market quality earwax, and also don't forget he has his own men's cologne--available now in 4 different formulations (RM original, RM Black, RM Splash, and RM Capitan)
     
  22. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lothar Mathews cruse continues.
     
  23. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Luis Landin says hi ... as do Denilson, Mista, Mustapha Jarju, Jeferson, and Milton Caraglio.
     
  24. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nery Castillo

    the list is large, Marquez is probably not even top 10.
     
  25. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dont forget "The Animal"--cant believe he actually played here for a while before going back to partying in Brazil.
     

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