Pitt hired a football coach in five days. Glad to see they are taking their time to get it right with their women's soccer coach. What is going on?
BigSouth, Potter has done very well at Washington State. That's not an easy place to recruit to, Pullman in eastern Washington. And where did he come from? Coaching club in Arizona. He didn't have "regional" ties at WSU and was able to still recruit good players and do well relatively speaking in the Pac10-12. He'll be a great fit at OU. Knows the game and is good person and coach. If he doesn't know the area then he has to meet with different club coaches in the area and familiarize himself with the talent and recruiting base. Will take a lot of effort in a small window of time intially but it can be done and he is more than capable of doing that. Unless there is another candidate that has his experience and already has a confirmed knowledge of the recruiting base, then I don't how see how this would not be a win-win for OU.
Who is Davis? Official release on Dowling hire: http://www.texassports.com/sports/w-soccer/spec-rel/122211aaa.html
Im certain there is a qualified candidate with his ability and local knowledge of recruiting base which is what my point was in first place. Sure he is a good coach, think there is someone with local and regional ties just as good if not better that can do it quicker nothing more nothing less. OU will get it right as i said lets just wait see and sure whoever they get will do very well.
Here is a little truth about soccer salaries. This is on the men's side but it tells you a lot. From Charlotte Observer: Gunn had a three year contract at Charlotte paying $65,000 and that was supplemented with soccer camp income. He will make a lot more at Stanford, but is anyone surprised that his Charlotte contract was that low? Maybe there is more money on the women's side? Gunn had received a three-year contract extension in 2010 and was making about $65,000 per year (although that was supplemented by soccer camp income). There was no buyout clause in his contract. Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/12/22/2867265/success-costs-49ers-a-coach.html#storylink=cpy Gunn had received a three-year contract extension in 2010 and was making about $65,000 per year (although that was supplemented by soccer camp income). There was no buyout clause in his contract.
Ok . . . I've been all PC in a bunch of other posts, but I want to personally punch just about everyone in the soccer community in the face over this: Soccer Coaches are GROSSLY underpaid. Texas was paying CP less than football assistants with less than two years experience. EVERYTIME any coach gets a chance, we should be pointing out how UNDERPAID soccer coaches are. College soccer coaches are the lowest paid coaches at most schools (check it out - track/vball/whatever generally make more). And the truth is that soccer coaches have been their own worst enemies (with a big assist from the soccer community who spend time stupidly denigrating college soccer & coaches for a variety of mostly self-serving reasons). CP got THE MARKET RATE for his services. We should be applauding Texas for paying a fair wage for a coach rather than whinging about how CP made more than so and so. Seriously, bloggers (including the generally stellar AWK) ought to be ashamed for perpetuating slave wages for soccer coaches. Certainly it's a privilege and honor to make a living "in the game" and I'm sure all of us who do are thankful and appreciative. But we've got to call BS on this stuff - I mean, the University of Maryland is paying football assistants who can't tie their own shoes twice what ANY soccer coach is making - it's a disgrace and frankly disrespectful to their very successful soccer coaches (to pick an example at random).
It's Al Alvine from CUP - went from 4 wins to averaging 18 or so in the last 3 years. D2 Final-8 this year. Cal has great resources compared to almost all PSAC schools. Can he do it again in DI and the A-10? He'll have a very different challenge ahead of himself but certainly should know the local talent very well. If they open that Cal job up (don't go with asst.), it will be in good demand. Good new facility and they pay very well compared to most PSAC HCs. Surprised he would want to leave actually...
Anyone know why it is taking Georgia State so long to announce Leader as the coach? Is there some sort of hold up?
NOOOOOOOOOOOO! from what i've heard, Nicolic would've accepted if offered right away, but Milwaukee wanted to evaluate all their options before making that decision... i haven't really followed coaching changes in Women's Soccer over the years (as a Panther fan, it hasn't been a concern)...is there any precedent for an assistant announcing he was leaving with a head coach, only to return later that offseason after being offered the job?
What makes you think he will make more at Stanford? Last I heard Stanford seriouslu underpaid all their coaches even before taking into account the local cost of living. And yes, the men's team only draws about 2/3rds what the women do, so less money.
Ohio State asst accepted Pitt job. Apparently SIX people turned the position down prior to this so something must not be right at that school.
Pitt has a terrible soccer tradition and the future beatings in the ACC doesn't make it more palatable. If you can't guarantee a new coach the chance of resources and support from administration, I think anyone would have cold feet about taking such a risky job.
Exaggeration on six? Wake assistant and maybe one other declined. Who cares...how about a congrats for a coach getting first HC job? Seems like a lot of work but he's more on inside then us fans. Again, congrats to Coach Miller.
Grossly underpaid? I think that is a matter of perspective I think most of these coaches are under qualified not underpaid. Most of these coaches would even be considered an applicant in the real world of soccer around the world. To say they deserve this big salary to coach Women s college soccer is silly. You are comparing football coaches to soccer coaches are you kidding me? Football brings in revenue soccer costs the school money. If you want a big salary coaching soccer join the professional ranks but there in lies the problem already stated very few if any of the Womens college coaches are qualified to coach professionally. Which is why the argument of unqualified women coaches is amusing because the men are not qualified either. The only place they would be considered qualified is in womens college soccer.
CVAL pretty harsh!!!! I bet your a ton of fun to be around. I am guessing you may be frustrated coach who can't get that college job you think you deserve. Hope you find that job you seek. You may be the only qualified coach out there. I think there are many qualified coaches out there. Sorry you can't see that do to your bias and negative feelings towards the women's game.
Actually I think it's a pretty good summary of what a segment of soccer parents are thinking while they're writing checks and/or sitting on state/USYSA committees. Reminds me of what Eric Cantona said about the FFF board - "bunch of people who know nothing about the game." And of course in this case, also what constitutes comparable wages: 1. Football is either barely breaking even or losing millions of dollars at nearly every institution that plays it (something like 25-50 BCS schools can cook their books enough to claim they made ANY profit on football - and that's when they count "direct subsidy from university" as INCOME). 2. You compare wages by looking at education/experience - so if a person with a master's degree and X years is making $20k more teaching high school than coaching women's soccer (true story), than soccer is underpaying. 3. If you think UT's 5th - 9th or whatever assistant is adding value commensurate with their $300k+ salary - that's essentially a religious belief on your part and clearly not subject to some sort of logical analysis. 4. Thanks for capturing the zeitgeist of a "crabs in a barrel" era. Always inspiring.