Brek Shea: the rumor has legs

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  1. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He played the good ball after a nice stop in go on the wing that resulted in the Chavez's offside goal.

    He was not doing this consistently before. I guess players do improve in chunks.
     
  2. InvisionFootball

    InvisionFootball New Member

    Jan 22, 2011
    Europe
    Players move to the Scandinavian league because they have an organized football structure. It is a feeder league to many larger ones in Europe. The better players always move on to larger clubs in other domestic leagues within a season or two.

    Staying in the MLS is a dead end for any soccer player. The level of exposure is miniscule and there is a huge loop-hole to making it to the League. 16 teams for a country with so many players only further worsens the negative soccer politics practiced in the U.S.

    The MLS and American soccer structure is disorganized. Foreign players living in the U.S are at a huge dis-advantage due to this bias.

    The almost necessary requirement to go play in the NCAA prior to entering the draft hinders a player ability to grow and eliminates those that cannot afford the university tuition.

    The college season lasts a pathetic 2 months. Players waste 4 years of their most important soccer years playing 2 months a year.

    Scandinavian soccer offers talent equality and opportunity to any player of any origin. A player can simply pack up his bags and start at lower division club and work his way up to his true worth.

    The MLS offers an inter league for the best college players and the other lucky few who get selected through influential contacts. Many players who can't buy into the college system are weeded out.

    Regards,

    I.F
     
  3. Craig P

    Craig P BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 26, 1999
    Eastern MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How many Americans have moved up from a Scandinavian team to one of the major European leagues? How many have moved up from MLS to one of the major European leagues?

    Players don't move from MLS to Scandinavia to get exposure, they move from MLS to Scandinavia to get paid.
     
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  4. Deeneaus

    Deeneaus Member+

    Aug 29, 2007
    America/Deutschland
    Club:
    Arminia Bielefeld
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're like...5-7 years late with this.

    Salutations,

    -D
     
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  5. Skevin

    Skevin Member+

    Aug 9, 2009
    Colorado
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    What...I can't even.

    That post is just...:confused:
     
  6. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Thanks.
     
  7. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001

    "We" aren't "sending" him anywhere.
     
  8. SoCalYid

    SoCalYid Member+

    Jun 11, 2011
    BigSoccer :)
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We as in the interested parties in the development of American football/soccer, where he goes interest me. Obviously WE don't have much control over where he goes and I'm not paying his wages/transfer fee. I was responding more to the idea of a potential move to Bolton, West Brom play similar football and with a better manager IMO. I grew up in England and that's the vernacular I'm used to using when talking about transfers, "We sent Jenas to Villa on loan", etc.

    Bantz....
     
  9. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Charlie Davies and Heath Pearce come to mind. Feilhaber had interest before his club got relegated.

    Think a fairer comparison would be number players from each league exported to top leagues.
     
  10. SoCalYid

    SoCalYid Member+

    Jun 11, 2011
    BigSoccer :)
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A bit off topic but I remember back in the day English players (or players playing in England) used to go on loans to Scandinavian teams to develop or try and regain form. Crouch and Teddy come to mind. Scandinavian leagues played a similar style of football to that in England, I'm not sure if they still do.
     
  11. US2014

    US2014 Red Card

    Jun 25, 2011
    Chicago
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah I watched the game when the US played the Netherlands I believe Bolton screwed up with Holden's injury and could of handled it better anyway I prefer Shea to go to a better club but that is my person opinion.
     
  12. tom12

    tom12 Member

    Jun 29, 2007
    BR, LA
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's a pretty strong statement to make regarding Bolton's medical team. I'm guessing you don't have any sort of information to back up this claim?
     
  13. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001

    Gotcha.

    The thing is, though, there are a lot of people on this thread who want to make the choice for him. It's his choice, It's his young adulthood. it's his finances, it's his life. I shouldn't have any say, particularly any say to say, "You shouldn't go to ManU. You should go to Bolton!"

    Second, I don't get the lack of confidence that people have in Shea. There are a lot of people here who seem certain he can't play for a big club and want him loaned or otherwise. Some posters have said they usually tamp down on enthusiasm about American players. To me in this case, that's just reactionary.
     
  14. iamalfred

    iamalfred Member+

    Aug 15, 2010
    I can only speak for Sweden but I do often hear it from players coming here that the ability to move up to a big league is a major part of the appeal. The swedish league pay pretty similar wages to MLS from what I've gathered, so I think that's probably more of a Denmark thing to be able to really increase your salary. I had a quick look through the lists of transfer from Sweden to the top 10 european leagues this year: two players to Germany, three to Italy, three to Holland and two to Turkey.


    I'm a Djurgården supporter and it used to always be a running joke with us each silly season that Sheringham was on his way back to the club :D Norway still play a very british style, I don't think Denmark ever did and Sweden are currently moving away from it.
     
  15. Belgian guy

    Belgian guy Member+

    Club Brugge
    Belgium
    Aug 19, 2002
    Belgium
    Club:
    Club Brugge KV
    Giving my own perspective on this.

    For the past 5-6 seasons, every Belgian talent has been hyped to the highest of highs. I've heard absurd stories that link 18-year olds who have one half season of Jupiler League experience to clubs like Barça, Real, Man U.

    The reality is that after half a decade of hype, exactly five players have actually made it to top four teams in the top five leagues:

    Kompany at Man City
    Vermaelen at Arsenal
    Hazard at Lille
    Van Buyten at Bayern
    Lukaku at Chelsea

    And the last two are merely fringe players at those clubs at the moment.
     
  16. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax

    Well, yes, but Van Buyten was their marshal for years and Lukaku just arrived.
     
  17. Craig P

    Craig P BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 26, 1999
    Eastern MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Onyewu at AC Milan

    Granted, he flamed out there (partly due to injury)---is your standard "transferred to a top four in top five" or "stayed on the roster at a top four in top five"? Seems more like the former given your comment about fringe players.
     
  18. Belgian guy

    Belgian guy Member+

    Club Brugge
    Belgium
    Aug 19, 2002
    Belgium
    Club:
    Club Brugge KV
    The bigger point that I tried to make is that for every 100 transfer rumors, there is perhaps one deal that actually comes to fruition. ;)

    Steven Defour alone had been linked to Man U, Arsenal, Everton, Liverpool, Real Madrid, ... before eventually ending up at... Porto. :p
     
  19. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax

    I'm not sure that's such a big laugh as you suggest. Did those big teams buy a player at his position this summer? Is there something especially shameful about choosing Porto?

    Plus, Everton has no money and the last thing they need is a two-way central midfielder.

    Just saying it's not always as simple as a guy is only as good as the place he ended up.
     
  20. Arabella Brown

    Arabella Brown New Member

    Jan 21, 2011
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, Greg Seltzer has been doing the leg work to try to cut through the tabloid idiocy and see which clubs, if any, actually have some interest in Shea. http://www.noshortcorners.com/

    The take aways:
     
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  21. ATLGunner

    ATLGunner Member

    May 8, 2005
    Atlanta
    I don't know how in context those take aways are. It also doesn't mention the extra clubs he has not decoded.

    I suggest everyone give Seltzer a hit. He deserves it.
     
  22. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    I think at least half of those clubs would be hard pressed to afford what MLS is gonna ask for Shea. That being said, I would love to see Shea at Werder Bremen (sadly I doubt they have the resources to spend a large sum on a player unproven at the Bundesliga level)
     
  23. Brandon313

    Brandon313 Member

    Aug 14, 2006
    Raleigh NC
    I think Shea would do very well at Bremen. Bremen could use a young talent to give a spark to their midfield. Unfortunately, Bremen pride themselves on investing in younger, cheaper (usually no more than 4 to 5 mio) talents that they develop and sell for a ton (Micoud, Diego, Ozil). Given FCD's insistence that they will not sell him the price would likely be too high for Werder.
     
  24. SoCalYid

    SoCalYid Member+

    Jun 11, 2011
    BigSoccer :)
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't Hamburg have some serious financial issues quite recently?

    Regardless, of that list Hamburg, Bremen and Newcastle would be interesting.
     
  25. Belgian guy

    Belgian guy Member+

    Club Brugge
    Belgium
    Aug 19, 2002
    Belgium
    Club:
    Club Brugge KV
    I think you misinterpreted my post. I didn't find it funny because Porto is not a big enough club (it's a terrific club), I found it funny because Porto was one of the few teams he hadn't been linked with. :D
     

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