He played the good ball after a nice stop in go on the wing that resulted in the Chavez's offside goal. He was not doing this consistently before. I guess players do improve in chunks.
Players move to the Scandinavian league because they have an organized football structure. It is a feeder league to many larger ones in Europe. The better players always move on to larger clubs in other domestic leagues within a season or two. Staying in the MLS is a dead end for any soccer player. The level of exposure is miniscule and there is a huge loop-hole to making it to the League. 16 teams for a country with so many players only further worsens the negative soccer politics practiced in the U.S. The MLS and American soccer structure is disorganized. Foreign players living in the U.S are at a huge dis-advantage due to this bias. The almost necessary requirement to go play in the NCAA prior to entering the draft hinders a player ability to grow and eliminates those that cannot afford the university tuition. The college season lasts a pathetic 2 months. Players waste 4 years of their most important soccer years playing 2 months a year. Scandinavian soccer offers talent equality and opportunity to any player of any origin. A player can simply pack up his bags and start at lower division club and work his way up to his true worth. The MLS offers an inter league for the best college players and the other lucky few who get selected through influential contacts. Many players who can't buy into the college system are weeded out. Regards, I.F
How many Americans have moved up from a Scandinavian team to one of the major European leagues? How many have moved up from MLS to one of the major European leagues? Players don't move from MLS to Scandinavia to get exposure, they move from MLS to Scandinavia to get paid.
We as in the interested parties in the development of American football/soccer, where he goes interest me. Obviously WE don't have much control over where he goes and I'm not paying his wages/transfer fee. I was responding more to the idea of a potential move to Bolton, West Brom play similar football and with a better manager IMO. I grew up in England and that's the vernacular I'm used to using when talking about transfers, "We sent Jenas to Villa on loan", etc. Bantz....
Charlie Davies and Heath Pearce come to mind. Feilhaber had interest before his club got relegated. Think a fairer comparison would be number players from each league exported to top leagues.
A bit off topic but I remember back in the day English players (or players playing in England) used to go on loans to Scandinavian teams to develop or try and regain form. Crouch and Teddy come to mind. Scandinavian leagues played a similar style of football to that in England, I'm not sure if they still do.
Yeah I watched the game when the US played the Netherlands I believe Bolton screwed up with Holden's injury and could of handled it better anyway I prefer Shea to go to a better club but that is my person opinion.
That's a pretty strong statement to make regarding Bolton's medical team. I'm guessing you don't have any sort of information to back up this claim?
Gotcha. The thing is, though, there are a lot of people on this thread who want to make the choice for him. It's his choice, It's his young adulthood. it's his finances, it's his life. I shouldn't have any say, particularly any say to say, "You shouldn't go to ManU. You should go to Bolton!" Second, I don't get the lack of confidence that people have in Shea. There are a lot of people here who seem certain he can't play for a big club and want him loaned or otherwise. Some posters have said they usually tamp down on enthusiasm about American players. To me in this case, that's just reactionary.
I can only speak for Sweden but I do often hear it from players coming here that the ability to move up to a big league is a major part of the appeal. The swedish league pay pretty similar wages to MLS from what I've gathered, so I think that's probably more of a Denmark thing to be able to really increase your salary. I had a quick look through the lists of transfer from Sweden to the top 10 european leagues this year: two players to Germany, three to Italy, three to Holland and two to Turkey. I'm a Djurgården supporter and it used to always be a running joke with us each silly season that Sheringham was on his way back to the club Norway still play a very british style, I don't think Denmark ever did and Sweden are currently moving away from it.
Giving my own perspective on this. For the past 5-6 seasons, every Belgian talent has been hyped to the highest of highs. I've heard absurd stories that link 18-year olds who have one half season of Jupiler League experience to clubs like Barça, Real, Man U. The reality is that after half a decade of hype, exactly five players have actually made it to top four teams in the top five leagues: Kompany at Man City Vermaelen at Arsenal Hazard at Lille Van Buyten at Bayern Lukaku at Chelsea And the last two are merely fringe players at those clubs at the moment.
Onyewu at AC Milan Granted, he flamed out there (partly due to injury)---is your standard "transferred to a top four in top five" or "stayed on the roster at a top four in top five"? Seems more like the former given your comment about fringe players.
The bigger point that I tried to make is that for every 100 transfer rumors, there is perhaps one deal that actually comes to fruition. Steven Defour alone had been linked to Man U, Arsenal, Everton, Liverpool, Real Madrid, ... before eventually ending up at... Porto.
I'm not sure that's such a big laugh as you suggest. Did those big teams buy a player at his position this summer? Is there something especially shameful about choosing Porto? Plus, Everton has no money and the last thing they need is a two-way central midfielder. Just saying it's not always as simple as a guy is only as good as the place he ended up.
So, Greg Seltzer has been doing the leg work to try to cut through the tabloid idiocy and see which clubs, if any, actually have some interest in Shea. http://www.noshortcorners.com/ The take aways:
I don't know how in context those take aways are. It also doesn't mention the extra clubs he has not decoded. I suggest everyone give Seltzer a hit. He deserves it.
I think at least half of those clubs would be hard pressed to afford what MLS is gonna ask for Shea. That being said, I would love to see Shea at Werder Bremen (sadly I doubt they have the resources to spend a large sum on a player unproven at the Bundesliga level)
I think Shea would do very well at Bremen. Bremen could use a young talent to give a spark to their midfield. Unfortunately, Bremen pride themselves on investing in younger, cheaper (usually no more than 4 to 5 mio) talents that they develop and sell for a ton (Micoud, Diego, Ozil). Given FCD's insistence that they will not sell him the price would likely be too high for Werder.
Didn't Hamburg have some serious financial issues quite recently? Regardless, of that list Hamburg, Bremen and Newcastle would be interesting.
I think you misinterpreted my post. I didn't find it funny because Porto is not a big enough club (it's a terrific club), I found it funny because Porto was one of the few teams he hadn't been linked with.