Foreign Coach or Colombian? Part II

Discussion in 'Colombian National Team' started by pibe10, Aug 27, 2006.

  1. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Nope always called him a bitch since he took the assistant job. If you find me saying something good about him then I owe you a cookie. I wanted him as our NT coach or Osorio or both at the same time. Both lack a couple things. Osorio like Maradona doesn't know what defending means and his teams get ass raped way more than they should but they score piles of goals.

    Leonel only had 1 year as a coach, it was a great year but he should have play'd Copa Lib. Osorio has coached in MLS, England and Colombia. Huge + for him.

    I want a coach who will not take our feds bullshit. BIELSA !!!! I will send them all my money to make it happen tho I lost 10k last week in stock.... I will see if they want to wait for it to go up.
     
  2. Tio Nicci

    Tio Nicci Member+

    Nov 13, 2008
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I would love to have Guus.
     
  3. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    NO se ilusion ni hagan muchas hipotesis...........LO mas seguro es leonel
     
  4. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Tata would be awesome and provide a (much needed) change of perspective for the side. I think he'd do wonders with the talent we have.
     
  5. krass

    krass Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    No puede ser.. Bolillo renunció....

    Que hipocrita eres mi Colombia!
     
  6. lfsr1544

    lfsr1544 Member

    May 9, 2001
    Glen Rock, NJ
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    y por que? Si no hemos respetado como sociedad en el pasado quiere decir que debemos seguir lo mismo para el futuro:cool:

    Me parece MUY noble no que Bolillo renuncio si no que se respeto a las voces que INSISTIERON en su renuncia. Bien por las mujeres y BIEN PARA COLOMBIA...un buen ejemplo. Yo tengo dos ninitas y que un bobo borracho le da por pegarle (por que esa mujer agredida SIEMPRE sera su nina para sus padres)...por favor, ni lo quiero pensar.:mad:
     
  7. padrino187

    padrino187 New Member

    Jan 24, 2007
    Brescia-Italy
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Me gustarìa extranjero que no se deje manocear de la federaciòn!
    Eso nunca va a pasar!

    Menos mal que Colombia empieza a madurar como sociedad!
     
  8. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Tienen como 3 threads hablando de la misma vaina... Unanlos IMHO
     
  9. Visca...

    Visca... Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    ATL
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Hiddink is an awesome coach.

    He's expensive tho.

    My two cents...sigan el proceso con Leonel. A Colombia se le vio muy bien en la Copa America.
     
  10. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    haha losing to Peru..... not killing off a dead Argentina. BEating abunch of little kids and scoring 2 goals against Boliva. That is not a team that will qualify

    We need an attacking minded coach
     
  11. Visca...

    Visca... Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    ATL
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Umm, you have a very attacking minded team. Your forwards just can't finish for shit :p

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvlBiv1sE_A"]‪Argentina VS Colombia Dayro Moreno Horror Miss Copa America (07.07.11)‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]
     
  12. Tio Nicci

    Tio Nicci Member+

    Nov 13, 2008
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  13. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    we are not attacking minded and he plays our guys out of position.

    Dayro is a striker and they put him at RM same with Ramos. Bolillo was a coach who was good in the 90s and never wanted to change anything.

    I want Osorio who I believe lacks good defenders because of money constraits he had with both his MLS teams, as well as Millos and Once Caldas.

    If he can make us attack like he did with Once Caldas + our current defense would be sick
     
  14. lfsr1544

    lfsr1544 Member

    May 9, 2001
    Glen Rock, NJ
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    did you not watch the Copa? We had SO MANY shots on goal and lacked the finishing. The Dayro blooper and the Falcao PK miss were the most obvious but if you compare Bolillo's team to Pinto's Copa/qualifying teams who NEVER attacked you'll see there's a clear difference upfront. Also DMoreno has played as an attacking winger/MF for many many years and for many many teams. He's not a striker. I don't like Bolillo's potential to turn a good team into a great team but his Copa team had pretty much all the names we all wanted and expected. Osorio would be a good alternative although remember winning for club is not the same as winning for the NT.
     
  15. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    vean esta joyita que me acabo de encontrar> despues del nombre de richard paez y su fracaso tatico por planteamiento en killa, hay quienes piensan de esta manera:

    Ahora la mirada de algún directivo de la Federación se dirige a Argentina con el nombre de José Peckerman quien conoce el medio, ha estado en Mundiales (pero juveniles y una vez en mayores-Alemania) pero no ha tenido mayor figuración fuera de su país.
    No faltara quien promocione a Diego Umaña quien acaba de salir campeón en Perú con un cuadro chico. En fin: así se mueve el fútbol de una manera pasional y poco racional, de allí la cantidad de desaciertos de la Federación Colombiana de Fútbol en este ítem.
    No se nos puede olvidar que Jorge Luis Pinto accedió a la Selección mayor cuando alcanzó el título con el Cúcuta Deportivo


    que pensara hanzelmo...que esta tan activo y lleno de opiniones esta noche?
    me encantaria su respetable vision del asunto...
     
  16. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Si ponen a umaña apague y vamonos
     
  17. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Creo que el asunto pasa por algo que dijo ryu79 sobre la manera en que se elije el tecnico: No se busca un tecnico acorde con los objetivos de la federacion (cuales? alguien los conoce?) sino el que esta de moda, el que tiene reputacion, el que era asistente del que se fue... De esta manera de actuar poco planificada salen los resultados: 3 mundiales por fuera y rumbo al cuarto viendolo por TV.

    No se ni para que nos desgastamos analizando las posibilidades si esos tipos manejan todo con las patas y la parte deportiva es lo que menos interesa... Huelga de asistencias hasta que no salgan Bedoya y sus secuaces era lo que deberiamos promover... :mad:
     
  18. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I was thinking they'd go for Pekerman but hasnt he been out of work for like 3 years after failing in like 3-4 Mexican clubs?

    My question is what Colombian coach is actually good enough and isn't taken other than Osorio. Umana sucks and is batshit crazy. Guys said he was going to kill himself like 3x while coaching America de Cali and Junior
     
  19. HijodelAB

    HijodelAB Member

    Aug 21, 2011
    Neiva Yumboersey
    Escribi sobre los "objetivos" aqui:
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24859821&postcount=100

    http://www.eltiempo.com/deportes/fu...l-tecnico-de-la-seleccion-colombia_10912715-4

    Lo mas curioso de todo es que usando esas pautas, ni Leonel, ni Pinto hubieran calificado como DTs de la federacion!

    Claro, cuando se trata de contratar DTs internacionales los requerimientos son altisimos, pero cuando se trata de contratar un DT local, cualquier pelagato de la rosca paisa es perfecto!

    Me acuerdo hace mucho tiempo ya, que cuando yo posteaba sobre la corrupcion de la federacion y del el futbol Colombiano, mas de uno me cayo a golpes, especialmente un cierto ex-moderador :D

    ahora, todo el pais se dio cuenta de la verdad
     
  20. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  21. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Crzd, pues si a eso vamos, Azkargorta y beenhakker no deberian volver a dirigir jamas, ambos fracasaron como tecnicos en equipos de Mexico (Chivas y America) y consiguieron logros increibles en 2 selecciones nacionales que no habian tenido mucho exito (Bolivia, Trinidad y Tobago), son de los mejores tecnicos que he visto tacticamente.

    Pekerman, seria en mi opinion seria una de las mejores opciones (factibles) que hay en estos momentos.

    http://www.antena2.com.co/audios/planeta-futbol/16-12-11/jos-pekerman-ha-tenido-contactos-con-la-federaci-n-de-f-tbol-de-colom
     
  22. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Umaña es buen tecnico... No digo que debe dirigir la seleccion pero es ofensivo y tiene bastante experiencia y no juega con el tipico 10 (cuando llego a Junior no uso a Gio como 10 clasico sino como otro volante mas
     
  23. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I always was against foreign coach, but it seems that we just don't have many good Colombian coach who can take this NT. On the other hand, I really don't want to see all kinds of La Volpe, Roth and other average South American coaches. If they want a foreign coach, they need a "big name".
     
  24. FLFootballFan

    FLFootballFan Member

    Apr 18, 2007
    Club:
    Nacional de Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  25. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    haha man.... best case scenario we get Osorio to be our NT coach. Worst case scenario is Bolillo returns or the job is given to Umana, Comensa gets promoted or some other trash Colombian league coach. I can also see Leonel being given his job back once they notice they can't get a cheaper coach or people keep bitching about him being fired.
     

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